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Under the new Common Core, 3 x 4 = 11

Old 08-18-13, 11:35 AM
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Under the new Common Core, 3 x 4 = 11

This is beyond ridiculous.

Also, here's an earlier article about how Obama wants public schools to replace "Catcher in the Rye" with a book window insulation.



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Obama math: under new Common Core, 3 x 4 = 11

August 18, 2013

Quick: what’s 3 x 4?

If you said 11 — or, hell, if you said 7, pi, or infinity squared — that’s just fine under the Common Core, the new national curriculum that the Obama administration will impose on American public school students this fall.

In a pretty amazing YouTube video, Amanda August, a curriculum coordinator in a suburb of Chicago called Grayslake, explains that getting the right answer in math just doesn’t matter as long as kids can explain the necessarily faulty reasoning they used to get to that wrong answer.

“Even if they said, ’3 x 4 was 11,’ if they were able to explain their reasoning and explain how they came up with their answer really in, umm, words and oral explanation, and they showed it in the picture but they just got the final number wrong, we’re really more focused on the how,” August says in the video.

When someone in the audience (presumably a parent, but it’s not certain) asks if teachers will be, you know, correcting students who don’t know rudimentary arithmetic instantly, August makes another meandering, longwinded statement.

“We want our students to compute correctly but the emphasis is really moving more towards the explanation, and the how, and the why, and ‘can I really talk through the procedures that I went through to get this answer,’” August details. “And not just knowing that it’s 12, but why is it 12? How do I know that?”




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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2271229.html

Common Core Nonfiction Reading Standards Mark The End Of Literature, English Teachers Say

December 10, 2013

Concern is growing among teachers and parents that literary classics will go the way of the dinosaurs under a set of new national curricular standards.

The Common Core State Standards, academic benchmarks that have been adopted by 46 states, call for 12th grade reading to be 70 percent nonfiction, or "informational texts" -- gradually stepping up from the 50 percent nonfiction reading required of elementary school students.

The Common Core standards focus on teaching fewer subjects in greater depth, replacing a melange of educational expectations that vary wildly across districts and states. Proponents of the standards, like the National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers, say too many students are not college or career-ready because they have suffered from years of easy reading and poor training in synthesizing more complex reading materials.

But the new guidelines are increasingly worrying English-lovers and English teachers, who feel they must replace literary greats like The Great Gatsby and Catcher in the Rye with Common Core-suggested "exemplars," like the Environmental Protection Agency's Recommended Levels of Insulation and the California Invasive Plant Council's Invasive Plant Inventory.

Jamie Highfill, an eighth-grade English teacher at Woodland Junior High School in Fayetteville, Ark., and 2011 Arkansas Teacher of the Year, told the Washington Post she's already had to drop short stories and a favorite literary unit to make time for essays by Malcolm Gladwell from his social behavior book The Tipping Point.

“I’m struggling with this, and my students are struggling,” Highfill told the Post. “With informational text, there isn’t that human connection that you get with literature. And the kids are shutting down. They’re getting bored. I’m seeing more behavior problems in my classroom than I’ve ever seen.”

David Coleman, who headed the process of writing the standards, told the Post that principals and teachers are misreading the guidelines. The boost in informational texts, he says, is intended across disciplines: When social studies, science and math teachers increase nonfiction and informational reading assignments, English teachers won't have to alter their literature lessons.

But that intent is often unrealized in practice. In a paper by the Pioneer Institute, a Boston-based public policy think tank that is critical of the Common Core, language arts experts Sandra Stotsky and Mark Bauerlein claim that literature will inevitably have a lesser presence in curricula, as English teachers remain the ones held accountable for meeting reading standards in fiction and nonfiction alike.

"It's hard to imagine that low reading scores in a school district will force grade 11 government/history and science teachers to devote more time to reading instruction," Stotsky and Bauerlein wrote.

They also argue that the rush to switch from literature to informational texts is short-sighted, as the skills students develop in understanding complex literature are crucial to college learning and careers. Bauerlein told Education Week the problem worsens when teachers make "weak" nonfiction text choices.

"If we could ensure that the kinds of stuff they're choosing are essays by [Ralph Waldo] Emerson or Booker T. Washington's Up From Slavery, then that would be wonderful," he said. "Those are complex texts, with the literary features that make students better readers in college."

