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Old 10-10-16, 04:49 PM
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And I thought I was being silly starting the 2016 thread the day after the election last time!

Of course Hillary will run for reelection, barring any huge catastrophes. Once she has a four year track record as President, assuming the country is reasonably on track, none of this "OMG! Email! Foundation!" bullshit will matter. She'll be judged as all incumbents are -- is the country headed in the right direction?
I like your optimism, but I think it's misplaced. The GOP spent 8 years portraying Obama as the worst, most illegitimate president in history, a claim totally divorced from reality. Clinton will be treated even worse. If she wins I hope she is successful and that like Obama, voters give her a chance if there's no one better, but the campaign to take her down is only beginning.
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This is most likely a fake quote.
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I like your optimism, but I think it's misplaced. The GOP spent 8 years portraying Obama as the worst, most illegitimate president in history, a claim totally divorced from reality. Clinton will be treated even worse. If she wins I hope she is successful and that like Obama, voters give her a chance if there's no one better, but the campaign to take her down is only beginning.
You might also note that <b>Clinton I</b> had an eight-year run only to see Republicans take over Congress in 1994, and a two-term Republican President elected to succeed him.

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You would assume being 12 years out of the Whitehouse The GOP will play it safe and go with someone like Rubio,Ryan,Sandovol,Kasich,Haley etc., but I wouldn't be surprised if they doubled down on insanity and Curt Schilling,Ann Coulter,Antonio Sabato Jr. or some alt right douche bro was their next nominee.
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You would assume being 12 years out of the Whitehouse The GOP will play it safe and go with someone like Rubio,Ryan,Sandovol,Kasich,Haley etc., but I wouldn't be surprised if the
The Republican Party nominating process doesn't have superdelegates.
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The Republican Party nominating process doesn't have superdelegates.
I wonder if the Republicans can institute some changes in their nomination process so that they don't end up with such an unappealing choice the next time around.
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The Republican Party nominating process doesn't have superdelegates.
I wonder if the Republicans can institute some changes in their nomination process so that they don't end up with such an unappealing choice the next time around.

The good news for them is that no one party has held the White House for more than 12 years since WWII. If they can find a nominee who isn't toxic and too divisive, they could absolutely make HRC a one-term President.
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Yes, I'm being silly. Last time I said that I expected to see Jeb Bush on the ballot. That's how good a prophet I am.

But I still think the Republicans will dig themselves deeper in four years. They'll look at the good results from the mid-term election and double down again.
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The Republicans would be better served to find someone fresh who doesn't have the stink of this election on him/her.
Independent Party is going to win in 2020. Republicans and Democrats have lost their appeal to most voters. Bernie and Trump proved this. Assuming Hillary wins this election, 2016 will be the establishment's last Hoorah, and another party will take it. Just who will lead is not clear at this point.

We know what Hillary's policies will be and how little bite to foreign aggressors they will have an effect on (both economic and otherwise), and how an increase in taxes, especially targeting the poor and businesses, will finally drive the economy into the ground. The housing market is already about to burst, and since I'm looking to buy a house in a year (I'm looking in several states, by the way), I've been discussing this issue with several realtors. They know it's coming. They're trying to sell as many homes within the year as they possibly can. Many homeowners still have ARMs and at least 30% of the debt that was allegedly absolved into the economic sector when the first mortgage crisis happened...has not realized and has been kept afloat. As an aside, look at Wells Fargo trying to make money. They were basically scamming millions of their customers, just to show a balance. Money is being made from several other desperate processes, other than the reliable selling of a home to a consumer who has a good job. Because good jobs are not sticking in the private sector.

Even with Trump as President, the economy would need serious adjustment. With Hillary, it will just get worse, faster.
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You would assume being 12 years out of the Whitehouse The GOP will play it safe
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In a word, yes. We live in a country whose government was engineered (not intentionally, but even so) to produce two political parties. Anyone who doesn't recognize this is, by definition, tilting at windmills.
Was Sanders right to run as a Democrat?
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I was thinking about starting a new thread about this topic, but I guess it dovetails into the 2020 election. What will the Republican Party look like in 2020? Will they listen to the postmortem advice from 2012, or triple down on border wall building and keeping out refugees? You know, the things that really warm the hearts of minorities in this country.

Politico - Where does the GOP go from here?

Where does the GOP go from here?

With Trump having all but thrown away the White House, Republicans are struggling to contemplate their future.

