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Old 09-10-17, 01:02 AM   #51
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So anyone who believes the Grand Jury's findings that Michael Brown attacked Darren Wilson is a racist. I see how this works.
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Old 09-10-17, 09:55 AM   #52
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They are breaking the law. Period. Why should we give them so many rights (healthcare, telling LE to not report to ICE, voting rights even) when we have actual citizens who are in need. Legal, American citizens come first. That's not a racist belief. That's simply a legal belief. That's simply a belief that says hey, follow the laws like the rest of us. We pull our own load...you can pull yours, too.
This flawed reasoning is at the core of a lot of anti-immigration beliefs.

When more people are getting into an economy, the economy gets proportionally bigger. There are no places where there are "too many" people for everybody to have work and/or have healthcare. When your population grows by 10%, your economy should grow by 10% (and perhaps a bit more because of economies of scale), supply of health care services should grow by 10%, etc.

Only when these immigrants are doing worse than your average citizen, growth will be less. And when these immigrants are doing better than your average citizen, growth will be more. Therefore, the only thing you need to ask when you are looking at it from a utility standpoint is "are these people contributing more on average?"
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I don't think anyone here at DVD Talk is a racist.

But I do think everyone here - including me - is ignorant about certain aspects regarding the subjects of race and racism.
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Old 09-10-17, 05:56 PM   #54
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I don't think anyone here at DVD Talk is a racist.
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I went to an anti-fascist march today in Portland. There was a planned white supremacist rally but the response by the left forced them to move it out of town.

It was a really great gathering of many diverse groups, socialists, antifa, indigenous peoples, immigrants, trans groups, etc. We marched through downtown and didn't get violent, although the police tried to categorize us as such at one point, and a few people were shot with rubber bullets. Overall it was a very nice show of solidarity among the left and I was glad to be a part of it. Fuck those Nazi scum who tried to intimidate us.
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Old 09-10-17, 06:05 PM   #56
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I went to an anti-fascist march today in Portland. There was a planned white supremacist rally but the response by the left forced them to move it out of town.
Did you stay on the sidewalk?
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hell no!
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This flawed reasoning is at the core of a lot of anti-immigration beliefs.

When more people are getting into an economy, the economy gets proportionally bigger. There are no places where there are "too many" people for everybody to have work and/or have healthcare. When your population grows by 10%, your economy should grow by 10% (and perhaps a bit more because of economies of scale), supply of health care services should grow by 10%, etc.

Only when these immigrants are doing worse than your average citizen, growth will be less. And when these immigrants are doing better than your average citizen, growth will be more. Therefore, the only thing you need to ask when you are looking at it from a utility standpoint is "are these people contributing more on average?"
I love this post so much I wish I could marry it.
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Old 09-10-17, 07:49 PM   #59
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I went to an anti-fascist march today in Portland. There was a planned white supremacist rally but the response by the left forced them to move it out of town.

It was a really great gathering of many diverse groups, socialists, antifa, indigenous peoples, immigrants, trans groups, etc. We marched through downtown and didn't get violent, although the police tried to categorize us as such at one point, and a few people were shot with rubber bullets. Overall it was a very nice show of solidarity among the left and I was glad to be a part of it. Fuck those Nazi scum who tried to intimidate us.
You and your terrorist piece of shit friends assaulted the police. That's why they categorized you as violent.
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You and your terrorist piece of shit friends assaulted the police. That's why they categorized you as violent.


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You and your terrorist piece of shit friends assaulted the police. That's why they categorized you as violent.
I think what you mean is "there were also a small number of violent protesters."
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You and your terrorist piece of shit friends assaulted the police. That's why they categorized you as violent.

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You and your terrorist piece of shit friends assaulted the police. That's why they categorized you as violent.
I knew I left someone off the list of white supremacists in my original post.

I was there, you weren't. People weren't assaulting the police.
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Old 09-11-17, 09:43 AM   #66
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Fringe media are furiously trying to absolve the white nationalist who allegedly killed Heather Heyer
Trolls and anonymous message boards are pushing the story that she died from a heart attack and health issues -- and not because she was hit by a car

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...lled-He/217886
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Fringe media are furiously trying to absolve the white nationalist who allegedly killed Heather Heyer
Trolls and anonymous message boards are pushing the story that she died from a heart attack and health issues -- and not because she was hit by a car

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...lled-He/217886
Hey, that's not deplorable at all! How dare we call these people deplorable!
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I knew I left someone off the list of white supremacists in my original post.

I was there, you weren't. People weren't assaulting the police.

Yeah ok. Let me guess...the video I saw was doctored...probably by nazis!


You support a terrorist organization. Happy 9/11.
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"Those terrorists might punch me." LOL. We know at least one person that wouldn't have the balls to be there.
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Yeah ok. Let me guess...the video I saw was doctored...probably by nazis!


You support a terrorist organization. Happy 9/11.
That means a lot coming from someone who had to be prompted multiple times to denounce Nazis. The ones who are actually killing people.
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Fringe media are furiously trying to absolve the white nationalist who allegedly killed Heather Heyer
Trolls and anonymous message boards are pushing the story that she died from a heart attack and health issues -- and not because she was hit by a car
The video of that attack was incredibly disturbing. There were injured people strewn everywhere. It is fortunate that only one person died as a result. Anyone claiming that her death is the result of anything but being hit by that car is irredeemable.
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The video of that attack was incredibly disturbing. There were injured people strewn everywhere. It is fortunate that only one person died as a result. Anyone claiming that her death is the result of anything but being hit by that car is irredeemable.
Political partisanship is disgustingly out of control. I'm surprised right wingers aren't angry for the damage done to the Nazis car by those he struck.
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Old 09-11-17, 12:38 PM   #73
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Shocker, the Portland PD are making claims of aggression as an excuse to attack:



Fucking pigs. I almost never trust the police narrative on a story.
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Fucking pigs. I almost never trust the police narrative on a story.
But, but, Antifa and BLM are the real terrorists.
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But, but, Antifa and BLM are the real terrorists.
We can rest assured that OJ will soon be helping to fight the real terrorists!
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