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Old 08-07-17, 07:25 PM   #51
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Re: National anthem protests top reason NFL viewers tuned out

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Is Colin Kaepernick now just too polarizing for any of the NFL teams?
If he is, that's really fucked up, considering that there are players on teams who have committed actual crimes. Kaepernick did nothing wrong, and I doubt ticket sales are down so much as to warrant this treatment of him.
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Old 08-07-17, 07:35 PM   #52
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Don't underestimate the stupidity of the Trump supporter. I can see them them getting all worked up over Kaepernick kneeling during the National Anthem. Never mind their hero getting eight draft deferments, kneeling is so much worse.
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Old 08-08-17, 06:41 AM   #53
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Don't underestimate the stupidity of the Trump supporter. I can see them them getting all worked up over Kaepernick kneeling during the National Anthem. Never mind their hero getting eight draft deferments, kneeling is so much worse.
Kaepernick is a black guy who doesn't know his place.

Trump knew he was destined for greater things than getting shipped off to 'nam.
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Old 08-08-17, 08:22 AM   #54
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Kaepernick is a black guy who doesn't know his place.
He should have run a pitbull fighting operation instead.
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Old 08-08-17, 08:30 AM   #55
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Re: National anthem protests top reason NFL viewers tuned out

Bought a Kaepernick jersey a few days ago. The Chrumpnecks down here are going to love me.
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Old 08-08-17, 12:19 PM   #56
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Bought a Kaepernick jersey a few days ago.
Just in time.
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Old 08-08-17, 01:25 PM   #57
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When I mentioned on a Cowboys blog that there was no point in playing the National Anthem before "local" sports/events (it's not like we don't know all the teams are American, this isn't the Olympics...), I almost got excommunicated.
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Old 08-08-17, 01:39 PM   #58
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Old 09-02-17, 02:52 PM   #59
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NFL Fans Boycott Football As Colin Kaepernick Goes Unemployed

Now the people on the other side of the issue the ones supporting Kaepernick are speaking out and saying that they dont plan to watch unless some team steps up and offers him a job.

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Old 09-02-17, 03:34 PM   #60
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Holy shit - should I watch or not? SOMEONE NEEDS TO TELL ME!!
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Old 09-02-17, 03:39 PM   #61
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I don't follow the NFL but didn't he have a really bad season?
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Old 09-02-17, 03:46 PM   #62
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I don't follow the NFL but didn't he have a really bad season?
He only won 1 game. They beat the Rams (another awful team) by 1 point.
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I don't follow the NFL but didn't he have a really bad season?
Statistically, he was in the upper half.
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Old 09-02-17, 04:47 PM   #64
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I don't follow the NFL but didn't he have a really bad season?
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Statistically, he was in the upper half.
Yeah, but he took a knee before the game even began.
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Old 09-02-17, 11:19 PM   #65
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Brownies could use him!
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Old 09-03-17, 06:29 AM   #66
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Hey - I was resting.

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Old 09-03-17, 07:49 AM   #67
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Brownies could use him!


Wow...that's kinda racist, don't you think?

Oh...you were talking about...nevermind.

Btw, the person in the photo a few posts back holding the #BlackoutNFL" sign probably wouldn't be satisfied if some team just offered Colin a "job." Several teams expressed interest in Tebow...just not as a QB.
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Old 09-03-17, 08:37 AM   #68
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Protect Nazis!!! Burn Jews yay!

Hey you, you are the most terrible person for taking a knee!!! Deplorable.
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Old 09-03-17, 09:15 AM   #69
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First, did anybody even know Kaepernick is black before this started? Is he black? (Nevermind, I already I know I am a racist for actually believing a person's skin color doesn't matter.)

Second, anybody ever hear of Tim Tebow? Matt Flynn? Nick Foles? Matt Cassel? Any mildly successful Chicago Bears quarterback? I could go on. There are plenty of quarterbacks across the ages that have one or two good seasons because of the team they are with and then are exposed for the mediocre quarterbacks they actually are (usually after another team offers them a lucrative contract). Just because you were a good QB in college doesn't mean you are a good QB in the NFL. Just because you have fleeting success with a playoff caliber team doesn't mean you are THE reason for that success.

