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Old 07-04-07 | 01:58 AM
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Europe Steps Up Probe of New DVD Formats-Antitrust activity

http://online.wsj.com/public/article...f_main_tff_top


Europe Steps Up Probe of New DVD Formats



The European Commission, the European Union's executive body, appears to be particularly interested in the activities of the Blu-ray group because of its dominance in Hollywood, according to people familiar with the situation. The commission is investigating whether improper tactics were used to suppress competition and persuade the studios to back their format.




http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,13...y/article.html
The European Union's antitrust regulator has asked Hollywood studios to turn over information about their negotiations with the developers of high-definition DVD formats, giving them until the end of this week to respond.


Anticompetitive activity can ultimately harm consumers, Lemonnier said. But consumers might prefer to see one format dominate the market, as VHS swept away videotape rival Betamax in an earlier battle over formats. As long as the two compete, and film studios choose one or the other, movie buffs are condemned to buy two players, or be unable to watch some films at home.


Representatives for Blu-ray Disc backer Sony and HD DVD supporter Toshiba Corp., and for the DVD Forum, which promotes the HD DVD format, all declined to comment on the Commission's action, saying that it was a matter for the Hollywood studios alone. The studios could not immediately be reached.
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Can't help but notice the difference in the "since inception" numbers that are shown in that article and the pie chart posted in the Blockbuster thread.



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Old 07-04-07 | 11:22 PM
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Can't help but notice the difference in the "since inception" numbers that are shown in that article and the pie chart posted in the Blockbuster thread.
Nielsen/Video Scan monitor direct sales (Sell-through POS) weekly and to the best of my knowledge maintain the largest UPC-code based sales data. The periodical sales info is submitted and covered on a regular basis by the largest industry tabloids (Billboard being one of many).

Adams Media Research focuses on consulting, market and financial research.

The HD info also ends in April, and all posted sales data since then indicates growing BD numbers.

I would argue that Nielsen/Video Scan's data is a tiny bit more accurate when it comes to exacts numbers.

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Old 07-05-07 | 06:58 AM
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IIRC, Neilsen does not account for online sales, especially Amazon which would greatly hurt the numbers for both formats.

More bias...
Old 07-05-07 | 08:29 AM
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Nielsen/Videoscan does include websites, including Amazon. Grubert can verify.
Old 07-05-07 | 08:37 AM
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Right. Videoscan includes Amazon. I'm not sure what their coverage of other online retailers is like, but I'd imagine Amazon makes up the bulk of online sales. Wal-Mart is the big omission with Videoscan, but I don't think that would skew things away from Blu-ray in this case.
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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

The HD info also ends in April, and all posted sales data since then indicates growing BD numbers.
Not sure what you mean by this exactly, but both charts are through June(well 1 is through mid-June).
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Originally Posted by Maxflier
Not sure what you mean by this exactly
I think he saw the inception date of April 2006 for HD DVD and mistook that as meaning the sales data only went through April 2007.
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Nielsen/Videoscan does include websites, including Amazon. Grubert can verify.
My apologies I must have been thinking about the WalMart omission, but as Adam said, they would hardly alter things away from BD.
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
I think he saw the inception date of April 2006 for HD DVD and mistook that as meaning the sales data only went through April 2007.

That would be it. Thanks, Adam.

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