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Old 03-02-20, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Toddarino View Post
My ex wife is heading to Egypt for 10 days next weekend. I think the flight there is through Paris, but the way home is through Italy. Personally Id eat the ticket but shes always been nuts. I totally understand not living in fear of this thing, but getting stuck in a foreign country would be a nightmare.
* Usually * airport transfers don't count if she doesn't leave the airport (or have an Italian immigration stamp in her passport). In this case however, if things get bad enough, the US government may quarantine everyone coming to the US on a flight from Italy. If she is on such a flight, she could get caught in the sweep even if technically she hasn't been to Italy. That hasn't happened in the US but has in other countries. American quarantines involve staying at a military base for two weeks if Covid-19 tests show no infection.
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Originally Posted by Toddarino View Post
My ex wife is heading to Egypt for 10 days next weekend. I think the flight there is through Paris, but the way home is through Italy. Personally Id eat the ticket but shes always been nuts. I totally understand not living in fear of this thing, but getting stuck in a foreign country would be a nightmare.
That's the issue (getting stuck). My son is headed back to Japan tomorrow, but he lives there, so if they end up having quarantines, itll be ok for him.
Old 03-02-20, 10:34 AM
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NYS Governor Andrew Cuomo just had a press conference. He stated that the good news is that "...the normal flu also does children. This virus does not appear to affect children."

WTF is he talking about? This is the first I've heard of this, and it sounds very implausible.

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Old 03-02-20, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by andicus View Post
NYC Mayor De Blasio just had a press conference. He stated that the good news is that "...the normal flu also does children. This virus does not appear to affect children."

WTF is he talking about? This is the first I've heard of this, and it sounds very implausible.
It's an overstatement to say it doesn't affect children, but the data so far indicate children are at less risk and their symptoms are generally milder.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ldren-faq.html
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Sorry, I misattributed the quote to De Blasio. It was, in fact, Governor Cuomo.
Old 03-02-20, 10:48 AM
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In the current study, only one person between 9 and 19 has died of Coronavirus out of 549 cases, or about 1.2% of the total number of cases. Unlike flu that can extremely harmful to even healthy kids, this doesn't seem to effect them anywhere near as bad.

There have also been 416-ish cases in children under 9 with a 0% mortality rate.
Old 03-02-20, 10:49 AM
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Good news. Just gotta let China "go back" to their sweatshops and we'll all have our new gadgets with no delay! Clearly they were ahead of the curve by having small children do day labor.
Old 03-02-20, 10:51 AM
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right?

"Fuckers need to get back to work." -China and every industry they provide for, probably.
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Originally Posted by JasonF View Post
It's an overstatement to say it doesn't affect children, but the data so far indicate children are at less risk and their symptoms are generally milder.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ldren-faq.html
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In the current test study, only one person under 20 has died of Coronavirus out of 549 cases, or about 1.2% of the total number of cases. Unlike flu that can extremely harmful to even healthy kids, this doesn't seem to effect them anywhere near as bad.
I can appreciate these points, however I think it's very irresponsible to state that it doesn't affect children. Even if it's milder for children, they are still able to transmit it to adults. I would say they're probably even more likely to transmit it, as kids (particularly young kids) are not known to take precautions (like handwashing/sanitizing) that responsible adults will take.
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Oh yeah, saying it doesn't effect them is entirely wrong, and they can transfer it all over the place. Acknowledging that it's less severe is where it should stop.
Old 03-02-20, 10:56 AM
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I haven't noticed; anyone post that image that shows how much air pollution over China had plummeted since they've had to shut down areas? It's like the Earth is trying to heal itself by killing us. Sound logic if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by RichC2 View Post
In the current study, only one person between 9 and 19 has died of Coronavirus out of 549 cases, or about 1.2% of the total number of cases. Unlike flu that can extremely harmful to even healthy kids, this doesn't seem to effect them anywhere near as bad.

There have also been 416-ish cases in children under 9 with a 0% mortality rate.
The lower mortality rate is also true of younger people with no underlying respiratory illness or weakened immune system. Just don't be old or sick, or this virus will kill you
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The lower mortality rate is also true of younger people with no underlying respiratory illness or weakened immune system. Just don't be old or sick, or this virus will kill you
Hell, you could probably correlate it to just not being sick, which probably plays a huge role in the 80+ year olds succumbing to it.

They were saying it affected men more than women in Wuhan, and then threw out the fact that 50% of their men are relatively heavy smokers vs. 2% of women. I imagine the morning coughing routine spread half of it.
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I haven't noticed; anyone post that image that shows how much air pollution over China had plummeted since they've had to shut down areas? It's like the Earth is trying to heal itself by killing us. Sound logic if you ask me.
Not posted yet. I saw it in this article: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51691967

Below is a map of nitrous oxide concentration (NOx is an industrial and car pollutant).




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Hell, you could probably correlate it to just not being sick, which probably plays a huge role in the 80+ year olds succumbing to it.

They were saying it affected men more than women in Wuhan, and then threw out the fact that 50% of their men are relatively heavy smokers vs. 2% of women. I imagine the morning coughing routine spread half of it.
Yes we already have a Covid-19 cure: No smoking, youth pill (and warm weather).
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Hah yeah, I can see that going well, "Be youthful and healthy, don't smoke, avoid smog, eat a healthy diet, lose extra weight and wash your hands. Simple! If you have an underlying condition, cure it!"
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^ Nobel Medicine Prize to you!
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I haven't noticed; anyone post that image that shows how much air pollution over China had plummeted since they've had to shut down areas? It's like the Earth is trying to heal itself by killing us. Sound logic if you ask me.
Yeah, except corona virus was probably made in a lab by some evil fuckin bat soup eater.
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Wait, it's spreading in the US?
But just last week our president said it was under control...


That would mean either he was lying or doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about (pick one, or both).
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So of course they have to start covering up stats - they need the stock market to rebound, dammit!


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Originally Posted by slop101 View Post
Wait, it's spreading in the US?
But just last week our president said it was under control...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...58127740174339

That would mean either he was lying or doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about (pick one, or both).
Yeah, Im pretty sure he said wed be down to zero cases soon.
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So of course they have to start covering up stats - they need the stock market to rebound, dammit!
I'll hold judgment until I know more. Until recently, the CDC was doing all the Covid-19 tests themselves so it was easy for them to know how many tests they ran. They expanded to 12 sites last week and are pushing for more. It may take them a while to coordinate the test counts and publish. I wouldn't automatically assume they are hiding data. CDC folks are health professionals and I hope they don't get sucked into a political game.
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I'll hold judgment until I know more. Until recently, the CDC was doing all the Covid-19 tests themselves so it was easy for them to know how many tests they ran. They expanded to 12 sites last week and are pushing for more. It may take them a while to coordinate the test counts and publish. I wouldn't automatically assume they are hiding data. CDC folks are health professionals and I hope they don't get sucked into a political game.
I would have said the same about NOAA before Sharpie-gate.
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I would have said the same about NOAA before Sharpie-gate.
[susancollins]But Trump learned from that and won't do it again[/susancollins]

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