Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
07-17-18, 06:19 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Originally Posted by davidh777
All he's doing is slightly shading in favor of the FBI rather than against them. The rest of the bullshit is still the same. It hardly seems worth correcting.
He also said "I accept our intelligence community's conclusion that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place," then added "It could be other people also. A lot of people out there." Which sounds like his typical ad-libbed back-off because he's afraid of actually making a definitive statement.
He also said "I accept our intelligence community's conclusion that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place," then added "It could be other people also. A lot of people out there." Which sounds like his typical ad-libbed back-off because he's afraid of actually making a definitive statement.
I'm sure the handlers were thinking "we're almost clear, getting closer, it is looking good, (the Trump adlib) oh shit".
07-17-18, 06:20 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Originally Posted by Noonan
Big man changing his words now that his boss isn't sitting next to him.
07-17-18, 06:22 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Originally Posted by Paul_SD
"By publicly kowtowing to Putin and throwing his own spies under the bus, while spouting tinfoil conspiracy theories about Hillary, Trump effectively ended his presidency in Helsinki yesterday.
The rest is #details -- & up to Bob Mueller."
Donald Trump Tosses Word-Salad, Ends His Presidency in Helsinki
Much more in the op-ed at the link above.
The rest is #details -- & up to Bob Mueller."
Donald Trump Tosses Word-Salad, Ends His Presidency in Helsinki
Much more in the op-ed at the link above.
07-17-18, 06:22 PM
Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Originally Posted by WCChiCubsFan
He obviously adlibbed the bolded part and that must drive his handlers crazy.
I'm sure the handlers were thinking "we're almost clear, getting closer, it is looking good, (the Trump adlib) oh shit".
I'm sure the handlers were thinking "we're almost clear, getting closer, it is looking good, (the Trump adlib) oh shit".
I would, at least.
07-17-18, 06:37 PM
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07-17-18, 06:41 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Wow.
What a liar.
Just wow.
Lies, lies, lies.
Wow.
What a liar.
Just wow.
Lies, lies, lies.
Wow.
07-17-18, 06:49 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Originally Posted by cungar
What percentage of Trump supporters are actually finally thinking they may have hitched their wagon to a trainwreck?
07-17-18, 06:54 PM
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What happens in other cults, like the religious end-of-the-world types when the big event fails to materialize?
Some members peel off and the rest double down.
That's what'll happen with Trump. A slow, steady attrition to a low base of unshakable hardliners.
Some members peel off and the rest double down.
That's what'll happen with Trump. A slow, steady attrition to a low base of unshakable hardliners.
07-17-18, 07:00 PM
Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
And what the fuck was this all about? He actually thinks she chose his visit to review her guards for the first time. How fucking special does he think he is?
CBS News July 17, 2018, 4:15 PM
President Trump claimed Tuesday that during his visit to England, Queen Elizabeth II reviewed her Guard of Honor for the first time in 70 years -- but she's only been queen for 65 years. And as any royal-watcher knows, reviewing the guard is something she's been photographed doing many times over the years.
"We met with the queen, who is absolutely a terrific person, where she reviewed her Honor Guard for the first time in 70 years, they tell me," Mr. Trump said at the White House Tuesday. "We walked in front of the Honor Guard and that was very inspiring to see and be with her. And I think the relationship, I can truly say is a good one. But she was very, very inspiring indeed."
President Trump claimed Tuesday that during his visit to England, Queen Elizabeth II reviewed her Guard of Honor for the first time in 70 years -- but she's only been queen for 65 years. And as any royal-watcher knows, reviewing the guard is something she's been photographed doing many times over the years.
"We met with the queen, who is absolutely a terrific person, where she reviewed her Honor Guard for the first time in 70 years, they tell me," Mr. Trump said at the White House Tuesday. "We walked in front of the Honor Guard and that was very inspiring to see and be with her. And I think the relationship, I can truly say is a good one. But she was very, very inspiring indeed."
07-17-18, 07:02 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Originally Posted by Paff
Just because we're technically "not at war" with Russia does not mean their meddling in the 2016 was not a hostile act against the United States, and that Trump siding with them about it (I still can't believe I've typed those words) does not constitute treason, even if it doesn't fit the according-to-Hoyle definition.
It's not just semantics. Words have meaning. When we devalue the word "treason," it makes the case harder to make if we actually discover those in government commit <em>actual</em> treason.
07-17-18, 07:11 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Originally Posted by cungar
I knew Draven was going to jump on that one first 
I just can't believe anyone could support Trump before this but not after. It's like supporting Ted Bundy after his first and second murders but not his fifth.
