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Old 07-11-17, 01:28 AM   #801
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I think it has more to do with how some conservatives view college universities as being staffed by faculty who are politically biased and left leaning.
(Quite rightly).

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Old 07-11-17, 01:38 AM   #802
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I like McCartney.

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When you were young and your heart was an empty book
Parents filled it with religious shit
(You know they did)
(You know they did)
(You know they did)
But if this knowledge gainin' world
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Old 08-25-17, 10:24 PM   #803
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At Ryerson University in Canada, when a student wanted to write a paper to debunk the gender wage gap, her sociology professor inisisted that the gap was real, and told her that she was not allowed to use government data to show that the gap did not exist:


http://www.torontosun.com/2017/03/09...inist-journals

Ryerson instructor tells student to only rely on feminist journals

March 9, 2017



TORONTO - A Ryerson University student who wanted to write a paper on the “myth” of the male-female wage gap was told by her prof that not only was she wrong, she should only rely on feminist journals for her assignment instead of business sources which “blame women,” her sister says.

Josephine Mathias, 21, a fourth-year political science student at University of Toronto, took to YouTube Wednesday to criticize the assignment given her twin Jane for a sociology class.

“I mean it’s easy to prove a point when you remove all other sources,” Josephine said Thursday. “If she just gives you the ones that...the professor agrees with, then that’s basically brainwashing. It’s indoctrination.

After Jane sent an email describing her intention to write about the wag gap, her instructor replied that her premise was wrong, Josephine said.

“Perhaps you want to write your paper on the glass ceiling. You need to look at feminist sources on this issue...Do NOT use business sources. They blame women. The reality is patriarchy,” says the instructor’s email, posted online.


In a copy of the assignment provided to the Toronto Sun by Josephine, the instructor also notes that Ontario and Canada government websites and Statistics Canada will not be considered scholarly sources.

“Government websites state government policy that is devoid of analysis, and usually reproduces mainstream stereotypes, assumptions and misconceptions,” the assignment says.


Although the video refers to a professor, the person is listed on the Ryerson website as an instructor.

She did not respond to a Toronto Sun request for comment, and Ryerson University declined to comment on the video.

Jane said in an email that she initially questioned her own research after the instructor’s email, but is now happy to have the support of those who have spoken up in opposition.

“There are other students in that class who don’t have that privilege and are filled with misinformation,” Jane said. “It’s hurtful towards them in the long run.”

The instructor says the wage gap exists, but works through the “glass ceiling.”

Josephine said the facts do not support the wage gap myth, noting in her YouTube video that it is illegal to pay women less than men for the same work and differences come about as a result of education and career choices as well as hours of work.

Impressionable students should be encouraged to use credible business sources and statistics, but instead are being sent out into the real world without a realistic point of view, she said.

“They have no facts. They have no tangible explanations or solutions for anything,” Josephine said. “All the sources or all the information they know comes from feminist literature that’s not even correct.”

Josephine has tackled a number of controversial topics in her YouTube videos because she wants to show that a person “can be liberal and still be against political correctness and pro free speech.”

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Old 09-19-17, 04:15 AM   #804
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Don't see a thread for "free expression on campuses, so guess this high school story related to the topic fits best here. It's about a high school teacher who forbade her students to wear Trump tee-shirts in class because she equates that with wearing swastikas.

A protest has been organized to demand her dismissal.

Article from Atlanta Journal-Constitution dated 9/18/17:

http://www.ajc.com/news/local/protes...FNIiWtks2AVqI/
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Old 09-19-17, 04:40 AM   #805
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Another high school story from a few months back that may have been posted although I didn't notice it if it was.

This one is about a summer reading list for an AP government class in which students were required to read one book from a list that contained books authored almost entirely by conservative writers. Due to protests from some parents, the reading list was cancelled (although superintendent says the list was pulled due to the teacher's not following proper procedure of submitting list for approval).

Article: http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index....6/post_95.html
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Old 09-19-17, 05:01 AM   #806
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American Library Association's lists of Top Ten Most Challenged Books in public and school libraries makes for interesting reading. Here's a link listing top ten for each year from 2016 back to 2001.

http://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/f...gedbooks/top10

One thing of particular interest is to note the shift from "classic" books (Huckleberry Finn, Of Mice and Men, Brave New World) and "contemporary classics" (Roll of Thunder, Chocolate War, Bridge to Teribithia) to nearly all contemporary books released within the past few years or within the listing year (Harry Potter series, Hunger Games, and now many currently-popular titles).

