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Old 10-11-17, 02:11 PM   #101
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Journalist says New York Times killed her Harvey Weinstein story in 2004 after pressure from Matt Damon, Russell Crowe
Damon is denying he helped kill the story and claims he had no idea what was going on. No word from Crowe yet.

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I was kinda wondering what he will say about this.
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Old 10-11-17, 02:19 PM   #102
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I still don't understand why him being a democratic donor matters. Sexual assault is wrong but this isn't anywhere near the same as some anti-gay republican being caught with a 15 year old of the same sex or some rabid anti-abortion senator asking his mistress to have an abortion.
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Old 10-11-17, 02:27 PM   #103
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I still don't understand why him being a democratic donor matters.
It's just their way of trying to incriminate the other side by mere association to deflect the fact they elected their own Harvey Weinstein as President.
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Old 10-11-17, 02:42 PM   #104
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I still don't understand why him being a democratic donor matters.
Not merely a donor.
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Not only was [Harvey Weinstein] a major bundler of campaign cash for Obama and Clinton but he's also hosted a series of fundraisers at his various homes around the country over the years. In 2013, he hosted then-President Barack Obama for a fundraiser at his New York City apartment. In 2012, Obama did a fundraiser for his re-election bid at Weinstein's home in Connecticut. During the 2016 campaign, Weinstein held a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign at his New York City apartment and another with fashion mogul Anna Wintour.

In 2013, first lady Michelle Obama praised Weinstein for his involvement in a student film symposium at the White House. "I want to start by thanking Harvey Weinstein for organizing this amazing day," she said. "Harvey. This is possible because of Harvey. He is a wonderful human being, a good friend and just a powerhouse."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politi...ton/index.html



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Old 10-11-17, 02:52 PM   #105
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Affleck seems to be getting a lot of attention now as well.



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Old 10-11-17, 10:16 PM   #106
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An NBC source told The Post that Farrow did not have any accusers on the record while working on the story with them.
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How NBC ‘Killed’ Ronan Farrow’s Weinstein Exposé

Inside and outside NBC, sources are challenging the network’s take on the bombshell it missed. ‘NBC did everything they could to delay it, complicate it, and ultimately [kill] it.’

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Freelance NBC News correspondent Ronan Farrow, whose months-long investigation into reports of Harvey Weinstein’s sexual misconduct was spiked by the network but morphed into a journalistic blockbuster at The New Yorker, initiated a scuffle with the Peacock Network on Tuesday night.

Appearing on MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show—which, like NBC, is a property of NBC Universal and its parent company Comcast—Farrow disputed what sources said was NBC News President Noah Oppenheim’s judgment this past summer that Farrow’s reporting on the movie mogul and the women he allegedly harassed and assaulted wasn’t ready for prime-time.

Addressing a controversy that has been percolating for the past several days in the media ecosystem since The New York Times published its own Weinstein exposé—including questions about whether NBC executives caved to the well-connected Weinstein and his formidable lawyers, Charles Harder, Lisa Bloom, and David Boies—Maddow brought it to a boiling point by telling Farrow: “NBC says that the story wasn’t publishable, that it wasn’t ready to go at the time that you brought it to them.”

Farrow fired back: “I walked into the door at The New Yorker with an explosively reportable piece that should have been public earlier. And immediately, obviously, The New Yorker recognized that. And it is not accurate to say that it was not reportable. In fact, there were multiple determinations that it was reportable at NBC.”

Farrow’s blunt claim highlighted an uncomfortable debate among NBC News insiders, and beyond, concerning the quality and status of his investigative reporting and the reasons why a respected television network would kill a sensational scoop about a famous, influential, politically wired, and undeniably newsworthy figure like Harvey Weinstein.

Rumors about the iconic producer’s alleged misconduct with women have fueled journalistic curiosity for decades. But the 65-year-old Weinstein somehow managed to keep his alleged misdeeds from public exposure—until now.

He was supremely hooked up in the worlds of media, entertainment, and politics. (Former first daughter Malia Obama recently interned at the Weinstein Co.) He had enjoyed a long business relationship with NBC Universal, and Universal Pictures produced both his seven-Oscar Shakespeare in Love in 1998 and 2009’s Inglourious Basterds, for instance, while he had co-produced the hit reality-TV show Project Runway for the NBC-owned Bravo channel.

Was there a "stand down order"?

"Ronan was basically told to stop working on this," according to a source, who called the network's decision "indefensible."
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Old 10-11-17, 10:31 PM   #107
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It sure looks like the district attorney accepted a bribe for not prosecuting Weinstein:
New York City DA Blaming NYPD for Not Prosecuting Harvey Weinstein

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Old 10-12-17, 05:55 AM   #108
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NBC has strong ties to Weinstein. He produces "Project Runway" for them, among other projects.
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Old 10-12-17, 07:19 AM   #109
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Old 10-12-17, 02:08 PM   #110
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Affleck seems to be getting a lot of attention now as well.

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The Canadian TV personality, a singer and owner of Vanessa Media, told The Hollywood Reporter that the interview was an act. "This was for the camera," she said.
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Old 10-12-17, 03:04 PM   #111
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I noticed Melania has been quiet. Even though Hillary has spoken out against Weinstein, I think it looks bad for either one of them to be talking about it since both of their husbands are known womanizers.

