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Old 09-13-19, 11:40 AM
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Correction: 6 people died from black market THC vape cartridges from China that contained vitamin E acetate. Banning flavoring in nicotine vape products is not even within the fucking vicinity of addressing the actual problem.

As for the opioid epidemic, we have a solution to this, itís called kratom, but the government would rather ban it than offer it as a pill alternative.

Politicians are NOT working for the people. They only care about lining their pockets from places like the NRA, Big Tobacco, and Big Pharma.
I know the deaths brought attention to the subject but I thought the flavored vaping thing was more to protect kids who would be tempted by the flavors (not sure if they're advertised to)?
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I know the deaths brought attention to the subject but I thought the flavored vaping thing was more to protect kids who would be tempted by the flavors (not sure if they're advertised to)?
Yeah, it's really 2 different subjects. The gov of Michigan actually announced they were going to ban flavored vapes in their state a week or 2 before these deaths happened. I think this problem just makes it easier to convince people that it's the right idea (because people are kinda dumb).
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Old 09-17-19, 09:46 PM
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To piggyback on trump pressuring the Fed, have you seen the overnight?

Considering we are about to replace monetary policy with political theory, things are going to fundamentally get much worse, but will be papered over for a few years.
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Old 10-03-19, 01:52 AM
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Has Trump done ANY good?
He has a lot of previously untouchable bad people thinking about taking themselves out.

I wouldn't want them to, of course - I want to see them live with the consequences they have coming.

But it's definitely good. Trump is the man.
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He has a lot of previously untouchable bad people thinking about taking themselves out.

I wouldn't want them to, of course - I want to see them live with the consequences they have coming.
Explain who these 'untouchable bad people' are. Use sources.
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Explain who these 'untouchable bad people' are. Use sources.
Hahahahaha no way he has an answer to this. Can't name a single person with ANY factual basis.
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Old 10-03-19, 08:06 AM
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But it's definitely good. Trump is the man.
Trump fucked a porn star while his wife was home with their newborn and then paid her off to keep quiet about it.

Interesting person youíve chosen to admire.
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Old 10-03-19, 09:20 AM
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Please stop quoting this troll
I lose half of my remaining brain cells every time I see the BS
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Old 10-03-19, 04:26 PM
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In all seriousness, as alluded to by Why So Blu?, he's decidedly not a neocon or war-monger, so that's a virtue. Apart from that, he's literally worthless, as (the simulacrum of) a human being and a head-of-state.
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Old 10-04-19, 09:08 PM
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He's shown us all how broken and self serving our political system really has become. He's also shown us that seeds of the past can spring up again no matter how much we think it never would, or could.
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He's shown us all how broken and self serving our political system really has become. He's also shown us that seeds of the past can spring up again no matter how much we think it never would, or could.
To add to this (and someone mentioned it in the Trump thread), he has shown us that our institutions only function when honorable people run those institutions. There are a decent amount of honorable people trying to follow the law, but the level of corruption and enablers is at a level in Washington that our democracy is in real jeopardy now.
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Trump fucked a porn star while his wife was home with their newborn and then paid her off to keep quiet about it.

Interesting person youíve chosen to admire.
Sources on that or you relying on a porn star who can't pay her bills.
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Sources on that or you relying on a porn star who can't pay her bills.
Youíre relying on a President who canít pay his
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Old 10-05-19, 01:13 PM
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In all seriousness, as alluded to by Why So Blu?, he's decidedly not a neocon or war-monger, so that's a virtue.
I'm not sure what you mean by "neocon" or "war-monger," but by pretty much any measure, Trump has escalated our overseas military presence compared to Obama. He's certainly done more drone strikes, and he increased the troop cap in Afghanistan (taking it from 8,400 to 14,000).
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Trump fucked a porn star while his wife was home with their newborn and then paid her off to keep quiet about it.

Interesting person youíve chosen to admire.
Donald Trump is an exceptional man with exceptional desires and appetites.

The little people have no right to judge him.

