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Old 03-14-19, 01:20 PM
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Hillary winning with Super Delegates essentially killed the 'Party Bosses' picking who the nominees were.
Hillary Clinton won, and she had more super delegates, but there is little to no relationship between the two. She would've won without the super delegates.
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Old 03-14-19, 02:00 PM
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She would've won without the super delegates.
Maybe or maybe not. They count for 30% of the vote. Eight months before the convention HC already had a big superdelegate advantage over Sanders.
I believe that could have had an effect in swaying voters.

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The only people who cared about superdelegates were the Bernie voters who whined about them constantly. People saying superdelegates somehow swung the race are positing a significant number of voters plugged in enough to be aware of delegate counts but unaware enough to know that superdelegates are unpledged., and then casting their vote solely to be on the “winning team.” I just don’t think many people fall in that category.

And of course the superdelegates— elected and appointed Democratic officials — supported the woman who had been involved in Democratic politics for decades over the guy who held his nose and joined the Democratic Party just long enough to not be nominated. Why would they support Bernie?

And as long as I’m ranting, Dean underperformed dramatically in Iowa. That’s what sunk his campaign, not the scream.
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If this means we'd be getting Night Nurse as First Lady, I'm good with voting for Booker...

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If this means we'd be getting Night Nurse as First Lady, I'm good with voting for Booker...

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/st...78918951178241
I'd go with Abernathy, but for some reason a lot of people don't like Death Proof.
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I heard Beto's mom paid 500k to get him into the primaries. NO THANKS!
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Not a single day goes by without Trump being called stupid, but this was expected:

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I heard Beto's mom paid 500k to get him into the primaries. NO THANKS!

You must mean Robert Francis' Mom!
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If this means we'd be getting Night Nurse as First Lady, I'm good with voting for Booker...

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/st...78918951178241
Booker doesn't need to be president. He has already won at life.
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Old 03-14-19, 08:31 PM
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Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition

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Not a single day goes by without Trump being called stupid, but this was expected:

https://twitter.com/MatthewSitman/st...95059047845889
Must be frustrating if your Rachel Dolezal.Ridiculed by the press nationally for faking your identity,and then when one of the highest ranking Senator's does it on a grander scale and for a longer time frame the press gives them a pass and treat's them as a distinguished Presidential candidate.
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Must be frustrating if your Rachel Dolezal.Ridiculed by the press nationally for faking your identity,and then when one of the highest ranking Senator's does it on a grander scale and for a longer time frame the press gives them a pass and treat's them as a distinguished Presidential candidate.
Warren hasn't gotten a pass -- not even close. Your post is hyperbole and hogwash.
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Warren hasn't gotten a pass -- not even close. Your post is hyperbole and hogwash.



Imagine someone Pre Trump without irony saying that in an interview after doing the same thing for decades. You can look at people from the 70's -2012 in both parties who's gooses were cooked for far less then what Warren did and her subsequent own goal gaffes. Most people in both parties gets a free pass and kid gloves nowadays, because whataboutism allow Dems to justify well look at what toxic shit Trump is doing and any Republicans in their bubble get well at least they aren't Democrats for stuff they wouldn't have been able to do in the past. And the only people in the media who aren't outright spokeswing for either party just move onto some other scandal every other day so a politician just has to storm the heat for a while before the public forgets and or moves onto something else


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Old 03-15-19, 07:25 AM
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There's no evidence that Warren received preferential treatment. The faculty members who hired her said that her heritage wasn't even discussed. They said it was not a factor. Should we listen to the people in the room or you?

In any case, this issue was been extensively covered by the media, and there is no doubt that it has hurt her prospects for the Democratic nomination.
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Beto was part of the Hacktivist group known as Cult of the Dead Cow. Crazy stuff...

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Beto was part of the Hacktivist group known as Cult of the Dead Cow. Crazy stuff...

https://twitter.com/josephmenn/status/1106578730904764416
Is that like being a FreeMason?
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Show me the money.

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Old 03-15-19, 02:43 PM
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That's a BIT misleading.
Beto got those contributions from individuals employed in O&G, but not contributions directly from companies or PACs.

That isn't necessarily better... Just... Not quite what the list appears to suggest.
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Robert Francis has become the media darling.

‘Not one woman got that kind of coverage’: Beto backlash begins
Many Democrats see a double standard in the fanfare surrounding O’Rourke’s 2020 campaign launch.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...-women-1223073
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Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition

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That's a BIT misleading.
Beto got those contributions from individuals employed in O&G, but not contributions directly from companies or PACs.

That isn't necessarily better... Just... Not quite what the list appears to suggest.
It's incredibly misleading. When you contribute campaign funds, you're required to disclose your employer. Something like 10% of all Texans work in oil and gas, and the majority of Beto's 2018 donations came from Texans, ergo...

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Beto was part of the Hacktivist group known as Cult of the Dead Cow. Crazy stuff...

https://twitter.com/josephmenn/status/1106578730904764416
So you're saying Beto knows the cyber
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Old 03-15-19, 08:07 PM
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Pete Buttigieg is a really down to Earth and very likeable candidate from Indiana. Harvard graduate and served in the navy. Unfortunately, he isn't polling well...



You can donate here to help get him on stage for the debates: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/pete-buttigieg-3
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Nobody, but nobody, is going to get elected with a name that utterly mockable. That's a sad fact. He might have the charisma, knowledge, and debate skills of ten other candidates put together, but the name kills his chances.
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Nobody, but nobody, is going to get elected with a name that utterly mockable. That's a sad fact. He might have the charisma, knowledge, and debate skills of ten other candidates put together, but the name kills his chances.


There goes Hickenlooper's chances.
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Nobody, but nobody, is going to get elected with a name that utterly mockable. That's a sad fact. He might have the charisma, knowledge, and debate skills of ten other candidates put together, but the name kills his chances.
I know, right? That's almost as bad as if he had some terrorist sounding name like Barack Hussein Obama!
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