07-17-18, 07:19 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Another day. Another embarrassment. "I misspoke" Seriously? How stupid does he think everyone is? I mean really.
Big game trophies are legal now, so, yay?
I'm independent and voted both ways many times and have no problem giving a POTUS credit for something they deserve. Trump has done nothing that deserves any credit. Zilch. Nada. He's somehow managed to fuck up damn near everything he touches.
I agree. Dems need to put up someone with class and dignity.
Of course we had that with Obama and half the country still had a problem with him so what the fuck do we know.
Interesting theory. Seems plausible to me. Of course with Democrats in charge Pence might not get much done anyway which makes this proposal kinda fruitless.
Originally Posted by hdnmickey
I know I for one would love to see a list of things Trump specifically should get credit for and why. If we're supposed to praising him for something it shouldn't be hard to state the specific on why he deserves the credit. And of course let's also be consistant with past Presidents have been credit for when things were done.
I'm independent and voted both ways many times and have no problem giving a POTUS credit for something they deserve. Trump has done nothing that deserves any credit. Zilch. Nada. He's somehow managed to fuck up damn near everything he touches.
Originally Posted by cungar
I predict that the next president will win by running on restoring dignity to the office. When Trump goes down in flames, candidates will not see him as someone to emulate.
I agree. Dems need to put up someone with class and dignity. Of course we had that with Obama and half the country still had a problem with him so what the fuck do we know.
Originally Posted by Paff
Finally, if the Democrats do take back the House and impeachment seems likely, I can totally see some Republicans (possibly in the Senate) agreeing to turn on Trump on the condition the Dems leave Pence alone. I see the Dems taking that as enough of a victory and agreeing to that deal.
07-17-18, 07:25 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Of course we had that with Obama and half the country still had a problem with him so what the fuck do we know.
07-17-18, 07:38 PM
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Yeah, we gotta keep the white in the White House, so no minorities.
07-17-18, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Breakfast with Girls
Sure, it was a hostile act. Look, if he were to funnel state secrets to a foreign government it would be espionage, not treason. Funneling state secrets to a foreign government <em>with whom we're in a declared war</em> is treason. If he were laundering money to ISIS that would be treason. We're at war with ISIS. A US president saying something completely disgraceful in a press conference is not treason—or even criminal. Just disgraceful.
It's not just semantics. Words have meaning. When we devalue the word "treason," it makes the case harder to make if we actually discover those in government commit <em>actual</em> treason.
It's not just semantics. Words have meaning. When we devalue the word "treason," it makes the case harder to make if we actually discover those in government commit <em>actual</em> treason.
I'm gonna keep saying this anytime the subject comes up- I expect the SCOTUS will be involved in definitively clarifying and setting precedent on things that have hitherto been too fantastical to even worry about much less enshrine in the Constitution.
07-17-18, 08:07 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Originally Posted by Breakfast with Girls
Sure, it was a hostile act. Look, if he were to funnel state secrets to a foreign government it would be espionage, not treason. Funneling state secrets to a foreign government <em>with whom we're in a declared war</em> is treason. If he were laundering money to ISIS that would be treason. We're at war with ISIS. A US president saying something completely disgraceful in a press conference is not treason—or even criminal. Just disgraceful.
It's not just semantics. Words have meaning. When we devalue the word "treason," it makes the case harder to make if we actually discover those in government commit <em>actual</em> treason.
It's not just semantics. Words have meaning. When we devalue the word "treason," it makes the case harder to make if we actually discover those in government commit <em>actual</em> treason.
07-17-18, 08:15 PM
Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
I was listening to Mark Levin on the radio and he was discussing this "kerfuffle" with a guest.
McCain apparently said
Mark Levin's guest went into this huge history lesson, that the supposedly the mainstream media ignores, about FDR's relationship with Stalin and how he was giving Stalin all these things. The guest said, McCain's comment was wrong because THAT was THEE most disgraceful performance by a US president with a tyrant. The guest was going on and on about this. "Did you know FDR even called Stalin Uncle Joe!?"
Levin came back with, "So McCain is wrong. Will the mainstream media report that? That McCain is wrong."
I think Levin was also focusing on Hillary's servers/emails. Said that Trump hasn't given away any territory to Russia therefore Trump's words don't translate into actions, etc etc. How the Democrats were against the SDI/Star Wars program, were against Reagan's push against the Soviet Union blah blah blah.
Levin also addressed the obvious upcoming accusation that he and his guest were serving as a distraction. No, Levin said, they're just putting things into context.
So yeah, a whole lot of spin going on from all the usual suspects in right wing media. Those particular characters are hopeless.
