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Old 11-11-13, 05:08 PM
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circulated campaign flyers featuring smiling African-American faces lifted from the Internet

It seems to me that this could pose legal problems.
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So now republicans aren't even pretending they're the better candidate and are bragging that they "tricked" people into voting for them?
Yes, the Houston Community College Board of Trustees election clearly has national implications.
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So now republicans aren't even pretending they're the better candidate and are bragging that they "tricked" people into voting for them?
Funny how you see this as a commentary on the candidate and not the voters. How did he trick them?
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So now republicans aren't even pretending they're the better candidate and are bragging that they "tricked" people into voting for them?

... or perhaps it is an illustration of the intelligence of the voters in that district
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You are correct, the majority of white votes went to McCain in 2008 & Romney in 2012.
While your statement is true, it's very misleading.

2008

Group Obama McCain
RACE
White 43 55
African-American 95 4

2012

Group Obama McCain
RACE
White 39 59
African-American 93 6

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/ele.../voted_08.html

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/ele.../voted_12.html
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Re: White guy wins - voters believed he was black

Ok, I got Queen Latifah as the sassy receptionist coming up with all of the ideas, but I'm on the fence if we should go with Steve Martin or Fred Willard as the guy who won the election. Also... While I first wanted to go with picking a Wayans to pilot this ship, I'm pretty sure Tyler Perry is going to get this. However, I'd go risky and get Stephen Chbosky to helm this. Plus, you might get Tom Savini as the other guy in the election.

Or... TV maybe? Man... if they gave this to Aaron McGruder it'd be epic.
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So the thought here is that black people would only vote for a black candidate and that's OK and we should expect that and be upset if that doesn't happen (assume it's a trick or something) but white people voting for a white candidate are racists and should be ashamed of themselves.

Got it.

And what's a recount going to do? If they punched the ballot like a black person we need to assume they meant to vote for the other guy?
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Re: White guy wins - voters believed he was black

Originally Posted by logrus9 View Post
While your statement is true, it's very misleading.

2008

Group Obama McCain
RACE
White 43 55
African-American 95 4

2012

Group Obama McCain
RACE
White 39 59
African-American 93 6

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/ele.../voted_08.html

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/ele.../voted_12.html
Clearly African American voters are racist
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Originally Posted by grundle View Post
It seems to me that this could pose legal problems.
Yeah, I suspect it could. In theory, all images you find on the internet are copyrighted unless they're in the public domain. Just because you pull up an image from google doesn't mean you can print it out and use it on your fliers. For all of the stink that's made about "illegal downloads," the real issue isn't downloading, it's uploading/distributing/publishing without permission.

I suppose there could also be implications from the people whose images he used if he used them without permission.

Of course, this is an insignificant public office in a local election, so there's probably no money in it for damages, meaning it wouldn't be worth the court fight.
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And what's a recount going to do? If they punched the ballot like a black person we need to assume they meant to vote for the other guy?
He won by 26 votes. Depending upon how many people voted, that seems like a small enough margin for a recount in a legit election, let alone an election won by a lying liar.
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Maybe he's sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from him?
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http://www.chron.com/news/politics/h...nt-4961921.php

Small business owner Dave Wilson was ahead of Austin by 26 votes, based on complete, but unofficial results. A candidate needs to garner a majority of the vote to win. Wilson had 50.1 percent, while Austin got 49.9 percent.
according to my math (and assuming these values aren't rounded off that much), if Wilson won by 26 votes and had 50.1000000000000% of the vote and Austin had 49.9000000000000% of the vote, the final vote tally was 6513-6487.
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Originally Posted by General Zod View Post
So the thought here is that black people would only vote for a black candidate and that's OK and we should expect that and be upset if that doesn't happen (assume it's a trick or something) but white people voting for a white candidate are racists and should be ashamed of themselves.

Got it.

And what's a recount going to do? If they punched the ballot like a black person we need to assume they meant to vote for the other guy?
Black people be votin' like this and white people be all votin' like dis.
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
Yeah, I suspect it could. In theory, all images you find on the internet are copyrighted unless they're in the public domain. Just because you pull up an image from google doesn't mean you can print it out and use it on your fliers. For all of the stink that's made about "illegal downloads," the real issue isn't downloading, it's uploading/distributing/publishing without permission.

I suppose there could also be implications from the people whose images he used if he used them without permission.

Of course, this is an insignificant public office in a local election, so there's probably no money in it for damages, meaning it wouldn't be worth the court fight.
Or he purchased/received permission to use stock images...
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Or he purchased/received permission to use stock images...
but the article said "lifted."

