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Evangelism - Positive and Negative

Old 09-09-13, 06:18 PM
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Evangelism - Positive and Negative

I'm mostly curious to see the results of the poll.

Wikipedia defines Evangelism as: "...the preaching of the Christian Gospel or the practice of relaying information about a particular set of beliefs to others with the object of conversion. The term is not restricted to any particular Christian tradition, and should not be confused with Evangelicalism, a common term for a wide range of "Evangelical" Protestant churches and groups."

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I am generally able to get along with folks who are open about their religion. I don't need to get into a major discussion with those folks necessarily, but I've had coworkers who had bible study during lunch hour and would invite other coworkers and guys who I've played ball with who would invite me to their church and such. To me it becomes an issue when Evangelicals disrespect private property signs and no solicitation signs. I've had some folks do this and send their kids to the door because people are less likely to tell kids they're violating a no solicitation rule. To me there's a polite way of doing it and an impolite way of doing it.
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Re: Evangelism - Positive and Negative

I was thinking "Jesus Christ, another religion thread!" But this could be interesting.

My answer: No.
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I was thinking "Jesus Christ, another religion thread!" But this could be interesting.
That's the nicest thing anyone's said to me all week.
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My answer would be no. I was raised as a sort-of member of the United Methodist Church, and if I ever decided to start attending again, I would most likely return there. I may not agree with all of their positions, but I generally see them as non-extremist and not as interested in chumming up political discord to fill pews.
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I was thinking "Jesus Christ, another religion thread!" But this could be interesting.

My answer: No.
Taking God's name in vain is a sin.

Taking someone else's god's name in vain is kind of pointless. You're an electrical engineer, so perhaps you ought to take Faraday's name in vain.
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I'm a Roman Catholic by birth. I don't go to church very often, but I did attend a church that is right across the street from me and wound up leaving when the priest in his sermon said it was a Catholic's job to have more children because the Muslims were having too many. I never went back to that church after a comment like that.
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The walking up to complete strangers and guilting them is one thing that annoys me. Had that happen to me in college by a nice Korean girl who told me I was a little lost sheep unless I joined her church group and I better remember that.
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Taking God's name in vain is a sin.

Taking someone else's god's name in vain is kind of pointless. You're an electrical engineer, so perhaps you ought to take Faraday's name in vain.
Yeah, well I'm a hatetheist. What do you expect?
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Has Evangelism worked on you? Sorry, but
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Yeah, well I'm a hatetheist. What do you expect?
I prefer anti-theist personally.
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I was raised Jewish. When I was about 6 years old, a boy who lived down the street would not be my friend because I refused to swear that Jesus Christ died on the cross. I don't think I even understood what that meant at the time, but I wouldn't so swear and Randy stopped being my friend.

I'm not a fan of evangelism, nor am I a fan of the idea that if someone doesn't share my unprovable beliefs about metaphysics or spirituality that there must necessarily be a gulf between us.
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I was raised Jewish. When I was about 6 years old, a boy who lived down the street would not be my friend because I refused to swear that Jesus Christ died on the cross. I don't think I even understood what that meant at the time, but I wouldn't so swear and Randy stopped being my friend.
My Best Man at my wedding is my best friend in the world and he's Jewish. I think there were obviously some weird things for him since we had our wedding in a church, but I so appreciate him doing it. He's the same guy who told me about this site DVDTalk where you can get some really awesome deals on movies.

I'm very live and let live when it comes to religion.
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Answer: No.

I grew up in a very religious family. I had to go to Sunday School every Sunday, Sunday evening service, Wednesday evening service, etc. I was dragged to countless "old time church revivals." None of it ever worked on me. I never believed in religion period.

I went off to college and was more than happy to be done with it all. My grandmother still occasionally goes on a sermon trying to get me to become a Christian, but I just zone out and start day dreaming when she goes off on those spiels. Heck, if you couldn't brainwash me as a child, you certainly aren't going to do it now when I'm an adult.

Back in March I got severely sick with pneumonia. I was in the hospital for 12 days, 3 of those days in ICU. I almost died actually. I remember being there in the ICU on my deathbed literally, and my family was trying to get me to repent and become a Christian before it was too late. I just rolled my eyes, and was like "Oh lord quit nagging me and let me die in peace."
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Taking someone else's god's name in vain is kind of pointless. You're an electrical engineer, so perhaps you ought to take Faraday's name in vain.
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My Best Man at my wedding is my best friend in the world and he's Jewish. I think there were obviously some weird things for him since we had our wedding in a church, but I so appreciate him doing it. He's the same guy who told me about this site DVDTalk where you can get some really awesome deals on movies.
You're lucky the minister didn't ban him from attending the service. I was best man at my friend's wedding. He (a catholic) married a baptist, and the hillbilly preacher wouldn't even let the priest (a family friend) attend the service as a guest.
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He's the same guy who told me about this site DVDTalk where you can get some really awesome deals on movies.
So evangelism does work!
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I used to live in an area with a lot of Mormon missionaries. They were always coming to my door, and I got sick of it, but telling them to leave me alone didn't stop new guys from coming.