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Old 10-05-19, 11:39 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by "neocon" or "war-monger," but by pretty much any measure, Trump has escalated our overseas military presence compared to Obama. He's certainly done more drone strikes, and he increased the troop cap in Afghanistan (taking it from 8,400 to 14,000).
By "neocon" and "war-monger" I mean a Straussian interventionist of the species we saw so many of during the Bush years. Were Bush Jr. and his cronies in power today, under current conditions, which is admittedly an outlandish scenario to envision given what Dump and his peerless idiocy have wrought, you would probably be at war with Russia, Iran, and North Korea.
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Old 10-06-19, 01:31 AM
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By "neocon" and "war-monger" I mean a Straussian interventionist of the species we saw so many of during the Bush years. Were Bush Jr. and his cronies in power today, under current conditions, which is admittedly an outlandish scenario to envision given what Dump and his peerless idiocy have wrought, you would probably be at war with Russia, Iran, and North Korea.
Doubtful. Iran and North Korea gave ample provocation during the Bush administration, while a war with Russia is extremely unlikely to happen given the size and scope of such a war. I don't like the Bush-Cheney foreign policy at all, but they had reasons for doing what they did in Afghanistan and Iraq that don't automatically mean war with any of the countries you named.

Second, leaving aside the comparison with Bush, war with any of those countries would be cataclysmic for a variety of reasons in a way that Iraq and Afghanistan weren't, and if Trump isn't smart enough to recognize that (he likely isn't), he's surrounded by people who are. Meanwhile, he deploys drone strikes in Afghanistan, Yemen, and elsewhere at record-breaking levels. Don't let him off the hook with a simplistic analysis that says "at least he didn't invade Iraq," because that's missing the forest for the trees.
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Old 10-07-19, 05:59 AM
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Doubtful. Iran and North Korea gave ample provocation during the Bush administration, while a war with Russia is extremely unlikely to happen given the size and scope of such a war.
You're right, a war with Russia would mean M.A.D., as it did during the long years of the Cold War, and both sides have little appetite for that ultimate terminus, but if Bush's puppeteers were plopped down into the surreally compromising circumstances Dump has created after 2 1/2 years, with the U.S. having become a laughingstock (even more so than under Bush), victim of rampant election tampering, and the president as Pukin's obedient puppy, something would be done. Not war perhaps, but harsh language, stern diplomacy, and enough internal hand-wringing to actuate measurable temblors.
Also, Weasel Jong-un wasn't in power during the Bush years, and North Korea's provocation and nuclear threats have risen dramatically since his installation.
Bush-holdover Bolton had a hard-on to attack Iran, but Dump jettisoned him when he became too insistent.
I don't like the Bush-Cheney foreign policy at all, but they had reasons for doing what they did in Afghanistan and Iraq that don't automatically mean war with any of the countries you named.
Not legitimate reasons. Neither country was involved in 9/11, though the Taliban harboured al-Qaeda ex post facto. Saudi Arabia, a dubious longtime ally, oil-supplier (and terrorist-supplier), and dismemberer of censurious journos, remains grinningly unscathed.
Don't let him off the hook with a simplistic analysis that says "at least he didn't invade Iraq," because that's missing the forest for the trees.
Dump is an unmitigated moron and piece of human trash, but most would agree that he is loath to get involved in wars, as he himself has said many times. My only point was that he could have bumbled and twittered himself into a couple-dozen international armed conflicts by now. I was grasping for a compliment, any compliment.
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Dump is an unmitigated moron and piece of human trash, but most would agree that he is loath to get involved in wars, as he himself has said many times.
Without going tit-for-tat on your post (for example, Kim Jong-Il did the first nuclear tests during Bush's tenure; if that's not provocation for a "warmonger", I don't know what is) the above sentence is so wrong. What evidence is there that he's loath to get involved in wars? The unprecedented level of drone strikes? The increased troop deployments in Afghanistan? The constant saber-rattling? The veto of the resolution to withdraw the U.S. from involvement in Yemen? Literally all you're pointing to is "He hasn't started a war with Russia (which you agree would be MAD), North Korea (also MAD, both due to North Korea's capability to wipe out Seoul and damage Japan, as well as due to China's strategic influence in the area), or Iran (which would almost certainly trigger a Russian response and lead to something about as close to MAD as you can get without actual MAD)." That's not a reason to praise him any more than the fact that he hasn't actually shot someone on 5th Avenue means he's praiseworthy.