By Ben Schreckinger 10/20/16 11:31 AM EDT

With the last glimmers of Donald Trump’s White House hopes fading on the heels of his final debate performance, Republicans don’t even want to think about what comes next.

As they scramble to protect their congressional majority, Republican operatives and conservative leaders expect the party to muddle through the next few weeks as divided as it has been since the latest wave of defections triggered by the release of a 2005 tape in which Trump brags about sexual assault, and they are optimistic that ticket-splitting will allow their down-ballot candidates to survive the Trump-induced headwinds that they face.

As for the post-election reckoning, with Trump refusing on Wednesday to pledge to accept the results, an angry base already blaming congressional leaders for abandoning the nominee, and the party’s brand with young people and minorities tarnished, by and large, Republicans are not ready to go there.

Asked where the party goes from here, Republican National Committee Committeewoman Christine Toretti of Pennsylvania responded, “The White House?” before adding, “I’m teasing. I’m no Miss Cleo! I have no comments at this time.”

Thursday morning had Republicans waxing philosophical about living in the present and the inexorable march of time. “I hesitate to make any broad predictions about things. Who knows what’s going to happen in the future?” said Republican operative and former Mitt Romney aide Ryan Williams, who limited his predictions to the fate of Hillary Clinton, who he said would start her presidency “as popular as a skunk at a garden party” and go on to match the “scandal-a-week” pace of her husband’s administration.

Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the pro-life group Susan B. Anthony List, declined to comment on the party’s future, saying she preferred to “stay in the moment.”

“This is a premature conversation in some ways,” said Republican strategist Charlie Gerow. Much, he said, will depend on “how Mr. Trump reacts to Nov. 8.”

Veteran lobbyist Charlie Black also called the question of the party’s future premature, “unless talking about how many elections we win next month.”

Sarah Isgur Flores, who served as Carly Fiorina’s deputy campaign manager, remained fixated on what might have been. “When you look at how far ahead of Trump these down-ballot Republican candidates are running, it’s clear how winnable the White House was for Republicans if we’d nominated a candidate with even the slightest strategy to win,” she said.

Flores expressed hope that after Election Day, the party can simply wash its hands of Trump and move on. “If those Senate and House races hold where we think they are, Paul Ryan and others will have a strong case to make that Trump wasn’t a Republican and that’s why he lost while all these actual conservatives won their races.”

But a more thorough reckoning is inevitable. Already, conservative groups are beginning to schedule their post-election confabs, where the soul-searching will begin in earnest. On Nov. 10, two days after the election, the Heritage Foundation will hold its post-election gathering on “The future of the Constitution in a new administration.”

Such events will be only the beginning of the process. “Anybody that thinks this is going to get resolved in a matter of days or weeks is frankly whistling past a graveyard,” Gerow said. “It’s going to take some time to put the pieces together.”

Romney’s loss in 2012 led to a long postmortem report, commissioned by the RNC, that recommended the party make itself more inclusive and welcoming, especially to Hispanics. But the autopsy’s authors and their fellow travelers have watched in dismay as Trump has led the party in the opposite direction, making the notion that another committee report will be sufficient to repair the damage fanciful.

“The problem with these election look-backs is that they happen in the first few months after the race ends, but by the time people are running a couple years later everybody’s forgotten about it,” said Williams.

For one conservative leader willing to contemplate the post-Trump future, the full extent of the work required to salvage the party could only be expressed in terms of reality television.

“For this election, the Republican Party should be thinking about ‘Survivor.’ Alliances only take you so far in the era of Trump Cult, so it’s really every man and woman for themselves,” said Iowa radio host Steve Deace. “Beyond this election, it’s ‘Extreme Home Makeover,’ with an emphasis on the extreme. This is not a home that needs mere updating. It needs to be trashed and masterfully rebuilt on the fly, and in a hurry if it wants to keep people’s attention and get renewed.”
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As a Democrat I wish John Kasich had won the Republican nomination as I would have voted for him for the President. Trump is just too hot-headed and I'm real not a fan of Hillary either.
one of the greatest illusions created by any candidate in this cycle was the one Kasich created as the reasonable, moderate, Republican candidate. He has a long history that demonstrates he is anything but that.
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Was Sanders right to run as a Democrat?
Absolutely. And notwithstanding his talismanic insistence that he's not a Democrat, for all intents and purposes he's a member of the party. He caucuses with them, he votes with them, and the party doesn't run a candidate against him in elections.
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one of the greatest illusions created by any candidate in this cycle was the one Kasich created as the reasonable, moderate, Republican candidate. He has a long history that demonstrates he is anything but that.
All he had going for him was that he was nice and wasn't an extremist like Trump, Cruz, Carson, Jindal, etc..... He's a religious fanatic and his old political colleagues (both D's & R's) from Ohio say he's a nasty SOB.
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I'm curious who the Democrats will nominate for the 2020 run. I don't think it'll be Bernie Sanders or Michelle Obama as the following articles point out. I think they'll pick someone with Celebrity status to go up against Trump. Maybe Kanye West?