Some exceptions persist, of course. In 2015, the Holy Bible made the list at #6.
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One thing of particular interest is to note the shift from "classic" books (Huckleberry Finn, Of Mice and Men, Brave New World) and "contemporary classics" (Roll of Thunder, Chocolate War, Bridge to Teribithia) to nearly all contemporary books released within the past few years or within the listing year (Harry Potter series, Hunger Games, and now many currently-popular titles).
The thing to note is the books are being challenged mainly by bigots:

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This One Summer written by Mariko Tamaki and illustrated by Jillian Tamaki
Reasons: challenged because it includes LGBT characters, drug use and profanity, and it was considered sexually explicit with mature themes
Drama written and illustrated by Raina Telgemeier
Reasons: challenged because it includes LGBT characters, was deemed sexually explicit, and was considered to have an offensive political viewpoint
George written by Alex Gino
Reasons: challenged because it includes a transgender child, and the “sexuality was not appropriate at elementary levels”
I Am Jazz written by Jessica Herthel and Jazz Jennings, and illustrated by Shelagh McNicholas
Reasons: challenged because it portrays a transgender child and because of language, sex education, and offensive viewpoints
Two Boys Kissing written by David Levithan
Reasons: challenged because its cover has an image of two boys kissing, and it was considered to include sexually explicit LGBT content
Looking for Alaska written by John Green
Reasons: challenged for a sexually explicit scene that may lead a student to “sexual experimentation”
Big Hard Sex Criminals written by Matt Fraction and illustrated by Chip Zdarsky
Reason: challenged because it was considered sexually explicit
Make Something Up: Stories You Can’t Unread written by Chuck Palahniuk
Reasons: challenged for profanity, sexual explicitness, and being “disgusting and all around offensive”
Little Bill (series) written by Bill Cosby and and illustrated by Varnette P. Honeywood
Reason: challenged because of criminal sexual allegations against the author
Eleanor & Park written by Rainbow Rowell
Reason: challenged for offensive language
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The thing to note is the books are being challenged mainly by bigots:
What a shocker.
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but, of course.
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Big Hard Sex Criminals written by Matt Fraction and illustrated by Chip Zdarsky
Reason: challenged because it was considered sexually explicit


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It's the hardcover collection of a comic book called Sex Criminals. I've read a bit of it. And, yes, it is sexually explicit.
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Old 09-19-17, 03:38 PM   #811
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Don't see a thread for "free expression on campuses, so guess this high school story related to the topic fits best here. It's about a high school teacher who forbade her students to wear Trump tee-shirts in class because she equates that with wearing swastikas.

A protest has been organized to demand her dismissal.

Article from Atlanta Journal-Constitution dated 9/18/17:

http://www.ajc.com/news/local/protes...FNIiWtks2AVqI/
Sean O'Hara already addressed this on the last page. His words:
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If he wore a KKK shirt or one with a swastika on it, would you feel the same way? Because as far as I'm concerned, that's what Trump represents.
Maybe he IS that teacher.
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Sean O'Hara already addressed this on the last page. His words:

Maybe he IS that teacher.
Possible, but only if he is in the process of transitioning.
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The goddamn liberals hate free speech so much that they blocked Milo's free speech week!
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No, wait... it's just that Milo and his organizers are fucking dumb as shit and don't know how to file paperwork for confirming guests and booking venues.
http://www.npr.org/2017/09/22/552427...causing-a-stir

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"Free Speech Week," a four-day, right-wing rally at the University of California, Berkeley, has been called off, student organizers of the event tell member station KQED.

The event fell apart after the co-organizers — The Berkeley Patriot, an online publication, and Yiannopoulos — failed to confirm the guest list and book multiple indoor venues on campus.
what a joke these people are
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The goddamn liberals hate free speech so much that they blocked Milo's free speech week!
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No, wait... it's just that Milo and his organizers are fucking dumb as shit and don't know how to file paperwork for confirming guests and booking venues.
http://www.npr.org/2017/09/22/552427...causing-a-stir



what a joke these people are

If lack of proper paperwork is the real reason for the cancellation, then they can just reschedule at a future date.

When Milo gives the press conference to explain why his speech was cancelled, he should just go ahead and give the speech at the press conference. Way more cameras, way more media attention.
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When Milo gives the press conference to explain why his speech was cancelled,
Calling it now: He'll twist the story to blame liberals, political correctness, and maybe cultural marxism, deflecting from the FACT that he and his co-organizers were too inept to get their shit together like every other event organizer at every other university.
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*sad trombone*

Right-wing Berkeley ‘Free Speech Week’ lasted under 20 minutes — but that was the plan all along
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/righ...all-along/amp/

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After months of promotion, the right-wing “Free Speech Week” at the University of California at Berkeley completely fizzled. Now, newly uncovered emails suggest that organizers planned for the event to fail “from the get-go."