Don't forget that you had people like Rudy Guilliani calling Putin a real leader when he was invading countries during Obama's term.
McCain apparently said
Originally Posted by Senator McCain
Today’s press conference in Helsinki was one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory. The damage inflicted by President Trump’s naivete, egotism, false equivalence, and sympathy for autocrats is difficult to calculate. But it is clear that the summit in Helsinki was a tragic mistake.
Levin came back with, "So McCain is wrong. Will the mainstream media report that? That McCain is wrong."
I think Levin was also focusing on Hillary's servers/emails. Said that Trump hasn't given away any territory to Russia therefore Trump's words don't translate into actions, etc etc. How the Democrats were against the SDI/Star Wars program, were against Reagan's push against the Soviet Union blah blah blah.
Levin also addressed the obvious upcoming accusation that he and his guest were serving as a distraction. No, Levin said, they're just putting things into context.
So yeah, a whole lot of spin going on from all the usual suspects in right wing media. Those particular characters are hopeless.
Don't forget that you had people like Rudy Guilliani calling Putin a real leader when he was invading countries during Obama's term.
07-17-18, 08:45 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Originally Posted by cungar
And what the fuck was this all about? He actually thinks she chose his visit to review her guards for the first time. How fucking special does he think he is?
07-17-18, 09:03 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Originally Posted by brayzie
I was listening to Mark Levin on the radio and he was discussing this "kerfuffle" with a guest.
McCain apparently said
Mark Levin's guest went into this huge history lesson, that the supposedly the mainstream media ignores, about FDR's relationship with Stalin and how he was giving Stalin all these things. The guest said, McCain's comment was wrong because THAT was THEE most disgraceful performance by a US president with a tyrant. The guest was going on and on about this. "Did you know FDR even called Stalin Uncle Joe!?"
Levin came back with, "So McCain is wrong. Will the mainstream media report that? That McCain is wrong."
I think Levin was also focusing on Hillary's servers/emails. Said that Trump hasn't given away any territory to Russia therefore Trump's words don't translate into actions, etc etc. How the Democrats were against the SDI/Star Wars program, were against Reagan's push against the Soviet Union blah blah blah.
Levin also addressed the obvious upcoming accusation that he and his guest were serving as a distraction. No, Levin said, they're just putting things into context.
So yeah, a whole lot of spin going on from all the usual suspects in right wing media. Those particular characters are hopeless.
Don't forget that you had people like Rudy Guilliani calling Putin a real leader when he was invading countries during Obama's term.
McCain apparently said
Mark Levin's guest went into this huge history lesson, that the supposedly the mainstream media ignores, about FDR's relationship with Stalin and how he was giving Stalin all these things. The guest said, McCain's comment was wrong because THAT was THEE most disgraceful performance by a US president with a tyrant. The guest was going on and on about this. "Did you know FDR even called Stalin Uncle Joe!?"
Levin came back with, "So McCain is wrong. Will the mainstream media report that? That McCain is wrong."
I think Levin was also focusing on Hillary's servers/emails. Said that Trump hasn't given away any territory to Russia therefore Trump's words don't translate into actions, etc etc. How the Democrats were against the SDI/Star Wars program, were against Reagan's push against the Soviet Union blah blah blah.
Levin also addressed the obvious upcoming accusation that he and his guest were serving as a distraction. No, Levin said, they're just putting things into context.
So yeah, a whole lot of spin going on from all the usual suspects in right wing media. Those particular characters are hopeless.
Don't forget that you had people like Rudy Guilliani calling Putin a real leader when he was invading countries during Obama's term.
07-17-18, 09:28 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Originally Posted by brayzie
Mark Levin's guest went into this huge history lesson, that the supposedly the mainstream media ignores, about FDR's relationship with Stalin and how he was giving Stalin all these things. The guest said, McCain's comment was wrong because THAT was THEE most disgraceful performance by a US president with a tyrant. The guest was going on and on about this. "Did you know FDR even called Stalin Uncle Joe!?"
Levin came back with, "So McCain is wrong. Will the mainstream media report that? That McCain is wrong."
Levin came back with, "So McCain is wrong. Will the mainstream media report that? That McCain is wrong."
07-17-18, 09:38 PM
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Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 2
Apparently Trump authorized the announcement of the indictments last Friday, thinking it would give him a stronger bargaining position against Putin. Assuming that's true, why was he such a feckless lick-spittle in front of him? He's like my daughter who decides she wants to go on the biggest slide and then chickens out once she gets to the top.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ome-pre-summit
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ome-pre-summit