Bernie Sanders' wife dismisses 2020 White House bid

Sanders' wife, Jane, dismissed speculation Friday that her husband was considering another bid for the White House in 2020.

"See? That's exactly the wrong question, Wolf," Sanders told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on "Wolf" when asked whether the Vermont senator would vie for the Democratic presidential nomination in four years. "Nobody cares except the political pundits. He is not -- he's concerned about 2017."
Sanders said her husband, whose democratic socialism platform became a lightning rod for progressives disenchanted with a perceived center-left political establishment, was instead focused on healing a divided country after a bitter campaign cycle.
"He's concerned about our Muslim population in feeling great fear right now," Sanders said. "We're hoping that President-elect Trump will give them a reason to not feel that any more."
RELATED: Sanders pushes Keith Ellison for DNC chairman as Howard Dean plans run
Sanders continued, "(Bernie Sanders is) concerned about the fact that people are hurting, that the water systems in Flint are still not repaired," before adding that "what happens in 2020 will happen in 2020."
Sanders -- who was a top aide and adviser during her husband's run for the White House and is now heavily involved with his political organization, Revolution -- echoed Bernie Sanders' support of Rep. Keith Ellison to become the next head of the Democratic National Committee.
However, Sanders did not clarify whether her husband would caucus as an independent during the Senate's next session.
"My one hope with President Trump is that he said he is going to go in there and represent the working people," Sanders said, underscoring the need for Democrats and Republicans to find common ground on trade, globalization, jobs and infrastructure. "And then we need to fight him back on some of the other areas that he is talking about."

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Michelle Obama Will Not Run For Office in 2020 — And Here’s Why
As First Lady Michelle Obama prepares to vacate the White House for the incoming president and his family, she reflects on the eight years she’s spent living in the iconic residence. Speaking with Vogue, the FLOTUS reveals what she’ll miss most and what she looks forward to once her husband, President Barack Obama, steps down from his post for Donald Trump.

“You know, there are little … moments. Even today I was looking out at this view here,” she tells the fashion mag, gesturing to the view outside 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. “Looking out on the South Lawn and the Washington Monument and it had just rained and the grass was really green and everything popped a little bit more. It’s soooo beautiful. And for that moment I thought, I’m going to miss waking up to this, having access to this anytime I want.”

“But on the flip side … it’s time. I think our democracy has it exactly right: two terms, eight years. It’s enough. Because it’s important to have one foot in reality when you have access to this kind of power,” she continues. “The nature of living in the White House is isolating. And I think Barack and I — because we’re kind of stubborn — we’ve maintained some normalcy, mostly because of the age of our kids. I go out to dinner with my girlfriends; I go to Sasha’s games; Barack has coached a little basketball with Sasha’s team. But at the same time, when you can’t walk into CVS?”

HERE'S WHERE THE OBAMAS WILL LIVE WHEN THEY LEAVE THE WHITE HOUSE
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While she did visit a CVS during her latest appearance on Ellen, the Harvard-educated lawyer admits that running to the local drugstore is practically impossible for someone in her current position, saying, “I always think, Fun for me! But a complete hassle for my Secret Service agents.”

She explains, “When you’re not engaged in the day-to-day struggles that everybody feels, you slowly start losing touch. And I think it’s important for the people in the White House to have a finger on the pulse.”

As for rumors that she’ll run for president come 2020? Though the internet is certainly hoping to see her name on the ballot in four years, those closest to the First Family say Michelle will most likely stay away from politics once she’s out of the White House.

KATE MIDDLETON AND PRINCE WILLIAM MEET WITH BARACK AND MICHELLE OBAMA FOR DINNER
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“Absolutely not,” Valerie Jarrett, the Senior Advisor to the President of the United States, tells the publication when asked if Michelle plans to run for office. When pressed, she explains that Michelle is so likable because she’s not a politician and never will be. “Everybody knows exactly why she’s doing what she’s doing. There are no hidden agendas. She’s pure in mission, honest, kind, empathetic.”

