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View Poll Results: Assuming it's between consenting adults, which types of marriage should be legal?
Marriage legal for gays, incestuous couples & polygamists
44.00%
Marriage legal for gays & incestuous couples, illegal for polygamists
2.67%
Marriage legal for gays & polygamists, illegal for incestuous couples
16.00%
Marriage legal for incestuous couples & polygamists, illegal for gays
1.33%
Marriage legal for gays, illegal for incestuous couples & polygamists
21.33%
Marriage legal for incestuous couples, illegal for gays & polygamists
1.33%
Marriage legal for polygamists, illegal for gays & incestuous couples
1.33%
Marriage illegal for gays, incestuous couples & polygamists
4.00%
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Polling Views on Non-Traditional Marriages

Old 07-03-13, 08:41 PM
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The Catholic church doesn't support homosexuality. Besides love thy neighbor doesn't mean love thy neighbor by accepting and supporting their sinful lifestyle.
Suppose Jesus comes back to Earth tomorrow. He sees a funeral. He sees people full of grief. He sees the Westboro Baptist Church picketing the funeral. What do you think Jesus says to those protesters?
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You mean the same book that clearly says we should love our neighbors and treat everyone with love and respect? Funny I can't find one single verse where God mentions that sex with a man and a man is natural and good.

The point is you can warp the Bible to meet any agenda if you focus on a few passages. But you must take the entire message of the Bible to find the real truth.

But after reading this article, it is quite clearly that you are just presenting a common cheap tactic:

Your head just exploded when you typed that, right?





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So why waste your time trying to convince me? As long as I know the Bible is true, you can't.
Good point!
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Yes, somebody that RAPES CHILDREN should be imprisoned.

We, as a society, tend to think that RAPING CHILDREN is kind of a problem. We tend to think of these children as VICTIMS. Now, if one of these children grows up and as an adult they make their own choices, there really isn't a victim, except when you're all grossed out by picturing that steamy man on man sex.
Newsflash, we imprison people for just looking at child porn. Rape doesn't have to be involved. And don't fucking twist this to suggest I support child molesters. It is a horrible crime that causes much devastation.

I am merely pointing out your hypocrisy. If you are going to claim that ppl have no choice in their sexual orientation then you lose the right to condemn these type of ppl for simply having a different kind of sexual orientation.
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For all you gay marriage/gay sex supporters, do you support pedophilia?
Do you believe that when someone decides to become a priest, does this person make the decision completely on their own, on a whim? Or is this person somehow "influenced" by the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit?
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Suppose Jesus comes back to Earth tomorrow. He sees a funeral. He sees people full of grief. He sees the Westboro Baptist Church picketing the funeral. What do you think Jesus says to those protesters?
He would condemn them like he condemned the religious elite of his day. He also hung out with the prostitutes and showed them love. That doesn't mean He approved their lifestyle or had sex with them. He told them to go and sin no more.
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I am merely pointing out your hypocrisy. If you are going to claim that ppl have no choice in their sexual orientation then you lose the right to condemn these type of ppl for simply having a different kind of sexual orientation.
I say that people have no choice in their sexual orientation. Choosing to have sex with other people who have the same innate feelings toward sex is not a problem when it's two adults who are able to make a decision whether or not to give into their feelings for each other.

That means I'm a hypocrite if I'm not into raping children? If you're saying I'm a hypocrite then you're kind of saying you think that all gay sex is rape.

Just curious, but what exactly do you think happens at gay bars? Does one gay person point to another gay person and drag them back and have sex with them, with or without consent? Do you not think that a grown man is able to consent to have sex with another grown man?

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He would condemn them like he condemned the religious elite of his day. He also hung out with the prostitutes and showed them love. That doesn't mean He approved their lifestyle or had sex with them. He told them to go and sin no more.
Interesting. He showed sinners love. I'll bet He would be very upset to learn that you do not.

BTW - I'm straight. You do realize that, don't you? You're not committing high acts of Jesus-approved messageboardery to convince a straight man not to have sex with other men, you're trying to convince a straight man that I need to stop treating sinners with compassion.

