Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
11-27-16, 11:01 AM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Originally Posted by sracer
I demand a recount of the number of recount threads we have! 
Also, shouldn't this thread add Hillary's name to the Jill Stein thread title. Because this isn't just about Jill Stein wanting a recount.
The Hillary campaign wants it as well and are participating. And if I post something about Hillary's campaign doing something stupid...I'll get a comment..."But you're posting in the Jill Stein thread!"
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11-27-16, 11:03 AM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
There is no chance of a recount succeeding in any of these states.
11-27-16, 11:09 AM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
There is no chance of a recount succeeding in any of these states.
11-27-16, 11:17 AM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler
This recount is like one of those bad movie sequels that nobody asked for.
11-27-16, 12:00 PM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Also, shouldn't this thread add Hillary's name to the Jill Stein thread title. Because this isn't just about Jill Stein wanting a recount.
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11-27-16, 12:19 PM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Originally Posted by brayzie
Now that Hillary Clinton's campaign is involved in the recount started by Jill Stein, do you still feel it's either a sham to divert Trump opposition money and/or an attempt by Russia to destabilize our government?
11-27-16, 12:23 PM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
It would if they included California. I would suspect Hillary would receive a much lesser number of votes.
11-27-16, 12:29 PM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Zero evidence? i'll give you one example right now. There is one case where 80+ ballots were mailed to one apartment residence in California.
And this wasn't even caught by California's strict voter fraud system of ultimate transparency.
Or is this common in California. Where 80-100 people live in one apartment.
If you have a "system" that can't raise a flag of 80 different names living in one single apartment, then you have a problem, and certainly would make me wonder if other residences were being used for fake voting ballots being mailed out and returned. The only reason this case was caught...was because somebody spoke out about it.
And this wasn't even caught by California's strict voter fraud system of ultimate transparency.
Or is this common in California. Where 80-100 people live in one apartment.
If you have a "system" that can't raise a flag of 80 different names living in one single apartment, then you have a problem, and certainly would make me wonder if other residences were being used for fake voting ballots being mailed out and returned. The only reason this case was caught...was because somebody spoke out about it.
11-27-16, 12:38 PM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Zero evidence? i'll give you one example right now. There is one case where 80+ ballots were mailed to one apartment residence in California.
And this wasn't even caught by California's strict voter fraud system of ultimate transparency.
Or is this common in California. Where 80-100 people live in one apartment.
If you have a "system" that can't raise a flag of 80 different names living in one single apartment, then you have a problem, and certainly would make me wonder if other residences were being used for fake voting ballots being mailed out and returned. The only reason this case was caught...was because somebody spoke out about it.
And this wasn't even caught by California's strict voter fraud system of ultimate transparency.
Or is this common in California. Where 80-100 people live in one apartment.
If you have a "system" that can't raise a flag of 80 different names living in one single apartment, then you have a problem, and certainly would make me wonder if other residences were being used for fake voting ballots being mailed out and returned. The only reason this case was caught...was because somebody spoke out about it.
11-27-16, 12:42 PM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
He's referring to this article: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...side-home.html
I won't put stupid past anyone. People never let me down. However, committing voter fraud to "benefit" Democrats in CA is stupid. And making it up as "phony outrage" in CA is stupid too (why not a red state?).
I won't put stupid past anyone. People never let me down. However, committing voter fraud to "benefit" Democrats in CA is stupid. And making it up as "phony outrage" in CA is stupid too (why not a red state?).
11-27-16, 12:46 PM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler
He's referring to this article: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...side-home.html
I won't put stupid past anyone. People never let me down. However, committing voter fraud to "benefit" Democrats in CA is stupid.
I won't put stupid past anyone. People never let me down. However, committing voter fraud to "benefit" Democrats in CA is stupid.
11-27-16, 12:48 PM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Making sure you have enough votes is never a stupid strategy...even if you're ahead.
11-27-16, 02:53 PM
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Re: Beating Dead Horses: The Hillary Clinton Recount Chronicles
Originally Posted by LurkerDan
Hillary did not challenge the results or ask for a recount. I don't see the hypocrisy. Like I said before, I think she really had little choice once Stein requested the recount; it would have made NO sense for her not to join in the effort.
And yes, Stein does have standing to request a recount.
And I have already said that I expect no change and hope they find nothing. I think every single person should hope they find no evidence of fraud.
And yes, Stein does have standing to request a recount.
And I have already said that I expect no change and hope they find nothing. I think every single person should hope they find no evidence of fraud.
Stein repeatedly stated on the campaign trail that if Clinton is elected she would get the US into a nuclear war. Logically, the outcome of the election is something that Stein would be favorable to and not want to potentially up-end by a recount.
Stein raised a total of a little over 2 million for her campaign and yet she raised over 5 million in a few days for the recount.
Seems to me that she is nothing more than a front-person for groups supportive of Hillary.
11-27-16, 05:11 PM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Originally Posted by LurkerDan
And yes, Stein does have standing to request a recount.
Unless there are 1,370,000+ miscounted votes this is a scam.
However- I was reading earlier that maybe the plan is to delay, delay, delay with hand recounts past the last day the official counts are required for states directing the Electoral College.
If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232. No one hits 270.
11-27-16, 05:14 PM
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Re: Beating Dead Horses: The Hillary Clinton Recount Chronicles
Originally Posted by sracer
The question remains, "why did Stein request a recount?"
Stein repeatedly stated on the campaign trail that if Clinton is elected she would get the US into a nuclear war. Logically, the outcome of the election is something that Stein would be favorable to and not want to potentially up-end by a recount.
Stein raised a total of a little over 2 million for her campaign and yet she raised over 5 million in a few days for the recount.
Seems to me that she is nothing more than a front-person for groups supportive of Hillary.
Stein repeatedly stated on the campaign trail that if Clinton is elected she would get the US into a nuclear war. Logically, the outcome of the election is something that Stein would be favorable to and not want to potentially up-end by a recount.
Stein raised a total of a little over 2 million for her campaign and yet she raised over 5 million in a few days for the recount.
Seems to me that she is nothing more than a front-person for groups supportive of Hillary.
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11-27-16, 07:12 PM
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Re: Beating Dead Horses: The Hillary Clinton Recount Chronicles
I'm not sure how a recount checks the integrity of the machines used ... and even if it does AND there is evidence of tampering, what has the chain of custody been for those machines to prove the tampering was done pre-election? The only outcomes are seemingly bad, really bad, or terrible.
11-27-16, 07:31 PM
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Re: Beating Dead Horses: The Hillary Clinton Recount Chronicles
Originally Posted by LurkerDan
You can think that she did this for Hillary, but it makes a lot more sense to me that she did this for her own benefit: to raise money, her profile, etc. She saw an opportunity with millions of upset Clinton voters willing to grasp at straws and a story that gave them a straw to grasp at, and she pounced on that opportunity. She's raised more money in one week than she did during the whole campaign. And you think she did this for Clinton's benefit?
11-27-16, 08:51 PM
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Re: Beating Dead Horses: The Hillary Clinton Recount Chronicles
Originally Posted by sracer
You make it sound like Stein gets to keep the money she raised.
11-27-16, 10:01 PM
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Re: Making a Buck off the Presidency - The Jill Stein Recount Edition
Jesus. Is it really offensive (to anyone) that a third party gets some additional funding? The two party system put up two assholes this year and we picked the worst of the two. 