The POTUS himself even adds that Michelle never aspired to be a First Lady in the first place.

“Michelle never asked to be First Lady,” he writes in an email to the magazine. “Like a lot of political spouses, the role was thrust upon her. But I always knew she’d be incredible at it, and put her own unique stamp on the job. That’s because who you see is who she is — the brilliant, funny, generous woman who, for whatever reason, agreed to marry me. I think people gravitate to her because they see themselves in her — a dedicated mom, a good friend, and someone who’s not afraid to poke a little fun at herself from time to time.”

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“I could have spent eight years doing anything, and at some level, it would have been fine,” Michelle says, reflecting on her time as a First Lady. “I could have focused on flowers. I could have focused on decor. I could have focused on entertainment. Because any First Lady, rightfully, gets to define her role. There’s no legislative authority; you’re not elected. And that’s a wonderful gift of freedom.”

Whatever she chooses to do next, it’s safe to say that America will miss her presence in the White House.

http://www.celebuzz.com/2016-11-11/m...st-lady-vogue/
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Anything The Donald can do! Chris Rock and Ron Perlman join Kanye West in announcing 2020 presidential challenges


Many celebrities were heartbroken when Donald Trump upset the odds to become the 45th President of the United States.
And he is already facing challenges ahead of his reelection campaign after it emerged Chris Rock and Ron Perlman have joined Kanye West by announcing on Thursday they will run to become the next Commander-in-Chief.
Given the power of celebrity has been pointed to by some as the reason for the billionaire's shock trouncing of Hillary Clinton, it would certainly put the theory to the test if they follow through on their pledges.
Looking over his shoulder? President elect Donald Trump got two new celebrity challengers for a 2020 run on Thursday
Looking over his shoulder? President elect Donald Trump got two new celebrity challengers for a 2020 run on Thursday
In a typically hilarious Twitter posting on Thursday, Chris, who for the sake of office would be known as Christopher Julius Rock III, revealed his slogan will be 'the only thing white is the house.'
The 51-year-old also said: 'I'm gonna run in 2020 wish me luck.'



Ironically he once mused on the prospect of a possible Colin Powell run in his stand up days, mocking the fact people would often remark the retired four-star general 'talks so well.'
Meanwhile Hellboy star Ron, 66, made a desperate grab at relevancy when he said: 'I am hereby using my immense Facebook presence to announce my candidacy for President of United States, 2020.'
Rock-ing the boat: Chris announced his run with this hilarious mock election poster
Rock-ing the boat: Chris announced his run with this hilarious mock election poster
You do Ron? Perlman announced he is also going to try and become the 46th president
You do Ron? Perlman announced he is also going to try and become the 46th president
The dynamic duo are joined in the very early running by Kanye West, who threw his hat in the ring back last year when he gave a bizarre, rambling speech at the MTV Video Music Awards.
The Vanguard Award winner said: 'I don’t know what I stand to lose after this, it don’t matter though, because it ain’t about me, it’s about new ideas, bro, new ideas.
'People with ideas, people who believe in truth.
'And yes, as you probably could have guessed by this moment, I have decided in 2020 to run for president.'
While he has yet to announce his vice presidential pick, the tantalising prospect of a West-Vanilla Ice ticket remains very much in the offing, and would surely energise a huge swathe of disaffected voters.


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A more serious article on who might run Elizabeth Warren sounds like a good choice:


Which Democrats could challenge Donald Trump in 2020 presidential election?

Hillary Clinton had barely hung up the phone after conceding to Donald Trump when disappointed Democrats began mulling who could succeed where she had failed in four years' time.

The Republican's shock win, after months of polls had suggested the Democratic nominee was favourite, devastated the Democrats and left the party considering how best to move forward.

“Senate Democrats will spend the coming days and weeks reflecting on these results, hearing from the American people, and charting a path forward,” said Senator Charles Schumer, in line to become the next Democratic leader.
The defeat will spur much soul-searching within a party that was already divided after the fierce battle in the primaries between Mrs Clinton and the more left-wing Bernie Sanders.

Here are some of the names being touted as potential Democratic candidates in the 2020 presidential election.

Elizabeth Warren

The Massachusetts firebrand is near the top of most lists for future candidates. The senator, a heroine on the populist left who would appeal to supporters of Senator Bernie Sanders, was quick to rally the party after Mrs Clinton's defeat, warning Mr Trump that he would face a battle within the White House.

