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Old 07-02-15, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
I don't know if the Duke boys were racist or not. Where there ever even black characters on that show? (Not counting the two-parter where they went to Harlem and solved crimes with Scatman Crothers).

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Old 07-02-15, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
I don't know if the Duke boys were racist or not.
They weren't. They were just good old boys, never meaning no harm.
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The show's been off the air for 30 years and just now is being thrown around as a pop-culture racism litmus test?

They better keep their goddamn government hands off of my Medicare...
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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy View Post
The show's been off the air for 30 years and just now is being thrown around as a pop-culture racism litmus test?


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Old 07-02-15, 03:08 PM
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The ONLY Flag I'll pledge allegiance too these days is the RBG Flag this awesome Black Woman is holding.

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Uh...Robo, didn't you omit a word from your last sentence?

Edit: Dangit! You edited while I was typing, and I cry foul. Anti-white privilege!
Old 07-02-15, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by creekdipper View Post
Uh...Robo, didn't you omit a word from your last sentence?

Edit: Dangit! You edited while I was typing, and I cry foul. Anti-white privilege!
I omitted a whole sentence after realizing it may be too harsh.

But here it is...

All other flags can kiss my ass.
Old 07-02-15, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Draven View Post
So they have to show Dukes of Hazzard now or they are cowards?
They can do what they want. But I hardly consider their choice any kind of brave choice. I just feel people shouldn't be afraid of their past. Suppressing old cartoons and shows is not culturally sensitive, it's sweeping shit under the rug.

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Old 07-02-15, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo View Post
I omitted a whole sentence after realizing it may be too harsh.

But here it is...
I still wanted it to sound more like Jim Brown, Richard Roundtree, or Pryor! Or Jim Brown. Or even Chappelle.

But it is funny even though you didn't include "black" re: your derriere.
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Originally Posted by Mabuse View Post
They can do what they want. But I hardly consider their choice any kind of brave choice. I just feel people shouldn't be afraid of their past. Suppressing old cartoons and shows is not culturally sensitive, it's sweeping shit under the rug.
I'm with you if it went so far as to destroy the negatives. For example, I don't think those old racist Looney Tunes cartoons should be thrown in a fire. I'm all for preservation for historical reasons. But I don't think Cartoon Network should be called "cowardly" if they decide not to show them on TV.

Same thing here - throw the Dukes of Hazzard show in a museum, but I firmly believe a network has the right to choose not to show it any longer.
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Were TV land ratings dropping during the Dukes of Hazzard time slot?

If yes, by all means, replace that show with something that will generate higher ratings.

But if some TV executive is terrified of being a hashtag for showing Alice** reruns and pulls those shows out of fear, is that the kind of society you want to live in?

** One of the Characters on Alice, Jolene Hunnicutt, is a distant relative of Boss Hogg. In fact, Sorrell Booke appeared in one episode of Alice and he tried to buy Mel's Diner. Since the two shows are part of the same universe, shouldn't Alice have to be yanked from the airwaves, too? Do we want to risk some impressionable youth seeing that one episode of Alice where Boss Hogg makes an appearance and be reminded of the existence of another show set in the same universe that featured a Dodge Charger with an offensive symbol on it? WHY WON'T YOU THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?
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Originally Posted by Mabuse View Post
They can do what they want. But I hardly consider their choice any kind of brave choice. I just feel people shouldn't be afraid of their past. Suppressing old cartoons and shows is not culturally sensitive, it's sweeping shit under the rug.
I thought they were just experiencing a spontaneous outbreak of good taste...
Old 07-02-15, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RoyalTea View Post
** One of the Characters on Alice, Jolene Hunnicutt, is a distant relative of Boss Hogg. In fact, Sorrell Booke appeared in one episode of Alice and he tried to buy Mel's Diner. Since the two shows are part of the same universe, shouldn't Alice have to be yanked from the airwaves, too? Do we want to risk some impressionable youth seeing that one episode of Alice where Boss Hogg makes an appearance and be reminded of the existence of another show set in the same universe that featured a Dodge Charger with an offensive symbol on it? WHY WON'T YOU THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?
It has been proven that everything on television takes place in the mind of an autistic child from St. Elsewhere.
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Shows like "Dukes of Hazzard" and contemporaneous movies like SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT and EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE were a racial cultural phenomenon on the order of Blaxploitation. I would argue, in fact, that they were indeed a veiled response to Blaxploitation and the anti-white rhetoric featured in many of those movies--or at least in the ads for them (BLACK GUNN: "For every drop of black blood spilled, a white man pays"). Ironically, while Reynolds and Eastwood were making Hicksploitation, all the stars of Blaxploitation went back to sidekick and subservient roles or they went to Italy, like Fred Williamson. For instance, Robert Hooks played a small role as the bartender on the downed luxury jet in AIRPORT '77, just four years after TROUBLE MAN, and he spends most of his scenes wounded and grimacing in pain.
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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum View Post
Shows like "Dukes of Hazzard" and contemporaneous movies like SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT and EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE were a racial cultural phenomenon on the order of Blaxploitation.
Except that in Smokey and the Bandit, it was the villain who was the racist hick, not the heroes in their Confederate-flag adorned car.
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Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara View Post
Except that in Smokey and the Bandit, it was the villain who was the racist hick, not the heroes in their Confederate-flag adorned car.
The Pontiac Trans Am from S&TB was not adorned with a Treason Flag.
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Originally Posted by crazyronin View Post
The Pontiac Trans Am from S&TB was not adorned with a Treason Flag.
No?


