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Old 06-14-16, 05:10 PM
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One and only Hillary email, sham charity, and various scandals thread

Hey look! A thread to contain all my crazy!

This claims to show that Hillary is lying when she says that no email she sent or received was marked as classified at the time and this is just a case of over classifying things.

Despite Clinton claims, 2012 email had classified marking

Hillary Clinton, from the moment her exclusive use of personal email for government business was exposed, has claimed nothing she sent or received was marked classified at the time.

But a 2012 email released by the State Department appears to challenge that claim because it carries a classified code known as a “portion marking” - and that marking was on the email when it was sent directly to Clinton’s account.

The “C” - which means it was marked classified at the confidential level - is in the left-hand-margin and relates to an April 2012 phone call with Malawi's first female president, Joyce Banda, who took power after the death of President Mutharika in 2012.

"(C) Purpose of Call: to offer condolences on the passing of President Mukharika and congratulate President Banda on her recent swearing in."

Everything after that was fully redacted before it was publicly released by the State Department -- a sign that the information was classified at the time and dealt with sensitive government deliberations.
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Congressman Mike Pompeo, who sits on the House Intelligence Committee, has read the 22 Top Secret emails too damaging to national security to release, and routinely reviews classified documents.

While he could not speak directly to the April 2012 email, he said, "I've seen information like that often. Often certain parts of a particular message will be unclassified and other parts will be classified and they are almost always marked paragraph by paragraph."
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On Wednesday, Clinton told Bret Baier on Special Report, “the fact is, nothing that I sent or received was marked classified, and nothing has been demonstrated to contradict that. “
So if I'm reading all this correctly, they would have a "C" in the margin for that part of the conversation being confidential, and one often sees those in the margins. The full article points out that U is for unclassified, TS for top secret, etc. And those are found in some emails, and coincidentally everything after that mark was redacted.

I admit to making the assumption that at some point before Hillary signed an NDA, all this was explained to her, and being a lawyer she should have understood it. Though I'm sure this seems awfully picky to some. To me it seems to play into her entire lie tactic of continuing the mantra of "it was allowed," and everything else she said that the OIG report directly refuted.

People will start to defend this by saying that nothing bad happened as a result of her self admitted mistake. Don't be fooled into that argument. Next you'll be saying there's no proof that Russia (or any other country) wasn't going to act just like they did anyway.
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But didn't Hillary have others strip the email correspondence that would have indicated the email was classified? Or do we actually have proof Hillary stripped the headers herself, knowing it was classified.
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Oh, wait, no it won't.
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This thread won't be complete until it has a "whore" word counter.
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This thread won't be complete until it has a "whore" word counter.
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What's the maximum amount of posts a thread can handle? Well.. guess we'll find out.
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What's the maximum amount of posts a thread can handle? Well.. guess we'll find out.
Maximum amount of posts by a single person you mean.
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Hey, maybe she didn't know this was wrong.

Hillary Clinton Emails: A Timeline of What Rules Were Allegedly Ignored

This is from March 2015. Very interesting. She may have learned this from Bush.

In the midst of the 2008 presidential race, Clinton took a jab at the Bush administration's use of non-governmental email accounts.

"Our Constitution is being shredded. We know about the secret wiretaps. We know about secret military tribunals, the secret White House email accounts," Clinton said in a 2007 campaign speech.
But shortly after losing the nomination she decides she would go ahead and do the same thing, but only because it was convenient.

This also made the timeline back before Hillary had a mantra.

2005

The Foreign Affairs Manual was codified by the State Department, which ruled in 2005 that employees could only use private email accounts for official business if they turned those emails over to be entered into government computers.
"It was allowed." So I assume she is saying that the server was allowed, but that she in no way complied with the requirement.

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I hope this doesn't turn out like the global warming thread, where 95% of the posts are all by the same person
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So if I'm reading all this correctly, they would have a "C" in the margin for that part of the conversation being confidential, and one often sees those in the margins. The full article points out that U is for unclassified, TS for top secret, etc. And those are found in some emails, and coincidentally everything after that mark was redacted.

I admit to making the assumption that at some point before Hillary signed an NDA, all this was explained to her, and being a lawyer she should have understood it. Though I'm sure this seems awfully picky to some. To me it seems to play into her entire lie tactic of continuing the mantra of "it was allowed," and everything else she said that the OIG report directly refuted.
What confuses me about this is that electronic communication with classified content is never supposed to be transmitted on an open network, so the sender who originated the email and marked it classified and then sent it over the internet committed a security violation. That said, as soon as it was read on the other end, it should have been treated as a secure data spill and locked down to be dealt with.
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What confuses me about this is that electronic communication with classified content is never supposed to be transmitted on an open network, so the sender who originated the email and marked it classified and then sent it over the internet committed a security violation. That said, as soon as it was read on the other end, it should have been treated as a secure data spill and locked down to be dealt with.
It would have been silly for Hillary to use an outside email address for people to send mail to her because it wouldn't be available on x.500 or a slew of other lookups and people wouldn't find her. She likely used a pop or imap to forward her received mail to her private address. None of that is on the sender.
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Clinton said that she “didn’t mislead anyone” about the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
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Wow, it's like grundle's back. Are you going to compile a book of 4001 Well Sourced Lies Hillary Has Told, Dave?
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Feels appropriate for this thread. Why is Hilary dressed like Chairman Mao?
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Holy shit! Her jacket has a collar on it!!
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So is the Clinton Foundation a slush fund? It took in 14O million dollars in 2013, but only 9 million went to direct aid. http://nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity...-a-slush-fund/
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Feels appropriate for this thread. Why is Hilary dressed like Chairman Mao?
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Feels appropriate for this thread. Why is Hilary dressed like Chairman Mao?
I know you hate all women, but I just wanted to point out to you that Chairman Mao was actually a man.
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The butthurt in this thread is going to be strong.
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Her entire rationale for doing this was so she didn't have to carry around multiple devices.

When someone asked her if she uses iPhone or Android she said ...
“iPhone. OK, in full disclosure, and a BlackBerry,” Clinton said, adding: “I’m like two steps short of a hoarder. So I have an iPad, a mini iPad, an iPhone and a BlackBerry.”
So, she went through the trouble to set up a private server, all to avoid carrying around multiple devices, even though she carries around multiple devices.

Stupid or Liar?
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Stupid or Liar?
The correct answer is "whore". It's always "whore" for anything Hillary does.

Benghazi!
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The correct answer is "whore". It's always "whore" for anything Hillary does.

Benghazi!
I don't see anything sexual about what she did.

a) she set up a private email server to avoid having to carry around multiple devices
b) she carries around multiple devices.

that makes sense to you. Why?
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Wow, it's like grundle's back. Are you going to compile a book of 4001 Well Sourced Lies Hillary Has Told, Dave?
And kill your erection? Nah.

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