Although the Onion says it was stock images: http://www.theonion.com/articles/whi...-to-be-b,34521

A white conservative won a seat on the Houston Community College Board of Trustees after sending out flyers in his predominantly black neighborhood that showed stock images of African-Americans and included an endorsement by a family member who has the same name as a popular local black politician. What do <i>you</i> think?</p><ul class="amvo-response"><li class="response-1"><div class="picture"><img src="http://o.onionstatic.com/images/10/10318/3x4/148.jpg?0530" class="lazy-loaded" alt="" title="" height="197" width="148"></a></div><div class="response"><p>“Mitt Romney has to be kicking himself right now.”</p><p class="occupation">Buford Grazer
– <br>Auctioneer</p></div></li><li class="response-2"><div class="picture"><a data-prefetch="" href=""><img src="http://o.onionstatic.com/images/10/10319/3x4/148.jpg?0601" class="lazy-loaded" alt="" title="" height="197" width="148"></a></div><div class="response"><p>“Don’t be so naive. No one gets on the Houston Community College Board of Trustees without a few dirty tricks.”</p><p class="occupation">Leah Palevsky
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He never put out to voters that he was white," Austin added in a statement, according to the Houston Chronicle.
Could you imagine that backlash a non black candidate would face if he said after a black person won an election that the black candidate never put out to voters they were black????? This is what happens when uninformed uneducated people are allowed to vote.
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"I don't think it's good for both democracy and the whole concept of fair play," Austin said. "But that was not his intent, apparently."
In other words, "Damn, I wish I woodah thodda dat!"

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The HCC board has been dysfunctional, and some board members have engaged in unethical practices by awarding contracts to relatives, friends and political allies in recent years, damaging the community's trust, said many candidates.

Source: http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news...4959061.php#/0
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Originally Posted by logrus9 View Post
While your statement is true, it's very misleading.

2008

Group Obama McCain
RACE
White 43 55
African-American 95 4

2012

Group Obama McCain
RACE
White 39 59
African-American 93 6

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/ele.../voted_08.html

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/ele.../voted_12.html
Over 50% of white votes went to McCain in 2008 & Romney in 2012.
What did I say that was misleading. Is not majority over 50%?
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And folks say racism is no longer with us? What rose-colored glasses must they be wearing? It's a Jews vs Palestines scenario and that's been going on for, only about 2000 years now and will for 2000 more.

I'm glad the white guy won. I'm also impressed with the stupidity of the black people who voted for him.
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Originally Posted by Jason View Post
So now republicans aren't even pretending they're the better candidate and are bragging that they "tricked" people into voting for them?
How is this a bigger trick than everything that came out of Obama's mouth when he was running. Face it, the person elected is never the same as the person who ran.
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So is our opinion that race doesn't matter, but we should let voters know the race of the person running so that Black people can know who to vote for?
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Pretty much. If the roles were reversed, no one would dare speak a word without fear of being branded a racist. Yet we're supposed to feel sorry for a bunch of uninformed stupid voters who just blindly voted for somebody because they thought they were black.

This reminds me of those videos of blind Obama supporters approached on the street and "tricked" into agreeing with his opponent's viewpoints and disagreeing with Obama's real policies. All you have to do is change the names around and it's amazing how people answer, or is this case, vote.
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Originally Posted by inri222 View Post
Over 50% of white votes went to McCain in 2008 & Romney in 2012.
What did I say that was misleading. Is not majority over 50%?
Do you not see the disparity between the white vote between the candidates and the black vote?
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Originally Posted by RoyalTea View Post
He won by 26 votes. Depending upon how many people voted, that seems like a small enough margin for a recount in a legit election, let alone an election won by a lying liar.
??? How did he "lie"? He never said that he was black. I thought that his opponents are all about "inclusion"...he could have just been reaching out to minorities. Or he might have (correctly, it seems) assumed that dumb, racist people would leap to conclusions from the pictures and vote in a racist manner. However, how many voters have actually come forth to complain that they were "tricked" and "lied to"? Seems that it would take a pretty shameless, lazy person to actually admit that he/she only voted for him based upon his race rather than on his policies or qualifications.

Which sort of indicates what his opponent thinks about his would-be supporters.

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So now republicans aren't even pretending they're the better candidate and are bragging that they "tricked" people into voting for them?
Ummm...yeah. The results prove that Wilson was a better candidate because he exploited the shameless race-baiting tactics of the opposing party. If anything, he did a service to his community by exposing the callousness demonstrated by the voting public. People always say they want their leaders to be smarter than them...guess they got what they wanted.

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So is our opinion that race doesn't matter, but we should let voters know the race of the person running so that Black people can know who to vote for?
Let's not blame this all on black voters. You have all the whites suffering from liberal guilt along with the browns, reds, yellows, pinks, purples, and all the other colors of the rainbow.

Now, if someone could only figure out how to exploit the albino bloc.

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