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Old 10-08-20, 12:12 PM
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Domestic Terrorism plot to kidnap Michigan governor thwarted

I'm very curious at what point undercover agents launch their arrests.

Also, this kind of goes against the whole narrative that Antifa are the real terrorists.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/08/polit...mer/index.html

Washington (CNN)Six men were charged Thursday in an alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, according to a federal criminal complaint.

The six individuals charged in the Western District of Michigan with conspiracy to kidnap are Michigan residents Adam Fox, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, Brandon Caserta, and Delaware resident Barry Croft.
The FBI became aware of the scheme, first reported by The Detroit News, in early 2020 through a social media group of individuals who were discussing the violent overthrow of certain government and law-enforcement components, according to the criminal complaint.

"Through electronic communications, Croft and Fox agreed to unite others in their cause and take violent action against multiple state governments that they believe are violating the US Constitution," including the government of Michigan and Whitmer, according to the complaint.Court documents say the FBI planted an undercover agent to travel to Dublin, Ohio, on June 6 for a meeting with Croft, Fox and about 13 others.
"They discussed different ways of achieving this goal from peaceful endeavors to violent actions ... Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," according to the complaint.
At one point during the meeting, the group discussed increasing their members and Fox reached out to a "Michigan base militia group," according to the complaint.

By June 14, a second confidential informant confirmed that Fox was introduced to the leader of the militia group and they met in Grand Rapids, Michigan. The informant audio recorded conversations with Fox in which he allegedly said he needed "200 men" to storm the Capitol building in Lansing and take hostages, including Whitmer, according to the criminal complaint.

While the Capitol has a formal office for the governor, Whitmer works out of an office across the street.

Fox explained they would try the governor of Michigan for "treason" and he said they would execute the plan before the November 2020 elections, according to the criminal complaint.

On June 20, Fox, Garbin and others met at Fox's business in Grand Rapids where attendees met in the basement to turn over their cell phones that would be placed in a trap door hidden under a rug on the main floor, according to the criminal complaint.

"The attendees discussed plans for assaulting the Michigan State Capitol, countering law enforcement first responders, and using 'Molotov cocktails' to destroy police vehicles. The attendees also discussed plans for an additional meeting during the first weekend of July when they also would conduct firearms and tactical training," according to the criminal complaint.

Whitmer is scheduled to deliver remarks Thursday afternoon. Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, a Republican, strongly condemned the threat against the governor.
"A threat against our governor is a threat against us all," Shirkey said in a statement. "We condemn the actions of the group of individuals that plotted against Governor Whitmer and state government. These people are not patriots. There is no honor in their actions. They are criminals and traitors, and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

Whitmer has been the target of multiple death threats in light of her coronavirus response efforts and decision to issue stay-at-home orders. In April, protesters and militia gathered at the state capitol for a rally, gridlocking the streets to call for Whitmer to lift her stay-at-home order.At one point in the spring, armed protesters entered the state capitol, where it is legal to openly carry firearms, and demanded an end to Michigan's state of emergency.

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tldr
Fox plans violent overthrow of state governments.

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The President encouraged militias to do this kind of shit. His rhetoric is bearing fruit. Rotten, spoiled fruit.
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Send them to Gitmo.
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Probably one of many groups across the country planning to do the same.
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But.. but.. but... BLM! Antifa!
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The President encouraged militias to do this kind of shit. His rhetoric is bearing fruit. Rotten, spoiled fruit.
What if it proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump is behind this then what can the government do if anything because I recently heard that the democrat's are so useless they couldn't get Ted Bundy arrested?
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No one is going to do anything unless the voters vote him out.


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What if it proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump is behind this then what can the government do if anything because I recently heard that the democrat's are so useless they couldn't get Ted Bundy arrested?
Well, Susan Collins might get extremely concerned...
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/mic...-go-communism/

One of the suspects, Adam Fox, had been living at a vacuum shop when it was raided by the FBI on Wednesday. The shop’s owner, Brian Titus, told WOODTV that he knew Fox was a member of a militia but had no idea how extreme his anti-government views had grown. According to Titus, Fox became especially radicalized against wearing a mask because he thought it violated his civil rights.