Yiannopoulos, said CBS, “blew kisses, posed for selfies and led a rendition of ‘The Star Spangled Banner’ before leaving. The appearance lasted less than a half hour before the crowds dispersed.”

On Saturday morning, Wintrich told Mogulof, “It was known that they didn’t intend to actually go through with it last week, and completely decided on Wednesday.”

“Wait, whoah, hold on a second,” replied Mogulof. “What, exactly, are you saying? What were you told by MILO Inc? Was it a set-up from the get-go?”

“Yes,” Wintrich replied.
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Cal State Bakersfield hates free speech so much that they want College Republicans to foot the bill!

College Republicans poised to sue CSUB to bring Milo Yiannopoulos to Bakersfield
http://www.bakersfield.com/news/coll...56ba8eccf.html
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Unless the university approves Yiannopoulos’ speaking engagement on Oct. 25 in the Icardo Center, the letter states, it will have violated the CSUB College Republicans' constitutional rights.

Becker's letter demands that CSUB officials immediately reverse a decision that the Icardo Center on campus is off-limits for the event due to a “commercial use” policy that states, “Use of university facilities for commercial purposes is restricted.”

CSUB considers it commercial, Becker said, because the College Republicans want to sell tickets to fund the $20,000 speaker's fee.

In a phone interview, Becker said that the CSUB College Republican group wants to sell tickets to the event to cover the $20,000 speaker fee.

CSUB is calling that a commercial event and saying it can’t be held in the Icardo Center, he said. The College Republicans organization has to keep the event free to the public or find another venue.

A copy of CSUB's facilities use policies obtained by The Californian shows that the university restricts the use of campus facilities for commercial events.

“I'm not at all arguing he shouldn't be allowed to speak here. I'm arguing that campus policy means we don't have to pay for him. Period. We don't have to pay for anything even remotely like him, we didn't pay for Biden, we didn't pay for the man who blew Watergate when he came and spoke, we wouldn't pay for Trump. Clubs don't get to do this. That's it. That is all I'm saying,” she wrote.
The solution, clearly, is for Milo "I don't pay my employees" Y. to waive his fee. I wonder what the likelihood of that happening might be...
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In this video, a social justice warrior spends nine minutes explaining why she stole a hat from a Trump supporter.

The thief takes the hat to campus authorities, thinking that they will take her side.

But they don’t. Instead, they take the side of the hat owner, get him his hat back, and call the campus police.

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There Is No Free Speech Crisis On Campus

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisla.../#3b45556728cb
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What a surprise, all the outrage about free speech on college campus is a right wing boogeyman funded by right wing ghouls who only value free speech as long as it works for them.
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Well, I'm glad that we have Chris Ladd to give us the absolute answer on this issue. Thread should be closed now. It's no doubt that that was the most fair and balanced commentary I've seen.
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There Is No Free Speech Crisis On Campus

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisla.../#3b45556728cb
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Having lost the battle of persuasion, and largely swept from the campus environment, right wing speakers have to be foisted onto universities from the outside. When characters like Ann Coulter, Milo Yiannopoulos, and Charles Murray appear on campus, their appearances are funded by extremist donors and their events are orchestrated by outside groups. Finding students among the organizers, attendees, protestors, or counter-protestors is a challenge. This is theater and the university is a prop.
I absolutely agree with this, but I'm not so short sighted to only think about what has happened in the last 9 months. In my corner of the country this has been going on for at least 15 years. The most prominent events are/were targeting any speaker who advocated for Israel's right to exist. Violent protest and legal action repeatedly occurred. People as benign as Dennis Prager have had appearances cancelled.
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In a statement Joseph Castro, president of California State University, Fresno, said the school's policy on free speech is clear.

"Free speech on campus is not limited to a 'free speech zone' or any other narrowly defined area," he said. "Those disagreeing with the students' message have a right to their own speech, but they do not have the right to erase or stifle someone else's speech under the guise of their own right to free speech."
Maybe there's no "crisis" but there is this d-bag.
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In this video, a social justice warrior spends nine minutes explaining why she stole a hat from a Trump supporter.

The thief takes the hat to campus authorities, thinking that they will take her side.

But they don’t. Instead, they take the side of the hat owner, get him his hat back, and call the campus police.


Here's some new info.

Originally, the owner of the hat was not planning to press charges.

However, after the thief put a video online where she encouraged other people to steal people's Trump hats, the owner of the hat changed his mind, and is pressing charges. The thief could be charged with a felony,

Meanwhile, the thief continues to claim that she is the victim. And her friends are demanding that the school pay for a safe place for her and her family to live, as well as pay for the cost of her current residence.