Results from the National Center for Education Statistics' analysis of fourth- and eighth-grade vocabulary scores from 2009 and 2011 reading comprehension exams found that even the highest-scoring students on average couldn't perform above 67 percent. National Assessment Governing Board Executive Director Cornelia Orr called the vocabulary results a "crisis" in education.

Compounding that data is a March report by Renaissance Learning, Inc. revealing that American high school students are reading books intended for children at levels far below those appropriate for teens. A compilation of the top 40 books read by students in grades 9 through 12 showed that the average text's reading level was 5.3 -- barely above the fifth grade.
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I get the idea of being scored on "show your work" over the final answer, this is especially true in classes like Engineering Mathematics II where answers can fill a half dozen pages with ease. But I think they chose a terrible example there. Multiplication and addition are basics, there's tables for them, you can't "show your work" unless you start putting decimal points in it.

4 x 3 = 3 + 3 +3 + 3 = 12, there is no room for error on that one.
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In ObamaWorld, there is always room for error.
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Ha, Yahoo syndicated that story from The Daily Caller. Isn't that the bow wearing tie douche Tucker Carlson's site?

Awesome headline considering the President is not mentioned in the story itself.
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It makes perfect sense that certain people would be upset about a curriculum that focuses more on analysis and reasoning than on rote memorization of spoon-fed facts.
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The Common Core has nothing to do with the Obama administration. I've retitled the thread to reflect that.
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The Common Core has nothing to do with the Obama administration. I've retitled the thread to reflect that.
But how can grundle keep posting threads if the titles are changed for something as trivial as accuracy?

That said, I do I wish government would let teachers decide how to effectively teach, but maybe that's just me.
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Better question: why do they let him keep posting threads?
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But how can grundle keep posting threads if the titles are changed for something as trivial as accuracy?

That said, I do I wish government would let teachers decide how to effectively teach, but maybe that's just me.
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Re: Under the new Common Core, 3 x 4 = 11

Results from the National Center for Education Statistics' analysis of fourth- and eighth-grade vocabulary scores from 2009 and 2011 reading comprehension exams found that even the highest-scoring students on average couldn't perform above 67 percent. National Assessment Governing Board Executive Director Cornelia Orr called the vocabulary results a "crisis" in education.

Compounding that data is a March report by Renaissance Learning, Inc. revealing that American high school students are reading books intended for children at levels far below those appropriate for teens. A compilation of the top 40 books read by students in grades 9 through 12 showed that the average text's reading level was 5.3 -- barely above the fifth grade.
Of course, it's interesting to note the education level target of a typical cable news segment.

Regardless, it doesn't mean much to be book smart.

Hell, I live in a city that loves to be book smart...but the people are complete idiots when it comes to common sense. As long as you wear fake glasses, hold a book in one hand and an expensive coffee in the other...you're a Smarty.

In addition, most jobs don't require math, and it seems to me the entire employment sector is heading towards mindless work anyway, so why be a fucking Einstein when more than likely you'll be serving refried beans for most of your life.

I can already see where this country is headed. Not too bright of a future.
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Yea, we read at a 5th grade level.

I don't recall reading a book in Jr High or High School outside of Slaughterhouse Five.
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You guys are just minions keeping the threads you complain about thriving.
...and you didn't just post in here too?
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A is A.
Unless of course it is 10...
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This would make a great Wikipedia entry.
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thank you Obama.
We need less Catcher in the Rye hipsters graduating and more people ready to install windows and siding. I am serious.
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...and you didn't just post in here too?
I'm not complaining about him. He gives this forum some of the little personality it has.
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I'm not complaining about him. He gives this forum some of the little personality it has.
Oddly enough, his political views seem to line up pretty neatly with your own.
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What I want to know is why he changed the date of the HuffPo article to make it look like it's from the future.
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What I want to know is why he changed the date of the HuffPo article to make it look like it's from the future.
grundle invented the future.
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It makes perfect sense that certain people would be upset about a curriculum that focuses more on analysis and reasoning than on rote memorization of spoon-fed facts.
Heaven forbid people learn from their mistakes. That would remove the fun of yelling WRONG! and making them feel stupid. After all, like everything else in the world except biology, school is the survival of the fittest.
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Oddly enough, his political views seem to line up pretty neatly with your own.
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