And so here's my point: Trump most certainly is a warmonger, and praising him for not being one, even in the backhanded way you just did, is a mistake.
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He just left the Kurds to fend for themselves against Turkey, so...
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Youíre relying on a President who canít pay his
"Youíre relying on a President who wonít pay his (and will even repeatedly file for bankruptcy to get away with it)."

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I wonder if many people think the changes made to the sentencing structure - the allowing of non-violent drug offenders to be released (even if they's been sentenced to life on the three strike bullshit) - is any good.

Many African-Americans think it is, and I agree with them. There were way too many people doing unjust hitches.
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I wonder if many people think the changes made to the sentencing structure - the allowing of non-violent drug offenders to be released (even if they's been sentenced to life on the three strike bullshit) - is any good.

Many African-Americans think it is, and I agree with them. There were way too many people doing unjust hitches.
Clearly you haven't even read this thread. That's been mentioned a number of times, along with banning bump stocks, as good things Trump has done. Just because you are one-sided and blind to reality doesn't mean the rest of us are.
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He's inspired a lot of humor. EDITED TO ADD: this was written by Josh Robertson. Thanks Nick!

*******
Trump: Elizabeth Warren has too many giraffes.

Press: Sir, Elizabeth Warren doesn't have any giraffes.

Trump: I'm just saying there's a giraffe problem. There is a big giraffe problem. [cough] Elizabeth Warren.

Press: It seems like you're trying to tarnish a political opponent with a made-up problem.

Trump: No, I am against people having too many giraffes. It's all about giraffes, and this is widespread. There are so many examples of this. You don't think people should have a bunch of giraffes in their house, do you? What kind of person thinks that is ok?

Press: That's not happening.

Trump: So many examples. Why, here's an example, one of so many, but just off the top of my head -- look at Elizabeth Warren, who has too many giraffes.

Press: Sir, Elizabeth Warren has no giraffes.

Trump: She stole them from the zoo, you know.

Press: Sir, she doesn't have any giraffes. The zookeeper says there are no giraffes missing.

Trump: That zookeeper is corrupt. I fired that zookeeper. This is the sort of thing I am talking about. So widespread. Such a problem. The zookeeper, Elizabeth Warren. It looks bad. Really bad. It doesn't look good!

Press: What

Trump: Did you hear about her rhinoceros? Or I should say rhinoceroses, rhinoceri. I am hearing that she has too many of those too. In her house. This is just lawlessness. On such a scale. People would be -- they would be shocked if they knew.

Press: Sir, this is not making any sense.

Trump: People say she does. I mean, we knew about the giraffes. That's a well-established fact by now, it's old news by now and everyone is very concerned about it. It's a fact to me and to people from which I am hearing. I mean, she just walks out of the zoo with who knows how many rhinoceroses. Right out the front door! And we don't even know how many rhinos. It's really so shameless.

Press: Sir, this didn't happen.

Trump: Right there in broad daylight, and then she gave the middle finger to a little girl who was crying. Yes, remember that? It was in the newspapers, it was all over the news but nobody said anything. Clearly this is something we need to investigate.

Press: Sir--

* * *

Pence: There are legitimate questions that ought to be asked. Not only the fact that she has too many giraffes but also the fact of the rhinoceroses. The American people really deserve some answers.

Press: But the story is not true. None of it is true.

Pence: Well we just won't know until we investigate this. This is a serious ethical issue and we just can't wave it off with a "this isn't true." That's really unfair to the American people because what if it's true even if it doesn't appear to be?