"We are going to be smart, we are going to be organised, we're going to use our time and talents in a strategic and careful way, but we are going to fight back. We are not going to turn this country over to what Donald Trump has sold," Ms Warren, 67, said in an interview with television network MSNBC.

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When asked who she would choose as a running mate for 2020, the mother-of-two laughed and deflected. “That is a long way off,” she said. “We don’t have energy to waste on that.”

Arthur Schwartz, a Manhattan Democratic district leader who backed Mr Sanders during the primary season, said “she would be fantastic". “We’re going to hear a lot from her over the next four years,” he added.

Andrew Cuomo

If Senator Warren would be favoured by the Sanders camp, Andrew Cuomo, the New York Governor, would be among the preferred candidates for the party establishment. Even as Mrs Clinton was watching the disappointing results come in on Tuesday night, Democratic officials and donors gathered at her event at the Javits Center were talking up Goernor Cuomo.

“The governor of New York is always a potential candidate,” said a Democratic Party insider who was at the event, according to the New York Post.

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Asked on Wednesday about a possible role in the 2020 presidential race, Mr Cuomo, 58, said: “I see a role for myself as governor of New York.”

Like Mrs Clinton, however, the father-of-three also comes with political baggage, with two former aides, Joseph Percoco and Todd Howe, having been involved in corruption scandals.

Whether he envisions a White House run could come apparent when he makes a decision on whether to seek re-election for a third term in 2018.

Tim Kaine

As Hillary Clinton's running mate in the last election, the Virginia senator would also be seen as an establishment figure. The 58-year-old has extensive experience in public office, having served as governor of Virginia for four years prior to becoming senator. He is fluent in Spanish, which will appeal to the party's aim to recruit more Hispanic voters.

He is also a familiar figure in Washington, having sat on the influential armed services and foreign relations committees, the budget committee and was also the state's lieutenant governor and mayor of Richmond.


Recent history shows a run for vice-presidency can precede a bid for the top job. Joe Lieberman, Al Gore’s running mate in 2000, later ran for president in 2004, and John Edwards, John Kerry’s running mate in 2004, later ran for president in 2008.

When his name was first touted to be Mrs Clinton's running mate, the father-of-three said: "I'm boring. But boring is the fastest growing demographic in the country."

Cory Booker

The New Jersey Senator, who was reportedly on Mrs Clinton’s shortlist for her running mate and endorsed her early on in her campaign, has emerged as one of the most prominent African-American elected leaders in the country.

The 47-year-old is a gifted campaigner with a large following, particularly on social media, and would engage well with black voters and young people.

"He is a popular senator here in the state. He's made friends in the Senate there. He's raised his profile," Patrick Murray, head of the Monmouth University Polling Institute, told Politico.

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Senator Booker made a strong impression at the Democratic National Convention, giving an impassioned, soaring address around the theme of "America, we will rise".

While Senator Warren was quick to keep up the attack on Mr Trump after election, Mr Booker's tone echoed that of President Barack Obama.

"I feel like I have no choice but to be hopeful and determined. My heart wants to give him space to prove that he will unite America."

Julian Castro

The grandson of a Mexican immigrant, the Texas Democrat was raised by a single mother in a poor neighbourhood of San Antonio, where he later became mayor.

The 42-year-old burst onto the national stage in 2012 when the then mayor of San Antonio delivered the keynote speech at the Democratic convention - the first Latino to be awarded the privilege by either party. The strong performance earned many plaudits and drew instant comparisons with Barack Obama, the first African American to speak in the same coveted slot in 2004.

The young and charismatic politician, whose twin brother Joaquín serves in the US House of Representatives, went on to become the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development two years later and is considered one of the party’s brightest rising stars.

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He was talked about a possible running mate for Mrs Clinton. Now the father of two is being linked with the top job.

When asked if the Democrats should review the party's direction after the election, he said: “Of course, any time especially in an election like this where you’re expected to win and you don’t, it makes sense to go back and understand what happened.”

Kirsten Gillibrand

The respected New York Senator, who was also talked of as a possible VP candidate, took Mrs Clinton's seat in a special election in 2010 and admitted when she was chosen that many would not have heard of her. "I realise that for many New Yorkers, this is the first time you have heard my name and you don't know much about me," she said at the time, before vowing to "represent the many diverse views and voices of the entire state as your senator." She was elected for a full term in 2012.

