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Old 10-07-17, 04:32 PM   #1
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The Ultimate sexual harassment and political fallout thread (Harvey Weinstein, etc)

I have moved my original posting here to the political forum due to political implications and the possible fall out.

This is all coming out because of this story from the NY times on Thursday: Harvey Weinstein Paid Off Sexual Harassment Accusers for Decades

Below is Harvey Weinstein official statement:



Harvey Weinstein has ties and history as "a major - and high profile - Democratic donor".

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Gloria Allred throws her own daughter under the bus for defending Weinstein


QUOTE]“Had I been asked by Mr. Weinstein to represent him, I would have declined, because I do not represent individuals accused of sex harassment,” Allred said a statement Thursday released just after a bombshell New York Times story had settled at least eight cases of sexual harassment spanning decades.

“I only represent those who allege that they are victims of sexual harassment,” she added.
Lisa Bloom is offering a he‘s-turned-over-a-new-leaf defense of Weinstein and seemed to forget whose side she was on and admit Weinstein’s conduct represented illegal sexual harassment:

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“This is a real pattern over 30 years. This is like textbook sexual harassment,” Mr. Stephanopoulos said.

“It’s gross, yeah,” Ms. Bloom replied.

“It’s illegal,” Mr. Stephanopoulos said.

“Yes. You know, I agree,” Ms. Bloom said. “See, you have to understand that, yes, I’m here as his adviser. I’m not defending him in any sexual harassment cases — there aren’t any sexual harassment cases. I’m working with a guy who has behaved badly over the years, who is genuinely remorseful, who says, you know, ‘I have caused a lot of pain.’ ”
Harvey Weinstein harassment claims are putting many in a tough spot. Do the beneficiaries of his donations have plans to return the money?

Weinstein has donated generously to Democratic political causes and candidates

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Ms. Bloom has resigned.
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Old 10-07-17, 05:13 PM   #3
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Man can you imagine if someone like this asshole was elected president knowing what we know about him?
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Man can you imagine if someone like this asshole was elected president knowing what we know about him?
No kidding. Weinstein treated women like shit and as soon as Democrats found out, they cut ties with him and donated his political contributions to women's charities. Meanwhile, Republicans sent their serial sexual harasser to the White House.

"Political implications." Keep peddling that Fox News bullshit, mspmms.
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More resignations:

Dirk Ziff Quits Weinstein Company Board Amid Boss’ Abuse Scandal

A Weinstein Company board member has resigned amid the burgeoning abuse scandal involving co-chairman Harvey Weinstein. Sources confirm to Deadline that billionaire publishing heir and investor Dirk Ziff quit the board during a volatile board meeting held in the wake of a scathing New York Times exposé on sexual harassment allegations against TWC’s co-chairman.

Lanny Davis another attorney who was working with Weinstein has resigned.

Davis was part of the legal team Weinstein had assembled as he was preparing to face news reports painting long history of sexual harassment.
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Old 10-07-17, 06:26 PM   #7
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Keep peddling that Fox News bullshit, mspmms.
Just what exactly have I posted here from Fox news?
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Old 10-07-17, 07:56 PM   #8
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Where's the other Weinstein in all of this? His brother. Was it Bob? Did he retire?
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Where's the other Weinstein in all of this? His brother. Was it Bob? Did he retire?
Bob, yeah. He's much lower-profile than Harvey but definitely not retired; Variety reports that he's trying to take the reins of the company. There's no shortage of bad blood between Bob and Harvey, and there's some speculation buzzing around that Bob might've even fed the NYT some of the dirt on his brother.

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Do the beneficiaries of his donations have plans to return the money?
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At least eight Democratic senators have announced that they are donating the sums that Weinstein contributed to their campaigns to charities. Among them is Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). In addition, the Democratic National Committee announced that it would donate more than $30,000 in contributions from Weinstein to groups including Emily’s List, while calling the allegations against him “deeply troubling.”
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That's what I'm reading too. Damn.

I admire the little guys who can keep their studios up and running. They have their place in helping film productions get moving. And those productions are often where you find movies with a unique voice.

Shame it has to be like this.
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The orange shitstain weighs in:

On anniversary of 'Access Hollywood' tape's release, Trump criticizes Harvey Weinstein
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Man can you imagine if someone like this asshole was elected president knowing what we know about him?


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No kidding. Weinstein treated women like shit and as soon as Democrats found out, they cut ties with him and donated his political contributions to women's charities. Meanwhile, Republicans sent their serial sexual harasser to the White House.

"Political implications." Keep peddling that Fox News bullshit, mspmms.


The hypocrisy is staggering. Check out this tweet.