“He was anti-police, anti-government. He was afraid if he didn’t stand up for the Second Amendment and his rights that the country is going to go communism and socialism,” Titus said.

Titus said he was trying to help Fox, who was homeless, but told him he needed to be out of the shop by November.

“When you go out and help out people this is what happens. [The FBI] weren’t looking at anything I done wrong because I didn’t know about it,” he said.
Anyone surprised this anti-communist patriot was a loser living off of other people?




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Originally Posted by Bandoman View Post
No one is going to do anything unless the voters vote him out.


https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/st...36075343216641
First step is to vote him out. Second step is to wait and see if he leaves.
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/mic...-go-communism/



Anyone surprised this anti-communist patriot was a loser living off of other people?
I'll bet that he lived off Social Security, used Medicaid, and he plotted the coup using a free government phone.
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But don’t forget that Obama and Biden staged the real coup.
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“He was anti-police..."

Back the Blue or you're through, homeless Adam. Haven't you been paying attention?
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The President encouraged militias to do this kind of shit. His rhetoric is bearing fruit. Rotten, spoiled fruit.
GOP enabled and complicit.

There is no going back for the entire party. They deserve to be, and will become, pariahs on a national level.
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Originally Posted by Bandoman View Post
The President encouraged militias to do this kind of shit. His rhetoric is bearing fruit. Rotten, spoiled fruit.
I hope they were going to wear masks during their Presidential-ordered Special Ops mission.
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I hope they were going to wear masks during their Presidential-ordered Special Ops mission.
Trump said to "liberate Michigan". What do you think he meant?
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I'll bet that he lived off Social Security, used Medicaid, and he plotted the coup using a free government phone.
People like that are usually the strongest anti-socialists, buncha crazies. Go figure.
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But.. but.. but... BLM! Antifa!
Actually, the story is becoming more interesting if you read the documents released by the FBI. At least two of the six indicted...were Anarchists, which falls in line with Antifa. They were going to kidnap law enforcement officers too

Last time I checked, Trump is pro-law enforcement...not against? But hey, you guys are the authority around here so lemme know if Trump is now against cops.

Sorry to put a damper on your Pro-Trump Conspiracy and his minions that are just salivating at the chance to kill Liberals.
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Trump said to "liberate Michigan". What do you think he meant?
I guess voting is not part of your vocabulary. Because that's what we did in 2016. And that will happen yet again. If anything, Republicans have had a better turnout than Liberals, so it makes sense we now know at least 2 of the 6 conspirators were Anarchists, and hated police. They also probably did not believe in voting.
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Actually, the story is becoming more interesting if you read the documents released by the FBI. At least two of the six indicted...were Anarchists, which falls in line with Antifa. They were going to kidnap law enforcement officers too

Last time I checked, Trump is pro-law enforcement...not against? But hey, you guys are the authority around here so lemme know if Trump is now against cops.

Sorry to put a damper on your Pro-Trump Conspiracy and his minions that are just salivating at the chance to kill Liberals.
Like everything else, Trump is pro-law enforcement against other people. He certainly attacked the FBI when they looked into his affairs.
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I guess voting is not part of your vocabulary. Because that's what we did in 2016. And that will happen yet again. If anything, Republicans have had a better turnout than Liberals, so it makes sense we now know at least 2 of the 6 conspirators were Anarchists, and hated police. They also probably did not believe in voting.
Is the word "liberate" part of yours?

Dictionary facts - the first two definitions:
  • to set free, as from imprisonment or bondage.
  • to free (a nation or area) from control by a foreign or oppressive government.
Don't see "voting" in there. Maybe Trump should be clearer with his commands to his foot soldiers? "Stand back and stand by" was pretty clear though...
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Trump is pro-law enforcement...
He’s pro-vigilantism (as long as it’s against BLM-types) as evidenced by his public fellating of Kyle Rittenhouse.
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I would say that DVD Polizei is being intellectually dishonest, but I don't think the requisite intellect is there.
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Did someone mention law enforcement?


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