So eventually I decided to take a different approach. I bought a copy of The Satanic Bible and left it on my coffee table. When the Mormons came to the door, I would be very enthusiastic, invite them in, get them some lemonade, etc.

I'd listen to their whole spiel about their beliefs, and then when they finished, I'd say, "Thanks for that. Now let me tell you about MY beliefs" and I'd pick up the Satanic Bible and start talking about Satanism. Immediately the Mormons would freak out and either excuse themselves or berate me because my soul would be going to Hell or the Outer Darkness or whatever. I'd always act hurt at their response and say, "I don't understand. I listened to what you believe in. Why won't you give the same courtesy?"

After doing this three times, the word got out, and I never was bothered by Mormons ever again.

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I used to live in an area with a lot of Mormon missionaries. They were always coming with my door
Doesn't surprise me.
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I used to live in an area with a lot of Mormon missionaries. They were always coming with my door, and I got sick of it, but telling them to leave me alone didn't stop new guys from coming.

So eventually I decided to take a different approach. I bought a copy of The Satanic Bible and left it on my coffee table. When the Mormons came to the door, I would be very enthusiastic, invite them in, get them some lemonade, etc.

I'd listen to their whole spiel about their beliefs, and then when they finished, I'd say, "Thanks for that. Now let me tell you about MY beliefs" and I'd pick up the Satanic Bible and start talking about Satanism. Immediately the Mormons would freak out and either excuse themselves or berate me because my soul would be going to Hell or the Outer Darkness or whatever. I'd always act hurt at their response and say, "I don't understand. I listened to what you believe in. Why won't you give the same courtesy?"

After doing this three times, the word got out, and I never was bothered by Mormons ever again.
You sure you're not just ripping off a scene from "Orgazmo"?
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I never thought to cast any of them in porn. What a fool I am!
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I used to go to Salt Lake City several times a year. One trip I took the tour of Temple Square, at the end they gave me a card to fill out with my contact information. I knew that if I turned in the card missionaries would be a calling so I filled out the card and handed it in. A month later I didn't get a visit but my co-worker did.
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The walking up to complete strangers and guilting them is one thing that annoys me. Had that happen to me in college by a nice Korean girl who told me I was a little lost sheep unless I joined her church group and I better remember that.
Yeah, that's my main beef with Kirk Cameron's ministry, because he and Ray Comfort use the same script with everyone on their TV show. Adding further insult is the title "Way of the Master", saying that Jesus behaved in such a manner, when He didn't. Jesus invited people to hear Him, and He didn't deny the reality of eternal consequences for temporal choices...but He also knew that fear only forms a temporary and weak alliance in the human heart. Jesus did discuss things like hell, but rarely (if ever) with the masses. The most prominent times were His discussions with hypocritical religious leaders like the Pharisees, even calling them "a generation of vipers" and "children of your father Satan". People will not bow their knee to God if they believe He hates them, or doesn't love them. Jesus told the whole truth in ways He knew were sufficient for His audience, and left their responses in their own hands.

As for me, I'm not sure what "label" would best apply to my super-religious childhood. My aunt and uncle were my primary source of spiritual illustration, but they were always angry with each other and outsiders. They were married for almost 30 years, until she passed away in 2003...and I don't remember one moment of laughter they shared, or a single smile. They spoke about God's purity and righteousness all the time, and strictly monitored what we watched on TV, to the point that TBN made up 90% of our entertainment for several years. My aunt even tried to convince me that the Ninja Turtles were Satanic at one point...I kid you not.

Some would ask me, "why would you ever want to be the same kind of person as they were?", and my answer is simple: "I don't". They were far more concerned with the law than loving people, and it still makes me sad to think about it. However, their approach doesn't automatically mean God's laws and standards are also wrong. They simply didn't know how to combine that aspect of Christianity with God's selfless love.

What really turned me back toward God were some painful consequences of choosing to rebel against Him. I'd battled a porn addiction for 9 years, and had committed both fornication and adultery with the same woman. I was really messed up for a long time, and a friend prayed with me when I hit "rock bottom". It was a struggle for a long time, and still is on some days. I was praying about 3 years ago for God to give me something besides Bible stories and fading emotions as a foundation for my trusting Him, and not long after, I came across one of Frank Turek's clips on YouTube. I'd never heard anyone explain why Christianity actually made historical sense, and it really resonated with me. I read his book "I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist", plus Lee Strobel's "The Case for Christ", and I believe God used them both to make me stronger.

Here's the clip that changed my walk with God; for any true seekers, I hope you'll understand.

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I was baptized Catholic but I stopped being religious at a young age. Some of my friends and classmates would try to get me to go to church in order to do conformation and first communion but I refused. I dropped Catholicism because all the other religions out there made me ask myself "Who is right?" In addition to the self-rightiousness, the hatred between religions (Northern Ireland, Middle East, etc...) was a real turn off. In the early 80's I got into metal and punk so I discovered a whole new outlook on life without religion and I have not turned back since.
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That's the nicest thing anyone's said to me all week.
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