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There's no shortage of bad blood between Bob and Harvey, and there's some speculation buzzing around that Bob might've even fed the NYT some of the dirt on his brother.
It’s Cain and Abel — Hollywood style.



Disgraced movie mogul Harvey Weinstein may have been stabbed in the back by his own brother, who, sources told The Post, has been trying for years to replace his sibling as the sole head of their marquee film studio.
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Weinstein deserves the criticism. But what the hell are Republicans going on about? First, Weinstein is a donor to the Democratic Party. Both parties will take money from almost anyone willing to hand it over. The average American had no idea who Weinstein was until this week. People on this forum may know him because he's a movie producer and we're movie buffs. To everyone else, he was a nobody.

Second, HELLO, TRUMP! Republicans are using guilt by association to attack Democrats over a donor when the leader of the GOP has the following record:

-Serial adulterer/philanderer
-Married multiple times
-Attended parties at Studio 54 and ones hosted by Jeffrey Epstein
-Regularly appeared on the Howard Stern show to talk about his personal experiences with women
-Said that avoiding STDs was "his personal Vietnam"
-Made guest appearances in several Playboy videos
-Got caught on tape talking about how he "moved on" a married woman and grabs/kisses women without consent
-Accused by multiple women of sexual assault
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When I first saw this news I had an “I thought he was gay” moment, then it occurred to me I was thinking of Harvey Firestein.
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Weinstein deserves the criticism. But what the hell are Republicans going on about? First, Weinstein is a donor to the Democratic Party. Both parties will take money from almost anyone willing to hand it over. The average American had no idea who Weinstein was until this week. People on this forum may know him because he's a movie producer and we're movie buffs. To everyone else, he was a nobody.

Second, HELLO, TRUMP! Republicans are using guilt by association to attack Democrats over a donor when the leader of the GOP has the following record:

-Serial adulterer/philanderer
-Married multiple times
-Attended parties at Studio 54 and ones hosted by Jeffrey Epstein
-Regularly appeared on the Howard Stern show to talk about his personal experiences with women
-Said that avoiding STDs was "his personal Vietnam"
-Made guest appearances in several Playboy videos
-Got caught on tape talking about how he "moved on" a married woman and grabs/kisses women without consent
-Accused by multiple women of sexual assault


but emails....
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but emails....


.....but Trump.
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.....but Trump.
Except Trump is the current POTUS (or "CEO of the USA").
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When I first saw this news I had an “I thought he was gay” moment, then it occurred to me I was thinking of Harvey Firestein.
I just looked up Harvey F to see what he was up to.




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Weinstein deserves the criticism. But what the hell are Republicans going on about?
I don't even quite understand why this is political. The guy is a case of a movie producer who did the whole 'casting couch' thing. He's never been in politics. There is no "political fallout".

Are we going to start linking political affiliations and donations for every criminal at the local court house to decide who to criticize? Weird.
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I just looked up Harvey F to see what he was up to.




Somehow, I don't think Harvey Fierstein has been whipping it out in front of women. Just a hunch...
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Are we going to start linking political affiliations and donations for every criminal at the local court house to decide who to criticize? Weird.
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Second, HELLO, TRUMP! Republicans are using guilt by association to attack Democrats over a donor when the leader of the GOP has the following record:

-Serial adulterer/philanderer
-Married multiple times
-Attended parties at Studio 54 and ones hosted by Jeffrey Epstein
-Regularly appeared on the Howard Stern show to talk about his personal experiences with women
-Said that avoiding STDs was "his personal Vietnam"
-Made guest appearances in several Playboy videos
-Got caught on tape talking about how he "moved on" a married woman and grabs/kisses women without consent
-Accused by multiple women of sexual assault


Here's a pic of evangelical leaders praying for Trump (who is possibly the Antichrist ... if I were to believe in that nonsense).

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The info in the NY Times article is new to the general public.

But there are lot of people who knew about this for decades, and remained silent.
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The info in the NY Times article is new to the general public.

But there are lot of people who knew about this for decades, and remained silent.
Feel free to answer these questions in your own head, as you don't have to answer personal questions here:

If you've ever been a victim of sexual harassment or assault, did you speak up immediately and file a formal complaint? If not, why?

If you've ever known someone to be a victim of sexual harassment or assault, and you knew who the perpetrator was, did you speak up immediately and file a formal complaint? If not, why?

Hypothetically, if today a victim of sexual harassment or assault told you, in private, about the event and who did it, but asked you to keep quiet, would you speak up immediately and file a formal complaint? If so, why? What steps would you follow exactly? If not, why?
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