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Old 09-13-17, 12:58 PM   #5651
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Old 09-13-17, 01:02 PM   #5652
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I would never vote for Trump, but true, if you are including Crazy in the level of dislike then maybe you "dislike" Trump more than me. But in the aspects of whether I would ever vote for him, we are on an equal level.
Not voting for him is a baseline for disliking him. Even some of the other conservatives on this forum dislike Trump and this turn in the GOP than you do.

Not voting for him but then defending most of what he does, and trying to downplay any criticism of him is not disliking him as much as anyone. And it doesn't make someone who dislikes him more than you crazy. Pretty ironic that you whinge about the response conservatives get here but then call anyone to the left of you crazy.

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"An actual nuanced discussion". Rotfl You and your terrorists comrades throw your pee pee at the police.
Yes, an actual nuanced discussion, something you have shown yourself to be wholly incapable of. What a troll.
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Old 09-13-17, 01:14 PM   #5653
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Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

I would have gladly voted for Bernie over Trump, but he wasn't an option.

I only attempt to downplay "some" of the criticism when I think it's getting over done. I also feel it's diluting any real discussion and issues with Trump.

Yes, I also complain when you try to equate conservative or right-wing with nazis or racists.

If we wanted to discuss how to improve the inner cities or reduce the massive crime in Chicago, I'm all for a nuanced discussion about that. I'd start by pouring billions into reducing elementary school class sizes in the poor districts to as small as 6:1 and pay the teachers six figures to get the brightest and most motivated. That would be a great investment and would probably eliminate poverty and crime in a single generation.
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Old 09-13-17, 01:37 PM   #5654
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Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

I have zero idea why I even step into this arena sometimes.

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(Having) the figurehead of our country tacitly approve racism does indeed set a bad example.
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I agree, Trump practically says "Lynch all blacks" every time he speaks. Those teens were clearly manipulated by Trump. Maybe their lawyer is looking into that as a defense. Really, every single crime against minorities can be traced back to Trump.
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Old 09-13-17, 01:49 PM   #5655
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I have zero idea why I even step into this arena sometimes.
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Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

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You are going to call me a racist if I don't think Trump is a nazi? And I'm very much considered a minority and dealt with my own racism and bullying growing up as the only asian in my home town. This is a DVD talk group, you don't have to act like the comment section of breitbart or yahoo news, you can think for yourself and discuss topics rationally. Just take a deep breath.

Kinda like being one of those Hispanics who supported Trump...then got deported anyway huh? Sucks...
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Old 09-13-17, 02:50 PM   #5657
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Kinda like being one of those Hispanics who supported Trump...then got deported anyway huh? Sucks...
Illegals can't vote.
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Old 09-13-17, 02:53 PM   #5658
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I have zero idea why I even step into this arena sometimes.

Good luck on the JV Debate squad, my friend.
You don't think the first reply was implying that the kids were influenced by Trump to lynch that black child?

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Old 09-13-17, 02:58 PM   #5659
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You don't think the first reply was implying that the kids were influenced by Trump to lynch that black child?
Sorry, but as much as you want to believe I was talking about Trump, I wasn't so YOU LOSE!

The response was referring to their parents and relatives. Kids aren't born racist, they learn it from those close to them.
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Illegals can't vote.
Yeah, but their friends and family members can.

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Old 09-13-17, 03:26 PM   #5661
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Sorry, but as much as you want to believe I was talking about Trump, I wasn't so YOU LOSE!

The response was referring to their parents and relatives. Kids aren't born racist, they learn it from those close to them.
oh, all this discussion over a misunderstanding. Then I agree with you. But you did leave it open for interpretation and others agreed with my interpretation.
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oh, all this discussion over a misunderstanding. Then I agree with you. But you did leave it open for interpretation and others agreed with my interpretation.
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Sheriff says we need to protect the white teens because they are just kids. Don't want to ruin their lives over attempted murder.
I was referring to the original post as to how the teens need to be protected. If they do, then maybe the adults (or whoever taught them these hateful beliefs) in their lives need to be held accountable.
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Says who? Anyway, that's why I said "supported" and not "voted for".
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Says who? Anyway, that's why I said "supported" and not "voted for".
The number of illegals that supported Trump has to be a very small group based on his message throughout the campaign. And the majority of these stories about those that got deported usually say stuff like, "he only had 2 DUIs", or "He only had 3 misdemeanors", etc, I've only seen maybe one story about someone without a record being deported. And very likely, these same people were up for deportation under the Obama administration already anyway, it's just a bright spotlight is put on them because of Trump's campaign message.

Oops, there I go again defending the indefensible.
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oh, all this discussion over a misunderstanding. Then I agree with you. But you did leave it open for interpretation and others agreed with my interpretation.
I apologize for my snark, but stand by my pretty mild statement that followed your first response; when the leader of the free world drags his feet after needing to be asked to denounce racism, that sets a bad example that people can learn from.
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Old 09-13-17, 06:33 PM   #5666
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I apologize for my snark, but stand by my pretty mild statement that followed your first response; when the leader of the free world drags his feet after needing to be asked to denounce racism, that sets a bad example that people can learn from.
Trump is a terrible moral compass. There.. we can agree on something.
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The number of illegals that supported Trump has to be a very small group based on his message throughout the campaign. And the majority of these stories about those that got deported usually say stuff like, "he only had 2 DUIs", or "He only had 3 misdemeanors", etc, I've only seen maybe one story about someone without a record being deported. And very likely, these same people were up for deportation under the Obama administration already anyway, it's just a bright spotlight is put on them because of Trump's campaign message.

Oops, there I go again defending the indefensible.
From the article I posted above:

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Since the president took office, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency -- ICE --says it's arrested 21,000 undocumented immigrants, more than 5,000 of whom have no criminal record. That's more than twice as many as the year be
So there's more than the one you've seen.
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Okay, that's surprising, I stand corrected (I knew the number was larger than one though ) I don't know the policies that ICE uses to determine when to deport, and how many were in the pipeline from the previous administration, but, yeah, if the number with no criminal record deportations has doubled from the Obama administration, there must be some unexplained policy change. But it also means that half of them would have been deported anyway regardless of Trump.
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Yeah, Obama was a deportation heavy president too.
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Fans ejected from Fenway Park after hanging ‘Racism is as American as baseball’ banner

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Okay, that's surprising, I stand corrected (I knew the number was larger than one though ) I don't know the policies that ICE uses to determine when to deport, and how many were in the pipeline from the previous administration, but, yeah, if the number with no criminal record deportations has doubled from the Obama administration, there must be some unexplained policy change. But it also means that half of them would have been deported anyway regardless of Trump.
If they are in this country illegally, is that not in fact "criminal"?
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Man to Be Kicked Out of Marines After Unfurling White Supremacist Banner

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Fans?
Maybe they're antifans.

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Man to Be Kicked Out of Marines After Unfurling White Supremacist Banner

http://time.com/4940709/joseph-manni...ederate-rally/
And that is how sanctions are supposed to work if a person has violated a legal provision of his terms of employment.

Note that they didn't get clubs and punch him out. The rules being followed were sufficient without resorting to violence.
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If they are in this country illegally, is that not in fact "criminal"?
"As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present in the United States." Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. __ (2012), slip. op at 15 (citing INS v. Lopez-Mendoza, 468 U. S. 1032, 1038 (1984)).
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