There is enough desperation and debauchery in the NFL that a player who can actually win and contribute will find a home.

CK just isn't as good as some people think.

Is there racism in the NFL? Yes, there is racism everywhere. But you cheapen your cause when you hitch your wagon to the wrong horses. Racism isn't the issue here.

For the record, I have no issue with CK or any player refusing to stand for the National Anthem. I have no issue with raising a fist or any of the number of protests. I applaud them for using the platform they have to raise awareness. I just hope (and I believe CK has) that players who do that are actually doing something off the field as well.
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The Cleveland police union is declining to participate in a pregame ceremony before the Steelers-Browns game next Sunday in response to Browns players kneeling during the national anthem at their preseason game against the Giants on Aug. 21.

Police men and women were supposed to hold the American flag during the anthem before the Week 1 game against the Steelers.

While the Browns players are following Colin Kaepernick’s lead in refusing to stand for the anthem in protest, in part, of what’s perceived as unjust treatment of black people by police, the union’s position is that the reasoning behind the protest is unsound.

"It's just ignorant for someone to do that," Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association President Steve Loomis told cleveland.com. "It just defies logic to me. The fact that management was aware of what they planned on doing, that's as offensive as it can get."

The Cleveland police department, meanwhile, made it clear in a statement to the Huffington Post that the union is acting on its own by deciding not to participate.

“The union does not speak for the Division,” public information officer Jennifer Ciaccia said. “The Division of Police is in no way boycotting the Browns, nor denying participation in events with our officers.”

The Browns organization has been supportive of the players’ protests, which also included them standing with locked arms before the preseason game in Chicago last Thursday.

"Professionally, thoughtfully, probably as thoughtfully as any others have," Browns executive VP of football operations Sashi Brown told cleveland.com. "These are guys that mean well. We really push our guys to be active and conscious about the communities they live in and what goes on around them that might be even larger than football. They do that, and we support them. We respect their efforts to use their platform to make some change and express themselves. And I think for all those guys that knelt initially and then last week decided to stand – I won't get into why they made that decision – I think they are going about it in a very responsible and thoughtful way. I'm actually proud of them."

Loomis, though, believes Browns management is complicit in hypocrisy.

"When management allows you to do those things, then that's on them," Loomis said. "It's hypocritical of the Browns management and ownership to want to have an armed forces first-responder day, and have us involved in it when they allow their players to take a knee during the national anthem. That's the very representation of what we stand for. That's why we aren't going to."
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So the police are protesting by refusing to participate in the national anthem ceremony?
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So the police are protesting by refusing to participate in the national anthem ceremony?
They are trying to bring awareness to the worst kind of hate: "blue racism.”
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Blue snowflakes.
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Old 09-03-17, 11:08 PM   #73
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I've got a great idea - stop starting sporting events with everyone chanting about patriotism together. It's just a football game
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It is a tad arbitrary when you think about it.
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First, did anybody even know Kaepernick is black before this started? Is he black? (Nevermind, I already I know I am a racist for actually believing a person's skin color doesn't matter.)

Second, anybody ever hear of Tim Tebow? Matt Flynn? Nick Foles? Matt Cassel? Any mildly successful Chicago Bears quarterback? I could go on. There are plenty of quarterbacks across the ages that have one or two good seasons because of the team they are with and then are exposed for the mediocre quarterbacks they actually are (usually after another team offers them a lucrative contract). Just because you were a good QB in college doesn't mean you are a good QB in the NFL. Just because you have fleeting success with a playoff caliber team doesn't mean you are THE reason for that success.

There is enough desperation and debauchery in the NFL that a player who can actually win and contribute will find a home.

CK just isn't as good as some people think.

Is there racism in the NFL? Yes, there is racism everywhere. But you cheapen your cause when you hitch your wagon to the wrong horses. Racism isn't the issue here.

For the record, I have no issue with CK or any player refusing to stand for the National Anthem. I have no issue with raising a fist or any of the number of protests. I applaud them for using the platform they have to raise awareness. I just hope (and I believe CK has) that players who do that are actually doing something off the field as well.
You can't be this clueless.
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