Press: But there are no grounds for an investigation.

Pence: The president is right. Whatever he said, it was right.

* * *

Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, Eric and Don Jr. are out walking their giraffes on Fifth Avenue in New York. They are giant, magnificent giraffes.

Eric [petting giraffe]: Good doggy.

* * *

Trump: Clearly this is something we need to investigate. Everybody wants this investigated. I called Petco about it. Here is the transcript.

Press [reads transcript]: Sir, this is you threatening to kill the manager of Petco if he can't supply a photograph of a giraffe in Elizabeth Warren's living room.

Trump: There was nothing improper about that call. Just read the transcript.

Press [reading]: You said "I will come to Petco and kill you with a knife if you do not do what I say."

Trump: See? Completely exonerating.

Press: It says "I will stab you to death and then burn your crummy store to the ground."

Trump: Why are you making a big deal about that? It's nothing. Just a friendly call, just a couple of guys talking.

* * *

Giuliani: There is giraffe poop all over Elizabeth Warren's lawn. I read about it in an e-mail and I found the same information on the internet. Here it is in a jpeg with Impact font.

Press: Sir, that is your poop. You pooped on Elizabeth Warren's lawn.

Giuliani: Yes I did. Of course I did. That's my job. I was hired to do that.

Press: Giraffe poop would be much larger than that, which is a human's poop.

Giuliani: Not necessarily. Earlier today I printed out some very true information from a website and I gave it to the police, the animal police. Well I should say the *acting* animal police. I think that once this very true information is known you will have a very different story.

Press: Sir, didn't you just say it was your poop?

Giuliani: I never said that.

* * *

Press: Mr. President, it appears you fired the zookeeper because she would not put giraffes into Elizabeth Warren's house.

Trump: The giraffes were there. I fired the zookeeper because she was bad, rotten. Really not good.

Press: We have a picture you drew of a giraffe inside a house, see the giraffe's head and neck are sticking out of a window. Underneath the picture, it says in your handwriting "like this." You sent this picture to the zookeeper.

Trump: I don't recall that. I don't think I did. I would never draw a giraffe, Democrats are the ones who draw giraffes. That zookeeper was trouble.

Press: She was voted Zookeeper of the Year for the previous six years. She is famous for her ability to prevent giraffe theft. You promoted her twice.

Trump: Are you even listening to me? It's like you're not even listening. She was trouble. TRUH. BULL. She was a mess, this lady. Oh she was so bad.

* * *

Trump: Elizabeth Warren claims she has no giraffes, I think this picture will blow that phony story out of the water. I think you will agree with me when I call her "Lyin' Liz."

Press: Sir, this is a photograph of Elizabeth Warren and her college roommate at a Halloween party in 1969. They are in costume.

Trump: That is Elizabeth Warren with a giraffe. Good old Lyin' Liz. Hold on, let me play this Nickelback song so you'll understand.

Press [shouting over Nickelback song]: That is Elizabeth Warren's college roommate in a costume, not a giraffe.

Trump: I think what the American people need to know is that Elizabeth Warren claims she has no giraffes, she has never met any giraffes, and yet her college roommate was a giraffe as shown by this picture. Lyin' Liz.

Press: Sir, I'm looking at this a bit closer and I believe her roommate is dressed as Tigger from Winnie the Pooh, not a giraffe.

Trump: Lyin' Liz. Lyin' Liz and the Giraffe Gaffe is what they say, that's what they are saying. Lock her up. In the zoo with her giraffe friends. Make her eat giraffe feed. Force it down her throat. I think that's what the American people want. After what she has done to this country, frankly it is what she deserves. I have this Breitbart poll...

* * *

Next month, 47% of the American public, to the other 53%, over Thanksgiving dinner: How could you vote for a lying giraffe and rhinoceros thief like Elizabeth Warren? She belongs in a cage. You are insane.

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@ "good doggy."

The rest would be a lot funnier if it wasn't so accurate.
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