If he were just another donor I don't think it would have made much of a difference. But because he was such a huge powerhouse, the inference is that if people knew or suspected anything, they kept quiet or chose not to learn any details for fear of shutting off the money spigot.

I haven't looked through every page so forgive me if these have been posted. But on the radio this morning it was discussed how this was a poorly kept secret.



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Old 10-12-17, 04:08 PM   #112
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I'm not surprised. That's the reactionary thing I was talking about. I don't really like the social media thing - where everyone jumps on something without any real insight or perspective. The whole thing turns into Springer/Maury with drama-laden folks and you don't know what you should be taking seriously.
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Old 10-12-17, 08:19 PM   #113
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Has (President) Donald Trump experienced any political fallout from his 15 sexual assault accusers?




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What followed was a “violent assault,” according to Lost Tycoon. Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants.

“Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified… It is a violent assault,” Hurt writes. “According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.’”
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Old 10-12-17, 09:20 PM   #114
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^ Yeah, but it's much worse to accept donations from a sexual predator than it is to actually be a sexual predator.
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Old 10-12-17, 09:38 PM   #115
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I'm not surprised. That's the reactionary thing I was talking about. I don't really like the social media thing - where everyone jumps on something without any real insight or perspective. The whole thing turns into Springer/Maury with drama-laden folks and you don't know what you should be taking seriously.
I've seen her say that she's flirtatious with him and that she always sits on her lap, but I'm curious what kind of "act" it is, like what is he promoting. It's not funny, it's not a parody, he has slurred speech, it just seems outright creepy. It's not the same as the MTV host because at least this woman seems to permit it, but I'd hesitate to call it an act for the cameras... to what end?
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Old 10-13-17, 05:04 AM   #116
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Old 10-13-17, 07:41 AM   #117
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http://www.tmz.com/2017/10/12/weinst...iring-illegal/

Harvey Weinstein Contract with TWC Allowed for Sexual Harassment

October 12, 2017

Harvey Weinstein may have been fired illegally by The Weinstein Company, a company that wrote a contract that said Weinstein could get sued over and over for sexual harassment and as long as he shelled out money, that was good enough for the Company.

TMZ is privy to Weinstein's 2015 employment contract, which says if he gets sued for sexual harassment or any other "misconduct" that results in a settlement or judgment against TWC, all Weinstein has to do is pay what the company's out, along with a fine, and he's in the clear.

According to the contract, if Weinstein "treated someone improperly in violation of the company's Code of Conduct," he must reimburse TWC for settlements or judgments. Additionally, "You [Weinstein] will pay the company liquidated damages of $250,000 for the first such instance, $500,000 for the second such instance, $750,000 for the third such instance, and $1,000,000 for each additional instance."

The contract says as long as Weinstein pays, it constitutes a "cure" for the misconduct and no further action can be taken. Translation -- Weinstein could be sued over and over and as long as he wrote a check, he keeps his job.

The contract has specific language as to when the Board of Directors can fire Weinstein -- if he's indicted or convicted of a crime, but that doesn't apply here.

There's another provision ... he can be fired for "the perpetuation by you [Weinstein] of a material fraud against the company." The question ... where's the fraud? Lance Maerov, the board member who negotiated Weinstein's 2015 contract, said in an interview -- and we've confirmed -- the Board knew Weinstein had settled prior lawsuits brought by various women, but they "assumed" it was to cover up consensual affairs. The Board's assumption does not constitute fraud on Weinstein's part.

And here's the kicker. Even if Weinstein had committed fraud by not fully informing the Board of Directors, the contract says before he can be fired he has a right to mediation and if that doesn't work, he's entitled to arbitration. He got neither. He was summarily fired, and sources connected with Weinstein tell TMZ he was never given a specific reason.

A source connected with TWC tells TMZ, the company had a right to fire Weinstein if he didn't notify the Board of Directors of settlements. We're told there have been no settlements since the contract was signed, so it would seem this clause does not apply.
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Mira Sorvino adds to the list.




So Harvey was apparently running young female actresses similar to what you'd expect out of the porn industry.

From these stories, seems like he was turned down most of the time. Though I could see this happening with hundreds (or thousands) of actresses we'd never heard of - and never made acting their profession. Just one gross encounter where they fondled Harvey's balls and then it's back to Kansas.
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Mira Sorvino adds to the list.


Wonder if that ever came up when she was dating Tarantino.
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I still don't understand why him being a democratic donor matters. Sexual assault is wrong but this isn't anywhere near the same as some anti-gay republican being caught with a 15 year old of the same sex or some rabid anti-abortion senator asking his mistress to have an abortion.
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What is he - James Bond?

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Harvey Weinstein is probed by London police after being accused of sexual abuse

Scotland Yard is investigating Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein over alleged sexual abuse in the UK

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We can confirm the Metropolitan Police Service was passed an allegation of sexual assault by Merseyside Police on Wednesday, 11 October.

The allegation will be assessed by officers from the Child Abuse and Sexual Offences Command.
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Having two threads about this is annoying and all the info is being posted redundantly. Can we get a merge?
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