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It is "adorned" the same way every car was legally required to be in Georgia from 1977 to 1981. They would only give Jawjuhns one number plate to keep Cletus from taking the front plate and put it on the back of a different shitbox.

So, no. Not adorned.
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And furthermore, that's not the Confederate Battle Flag, that is (or more precisely was) the flag of the State of Georgia. The actual state flags of the South all contain Confederate iconography. The current flag of the State of Georgia still uses the First CSA flag as its basis. Why we insist on removing the Battle Flag (which represents no state or entity currently in existence) and none of the others (which represent actual current states) baffles me.

Also, I like Ash's assessment of what was it's own unique sub-genre. Dukes of Hazard was definitely television's big dumb version of a popular trend in cinema at the time. And like I've said, eliminating this stuff is just a form of national denial, because we can't come to grips with the fact that as recently as 1980 general audiences across the country were entertained by films and shows that used Confederate iconography to indicate that the characters were anti-authority rugged individuals.

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It is "adorned" the same way every car was legally required to be in Georgia from 1977 to 1981. They would only give Jawjuhns one number plate to keep Cletus from taking the front plate and put it on the back of a different shitbox.

So, no. Not adorned.


That was the Georgia state flag at the time. It's not a mandatory plate, hence: adorned.
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I pledge allegiance to the sRGB flag.

Long live Adobe color space.
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It is "adorned" the same way every car was legally required to be in Georgia from 1977 to 1981. They would only give Jawjuhns one number plate to keep Cletus from taking the front plate and put it on the back of a different shitbox.

So, no. Not adorned.
That's absolutely not true. My family never had that plate on any of our vehicles.
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The current flag of the State of Georgia still uses the First CSA flag as its basis. Why we insist on removing the Battle Flag (which represents no state or entity currently in existence) and none of the others (which represent actual current states) baffles me.
Good point, and I think Mississippi's flag is the most blatant example, the rest not so much. However, did they adopt those flags while going to war with the US, or did they make up these flags after they were defeated?

And like I've said, eliminating this stuff is just a form of national denial, because we can't come to grips with the fact that as recently as 1980 general audiences across the country were entertained by films and shows that used Confederate iconography to indicate that the characters were anti-authority rugged individuals.
Wouldn't it be denial if the nation or majority of the nation denied having produced or ever watching a show about some good ol' boys riding around in a car named The General Lee?
Besides, if enough people clamor for it, they might bring it back to television. Look at Cracker Barrel. They were selling Duck Dynasty merchandise, one of those guys lumps in homosexuals with terrorists, as well as mentioning homosexuality as a sin along with bestiality. Cracker Barrel stopped selling the Duck Dynasty merchandise, the free market spoke and said they were going to boycott Cracker Barrel if they did that, so Cracker Barrel went back to selling the merchandise.

Back to denial, I don't necessarily see it that way. I'm actually interested in watching the Dukes of Hazzard now after reading about it in this thread so much but I see why TV Land or whoever wants to think twice about airing the show. Just like I understand modern TV stations would be particular about not airing ALL the classic Looney Toons and Disney cartoons where black characters are depicted with enormous red lips eating water melons in "Lazy Town," or cartoons where Japanese are shown as buck toothed villains conspiring against the US.
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There's a certain irony to all of this since Dukes of Hazzard seems to be carry a rather liberal message: The two protagonists are described in the theme song a "modern day Robin Hoods" (you know, steal from the rich and give to the poor) and the villains of the show are a greedy, crooked businessman who has bought his way into politics and uses the corrupt police force to further his own personal interests.

The Dukes might as well be Occupy Hazzard going up against Boss Koch.
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Yeah, my very liberal mom let me watch the show and even bought be a Dukes of Hazzard Big Wheel.

Wait, Santa brought me that Big Wheel. He's pretty racist.

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