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Forum: Book Talk
01-08-07, 04:01 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

lol, I give up! :saber:

lol, I give up! :saber:
Forum: Book Talk
01-08-07, 02:39 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

You are watering down the definition of faith to...

You are watering down the definition of faith to the point of near uselessness.....but the main flaw in your logic is that you are assuming there is anything other than naturalistic means.

I can...
Forum: Book Talk
01-05-07, 01:27 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

I am skeptical of a historical Jesus, as least as...

I am skeptical of a historical Jesus, as least as the bible presents. There may have actually been several people called Jesus, and the bible is an amalgam of them all. Then again, there might not...
Forum: Book Talk
01-05-07, 09:43 AM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

The whole problem with trying to determine the...

The whole problem with trying to determine the credibility of witnesses, etc. in the bible is to do so, you have to assume that the bible is literally true.

Most non-religious theologians look at...
Forum: Book Talk
01-04-07, 01:30 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

As far as mobilizing, I disagree. Politics in...

As far as mobilizing, I disagree. Politics in this country are driven by lobbyists. A large selection of the population sharing common beliefs will only achieve so much if there is no one lobbying...
Forum: Book Talk
01-04-07, 01:20 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

Well...the FSM thing was a joke ;) And I...

Well...the FSM thing was a joke ;)

And I like how you just dismiss the notion of differing religious views by suggesting they are all the same - Islam teaches to kill nonbelievers, Christianity...
Forum: Book Talk
01-04-07, 12:10 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

That's the thing man...no one is saying that you...

That's the thing man...no one is saying that you don't have the right to believe in any kind of religion, but making comments that report the bible and the resurrection of Jesus as facts with...
Forum: Book Talk
01-04-07, 11:52 AM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

This rational could be justifying any religion -...

This rational could be justifying any religion - every religion promises answers and followers of Islam/Hindu/Buda/etc. are every bit as confident that they have the right answers as you are.

If...
Forum: Book Talk
01-04-07, 12:11 AM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

I started to answer this, but mgb did it for...

I started to answer this, but mgb did it for me.......but seriously man, you are just tearing your own argument apart by yourself. I don't really need to refute anything. You did it for me. Thanks.
Forum: Book Talk
01-03-07, 01:32 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

That is illogical. Not meeting their criteria was...

That is illogical. Not meeting their criteria was the reason......




Science doesn't know for sure, therefore, Religion must be the answer!!

There are actually theories in M theory about...
Forum: Book Talk
01-03-07, 10:03 AM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

I assumed that you would state something along...

I assumed that you would state something along these lines, which isn't evidence at all.

How much evidence do I need? Well, I would say that the more outrageous a clam, the more evidence I need...
Forum: Book Talk
01-02-07, 09:07 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

I don't believe that those are the only two...

I don't believe that those are the only two options.

As for proof - you just told me there was proof, but didn't say what it is.
Forum: Book Talk
01-02-07, 09:02 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

[QUOTE=kvrdave] Well I wasn't trying to...

[QUOTE=kvrdave]

Well I wasn't trying to start a verse war - just pointing out what the Bible said so I will just say this and leave it be - I was pretty careful to read all of Romans 14 before I...
Forum: Book Talk
01-02-07, 05:14 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

I know that you believe this really happened, but...

I know that you believe this really happened, but you have to at least be honest enough with yourself to acknowledge the difference in a belief and a fact.

The only way we know today that Jesus...
Forum: Book Talk
01-02-07, 05:08 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

I should point out that when I speak of religion,...

I should point out that when I speak of religion, I am referring to organized religion, not the existence of God in some form or another with out any religious implications (Deism). I think there can...
Forum: Book Talk
01-02-07, 04:51 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

Well...I can't attest to what your church teaches...

Well...I can't attest to what your church teaches about faith. But the source of Christianity at least, the Bible, says this about faith:

Doubting is a sin:
Romans 14:23
"But the man who has...
Forum: Book Talk
01-02-07, 04:28 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

OK. So, I will probably regret this, but - What...

OK. So, I will probably regret this, but - What is the overwhelming evidence, particularly about the resurrection
Forum: Book Talk
01-02-07, 12:32 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

Agreed - the major difference between Religious...

Agreed - the major difference between Religious Indoctrination and what we'll just call "learning" is: Religion teaches faith - and blind faith at that. Religious faith is not to be questioned. Faith...
Forum: Book Talk
01-02-07, 12:19 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

I think I'll just respond to your post the same...

I think I'll just respond to your post the same way: Not really :p

If you are actually arguing that Science requires just as much faith as religion - then...wow.

The very concept of believing...
Forum: Book Talk
12-29-06, 09:45 AM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

Pretty much what Groucho said. In Religion, blind...

Pretty much what Groucho said. In Religion, blind faith leads people to completely believe in something that can't be proven. When something in Science can't be proven, it is not accepted as fact -...
Forum: Movie Talk
12-27-06, 10:12 AM
Replies: 172
Views: 12,690
Posted By Bruce

Hrm....You seem to be right, and I seem to be an...

Hrm....You seem to be right, and I seem to be an idiot.

The sad thing is that I learned that in school! I guess I should have been a young Jewish boy too.

Then again, the Thesaurus lists as...
Forum: Book Talk
12-11-06, 04:53 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

...Also, though they are not all strictly about...

...Also, though they are not all strictly about Atheism, most any book by Michael Shermer is worth checking out.
Forum: Book Talk
12-11-06, 04:51 PM
Replies: 357
Views: 16,190
Posted By Bruce

Exactly! I have recently had my own reading...

Exactly!

I have recently had my own reading frenzy. End of Faith, and Letter to a Christian Nation were both extremely well done IMO. I don't understand how anyone could read either one of those...
Forum: Movie Talk
12-11-06, 03:49 PM
Replies: 172
Views: 12,690
Posted By Bruce

Exactly...and I always think of Subs as...

Exactly...and I always think of Subs as transliterations (translating the meaning of the word instead of the exact word itself) rather than literal translations.

If they literally translated any...
Forum: Movie Talk
12-11-06, 03:46 PM
Replies: 190
Views: 16,565
Posted By Bruce

This movie will be GOD!

This movie will be GOD!
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