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Has Trump done ANY good?

Old 09-01-19, 10:02 AM
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Has Trump done ANY good?

Not starting this thread to kick off a wave of negativity but, actually, and honestly, the exact opposite. I admit, I don't follow politics (in my country, Canada, or others) that much but I know more about this President then any other. Mainly, that stems from negativity in the media, my friend's social feeds and, well, the forum here which I now check every day.

But, my honest question to those who don't support the man or those who do, has Donald Trump as President done anything helpful or good thus far?
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Re: Has Trump done ANY good?

Yes, for the rich, racists, and white people.
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Old 09-01-19, 10:11 AM
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Yes, for the rich, racists, and white people.
Ok, because I'm seriously trying to focus on positive impact, I'm only going to focus on the "rich" aspect, here. What has he done to help them?
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Passed a big ass tax break for the rich, and not outright condemning racists. So many things to choose from.
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Re: Has Trump done ANY good?

Well, he flipped the house, that's pretty good.
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Re: Has Trump done ANY good?

If you value profits over pretty much any other factor, he's done a good job.
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Re: Has Trump done ANY good?

So a tax break.

And nothing else specific?
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So a tax break.

And nothing else specific?
So far, that's what I'm getting. And the house flip.
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Re: Has Trump done ANY good?

He signed a EO to ban bump stocks.
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Re: Has Trump done ANY good?

He has shown that anyone, no matter how incompetent, can make it to the top.
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He has left porn alone. That's a negative, but it's unusual for a Republican.

The DOJ under Nixon arrested Harry Reems because he appeared in Deep Throat.
The DOJ under Reagan went after Playboy, Penthouse, and Playgirl. I was working at B Dalton at the time, and the company pulled those magazines from the shelves. The feds backed off after public outcry.
The DOJ under George W Bush closed online porn sites using anti-terrorism statues. They arrested porn video makers, but gave up after being unable to get a conviction in the most conservative districts in the country.
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He has left porn alone. That's a negative, but it's unusual for a Republican.
From wiki:
Trump signed a pledge in July 2016 that he would work to combat both legal pornography and illegal pornography, such as child pornography. In the pledge, put forth by the anti-pornography group Enough Is Enough, Trump promised to "give serious consideration to appointing a Presidential Commission to examine the harmful public health impact of Internet pornography on youth, families and the American culture and the prevention of the sexual exploitation of children in the digital age."
And he did sign:
This week, President Trump signed into law a set of controversial bills intended to make it easier to cut down on illegal sex trafficking online. Both bills — the House bill known as FOSTA, the Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act, and the Senate bill, SESTA, the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act — have been hailed by advocates as a victory for sex trafficking victims.
Which actually HAS had a pretty negative effect on a lot of porn sites.
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Old 09-01-19, 11:24 AM
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Trump has beta-tested the U.S. Constitution by showing all the loopholes and weaknesses residing in the over 200 year old document--by his ability to get away with every criminal act he's committed.
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Trump signed the Criminal Justice Reform bill (one aspect of the bill is eliminating mandatory minimums for drug possession crimes). I credited him for this when he did it.
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^ (What VinVega said)


He did get through some reform of the criminal justice system (known as the First Step Act). It was done with bipartisan support but it was done under his administration.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...b05_story.html

The First Step Act is one of the signature pieces of legislation passed with bipartisan support during the Trump administration. It shortens sentences for some inmates — partly through a change in the credit they are given for good behavior — and increases job training and other programs. It also requires the new risk assessment system, which officials said Friday will allow inmates to complete in-prison programs and, for some, receive “earned time” credits to get out earlier.
He is also trying to rein in China. I don't agree with how he does it, but it has to be done.

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He is also trying to reign in China. I don't agree with how he does it, but it has to be done.
Agreed on that one as well. China does not play by international norms of business. Their economy is run like the mafia. I don't think the tariffs are going to work, but most other administrations were running things on a "business as usual" approach when dealing with China.
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He’s at least started a conversation on the opioid crisis in this country. I’m not sure he’s actually done anything to help yet but baby steps, I guess.
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Agreed on that one as well. China does not play by international norms of business. Their economy is run like the mafia. I don't think the tariffs are going to work, but most other administrations were running things on a "business as usual" approach when dealing with China.
The economic side is getting a lot of attention in the US, but I also worry about what they are doing in Hong Kong. What happened yesterday was disgusting. Part of it was in this video, and there is a lot more repression going on.


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Re: Has Trump done ANY good?

I always thought that being President was the toughest job in the world and I would never want it, but after Trump, I now feel it can be a pretty easy job and I may apply.
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Oh, and there was that one time he picked up a Marine’s hat that blew off next to Marine One that time.

All my Trump supporting friends plastered that all over Facebook questioning why the media wasn’t covering it. As if it was some sort of “gotcha” to bias news sources.
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Trump has beta-tested the U.S. Constitution by showing all the loopholes and weaknesses residing in the over 200 year old document--by his ability to get away with every criminal act he's committed.

The first one I can think of is how he "divested" from his businesses. Shit, he's still raking it in. Oh, but his defenders will say that he donates his president salary to charity. Riiiiiiight. His republican nitwits that run congress went mute all of a sudden.
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He's done wonders for the legacy of George W. Bush.
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He's done wonders for the legacy of George W. Bush.
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Re: Has Trump done ANY good?

Originally Posted by VinVega View Post
Trump signed the Criminal Justice Reform bill (one aspect of the bill is eliminating mandatory minimums for drug possession crimes). I credited him for this when he did it.
Before I give him credit, I'd like to know why the bill wasn't passed before... what changed politically to allow this to happen and is there anything in the bill that is detrimental? ie. eliminating mandatory minimums is a positive, what were the negatives?


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Trump has beta-tested the U.S. Constitution by showing all the loopholes and weaknesses residing in the over 200 year old document--by his ability to get away with every criminal act he's committed.

I agree. I think this is the greatest and only good that he has done.
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Re: Has Trump done ANY good?

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He signed a EO to ban bump stocks.
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Trump signed the Criminal Justice Reform bill (one aspect of the bill is eliminating mandatory minimums for drug possession crimes). I credited him for this when he did it.
These were the two things I was going to mention.
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