During her time in Congress, the 49-year-old mother-of-two was influential in scrapping Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, a policy which effectively prevented gay people from serving, and brought more transparency to Washington by publishing online information such as her public schedule and personal financial disclosures.

Kirsten Gillibrand, with Bill Clinton
Kirsten Gillibrand, with Bill Clinton CREDIT: AP
Addressing the issue of women in politics, she once said: "My own experience in Congress is when women are on committees and at hearings, the nature of the discussion is different, and the outcomes are better - we reach better solutions, better decisions are made."

Ms Gillibrand is considered a centrist Democrat who could win over some Republicans, while her opposition to gun control measures has drawn prompt criticism from some of New York's more liberal officials.

Bernie Sanders

Bernie Sanders, the Democratic socialist senator from Vermont, fought hard to beat Mrs Clinton in the primaries, drawing crowds of more than 10,000 people to his rallies and running on a populist platform that promised to rein in Wall Street and redistribute America's wealth.

Such was the split in the party that some of his supporters couldn't bring themselves to vote for Mrs Clinton in the election.

The 75-year-old sounded as if he was resuming his campaign when he told the party this week that it should be "embarrassed" by its failure to reach out to white working-class voters and criticised Mrs Clinton for accepting millions of dollars in speaking fees from large corporations and US banks.


"You cannot be a party which, on one hand, says we're in favour of working people, we're in favour of the needs of young people, but we don't quite have the courage to take on Wall Street and the billionaire class," Mr Sanders said. "People do not believe that. You've got to decide which side you're on."

He also refused to rule out running for the presidency in 2020. "Four years is a long time from now," he said. "We'll take one thing at a time, but I'm not ruling out anything."

Michelle Obama

Amid all the chatter of who could replace Mr Trump in 2020, the First Lady has created the greatest clamour. Yet she is also probably the least likely to run.

The 52-year-old mother-of-two charmed the US, and the world, for eight years to become one of the most popular presidential spouses America has seen. She then became known as one of the most effective political communicators around with her barnstorming speech at this year's Democratic National Convention and her emotional attack on Mr Trump in the summer.

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Yet Valerie Jarrett, senior adviser to the president and a friend of the Obamas, was adamant in ruling out a White House run from the First Lady. "Absolutely not," she told Vogue.

David Axelrod, a strategist close to the Obamas, said in a radio interview that he “would bet everything I own” against her running for office.

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I like Cory Booker. He's black and I think could turn out the black vote. Of the 7,000,000 who stayed home, how many were black? It feels like Dems need to "like" their candidate personally. Policies seem to be secondary. The Republican base will always turn out, but it's a numbers game. There are more registered Dems out there and if they get off their asses and vote, the Dems will win. I think Booker can do that. He younger than a lot of the other popular candidates, so maybe the youth will turn out to vote for him? LOL, I know the youth vote, fat chance.
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John Fetterman, mayor of Braddock, PA.

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I want that fucking guy to be my president. He's from Pennsylvania and looks like he could fuck about anyone up. His wife's hot, too.

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As a Democrat I wish John Kasich had won the Republican nomination as I would have voted for him for the President. Trump is just too hot-headed and I'm real not a fan of Hillary either.
Kasich?

You do remember Kasich making that WONDERFULLLLLL speech about if his daughter was gay, and he gave a great response.

Not long later he signs a bill in Ohio, preventing Planned Parenthood from getting federal and/or state funding.

And Ohio seems to have done a 180 on their support for Trump over the last 3 months, as it was allegedly going Democrat due to the "NeverTrump" crowds who were allegedly for Kasich.

Once again, the voters proved the facts, the polls proved disinformation put out by several biased media sourc
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It's funny reading the early posts in this thread that all took it as an article of faith that Hillary would win.
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Kasich?

You do remember Kasich making that WONDERFULLLLLL speech about if his daughter was gay, and he gave a great response.

Not long later he signs a bill in Ohio, preventing Planned Parenthood from getting federal and/or state funding.

And Ohio seems to have done a 180 on their support for Trump over the last 3 months, as it was allegedly going Democrat due to the "NeverTrump" crowds who were allegedly for Kasich.

Once again, the voters proved the facts, the polls proved disinformation put out by several biased media sourc
Exactly. Fuck the Republican elite.

The next President will be someone the progressives want - like Elizabeth Warren, or Corey Booker, or Frankie Muniz.
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John Fetterman, mayor of Braddock, PA.
Fuck yeah!!!

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