I'm no legal expert. It seems to me that felony seems kind of severe for stealing someone's hat. However, the fact that she has gone online and incited other people to steal hats makes me have no problem with her getting a felony charge. She still shows no remorse for what she has done, and, on the contrary, seems to be quite proud of it. That's a shame. I think she just ruined any chance she had of living a decent life, and getting a college education.


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...ce_system.html

Social Justice Warrior who stole MAGA hat to face justice system

October 5, 2017

Last week, a remarkable video was seen by millions of viewers on YouTube, showing a UC Riverside student stealing a MAGA hat and refusing to give it back. I wrote about it here, as a symptom an actual, serious, long-term revolutionary movement underway in the United States. The progressive cant uttered by the student, identified now as Edith Masias, reveals the brainwashing she has received: a mindset that utterly rejects the laws and customs of society.

Now, the victim of the theft, Matthew Vitale, who debates her on the video, has filed charges against her, and because of her subsequent actions, the charges may rise to the level of felony. Milo Yiannopoulos’s site Milo reports :

Vitale, a member of UC Riverside College Republicans, says he has decided to press criminal theft charges against her. He had first declined to press charges after being told it would only be a misdemeanor, but decided later to do so after Macias herself uploaded a video on Facebook titled #SnatchAHat, which showed her grabbing the hat off his head.

“’Make America Great Again’ coded ‘Continue the Genocide of POC’. You feel safe cuz you got the cops and politicians on your side. Youre not safe… just saying. We need to make racists scared,” wrote Macias in a seemingly-illiterate caption that accompanied the video.


Vitale was informed by campus police that the new evidence raises it to a felony theft charge. Speaking to The College Fix on Monday, Vitale said he wanted to take a stand.

“I do want to send a message,” Vitale said. “I am not vindictive, I am not vengeful, but people especially in my generation need to realize you can’t do things like this because you don’t like what someone is saying or wearing.”

“Free speech is under attack on campus,” he added. “As cliche as it sounds, the facts of our laws and our Constitution … don’t care about what you feel. For millennials everywhere who believe their feelings give them the right to step on the rights of others — you are sadly misguided. That is not the real world.”


Like any bully, Masias is shocked and outraged that her victim dares to fight back and cries out that she is the real victim. Even more comically, her supporters are demanding the university and the taxpayers fund her living costs:

Edith Macias’ friends have responded by rallying to her defense, demanding that the college protect her from any charges and even “pay for alternate housing accommodations for Macias and their family while simultaneously covering their current housing costs in order to keep them safe from threats of harm.”

As the statement implies, Macias identifies with the pronouns “they/them.”


I certainly hope that Ms. Masias’s next cause will be “mass incarceration,” and that she will emerge as its poster child, a role she will occupy for many, many years. I can hardly wait for Democrat politicians to be asked to defend her.
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The Los Angeles affiliate of CBS News is covering this. Wow!

This is actually from last week, but I just found it:


http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/...ans-trump-hat/

Woman Snatches College Student’s Trump Hat, Erupts Into Anti-Trump Rant

September 29, 2017

RIVERSIDE (CBSLA) — A UC Riverside student recorded video of a woman who snatched his pro-President Trump hat and went on an anti-Trump rant.

“This is genocide homeboy….Look at the kind a sh*t he’s wearing,” Edith Macias says after snatching the hat in the video.

Matthew Vitale and Macias go at it – back and forth – the ugly confrontation ends up in the student services office.

Macias: “You know what this represents? This represents genocide. Genocide of a bunch of people – look at what he’s wearing in front of a group of people.”

Vitale: “This is mine. You do not get to take other people’s property that is legally theirs in this country.”

The hat dispute happened at a student organization retreat.

“Everything was fine until this girl walked up to me and literally – just went like that and took the hat,” Vitale said.

The woman who stole the hat posted video of herself grabbing it, and then running off. You can see Vitale giving chase in the video. University officials say they want all students to respect free speech.

“I want all of our students to be able to express their opinions,” UCR Interim Provost/Executive Vice Chancellor Cindy Larve said. “Just because someone says something you don’t like, they have a right under the constitution to express that opinion.”

“The majority of people are of color in this campus and you let him wear this sh*t,” Macias said in the video.

Vitale got his hat back when police were called.

“I respect her opinion. She has her opinion…..whatever sources and life experience… that’s ok. I have my opinion. That should be ok too.”

CBSLA reached out to the woman in the video via social media – and did not hear back.
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