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Like it or not, our government is based on principles in the Bible. We believe that we should help our neighbor, foreign and domestic without any expectation of return. We believe it's better to give than receive.
"From each, according to his ability, to each, according to his needs."

Which books is that from? Ecclesiastes or Psalms?
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Old 07-03-13, 09:33 PM
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Interesting. He showed sinners love. I'll bet He would be very upset to learn that you do not.

BTW - I'm straight. You do realize that, don't you? You're not committing high acts of Jesus-approved messageboardery to convince a straight man not to have sex with other men, you're trying to convince a straight man that I need to stop treating sinners with compassion.
I'm fairly certain Jesus spoke out far more against what he is doing in here than he ever did about two penises touching...
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The fact that anyone needs this explained to them terrifies me. Please, get help.
The difference between homosexuality and pedophilia is an arbitrary age deemed acceptable by society.
It's ok to love someone who's 20 years younger as long as the person is 18? Why is 18 ok?

In my opinion, a man should like women. Anything else, it's a mental handicap. Man-man, man-teen girl, man-horse. All the same. All wrong.
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The difference between homosexuality and pedophilia is an arbitrary age deemed acceptable by society.
It's ok to love someone who's 20 years younger as long as the person is 18? Why is 18 ok?

In my opinion, a man should like women. Anything else, it's a mental handicap. Man-man, man-teen girl, man-horse. All the same. All wrong.
You don't understand what pedophilia is. I'm guessing that's not the only thing you're misinformed about...

But as I said before, the fact that you would lump sex with a pre-pubescent child in with adult same sex relationships terrifies me. Please don't ever lose your faith.
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The difference between homosexuality and pedophilia is an arbitrary age deemed acceptable by society.
It's ok to love someone who's 20 years younger as long as the person is 18? Why is 18 ok?.
The difference between heterosexuality and pedophilia is an arbitrary age deemed acceptable by society.

So how would you redefine pedophelia?
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The difference between homosexuality and pedophilia is an arbitrary age deemed acceptable by society.
It's ok to love someone who's 20 years younger as long as the person is 18? Why is 18 ok?

In my opinion, a man should like women. Anything else, it's a mental handicap. Man-man, man-teen girl, man-horse. All the same. All wrong.
Actually in KY its 16 as the age of consent. But I ask you what age is appropriate, why would 18 not be ok?
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Then why do gays act like they cant enjoy a happy life until the government legalizes SSM? They are still perfectly free to choose a companion and live together.
And get none of the benefits of marriage like hospital visitation and inheritance protection.

Of course, you'll never have to deal with discrimination like that so I'm not surprised you have zero understanding of it.
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I just want the right to add you to my ignore list. Nice vacant spot for you.
It must be so difficult for you to be forced to read posts by someone who disagrees with you. What terrible hardship! Jesus upon the cross must have felt only a tiny portion of the suffering you shoulder.

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Absolutely not. I don't think a business should have to support the KKK if they want either. But belonging to a hate organization is a choice. One can't help their sexuality any more than they could their race. And it's not a "crutch" when it's pretty clear that we don't choose our sexuality. Or maybe you did...care to explain when you decided to be straight? I just knew but maybe you had more of a process.
Okay, can we get off the whole being gay isn't a choice thing? First, the fundies won't ever concede that sexual orientation is innate (after all, they vividly remember the day that they were given a choice between being straight and being gay, and chose to be straight in order to honor god despite all the benefits of being gay). Second, and far more importantly, in this country we protect from discrimination in several different areas, some of which are innate, but some aren't. For example: religion. So it doesn't matter if being gay is a choice or not, because we don't only protect innate traits from discrimination.

So if people really wanted to base this on choice, then we should drop religious protections as well. Then it won't be discrimination when we force people to be Muslim against their will!

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The difference between homosexuality and pedophilia is an arbitrary age deemed acceptable by society.
It's ok to love someone who's 20 years younger as long as the person is 18? Why is 18 ok?

In my opinion, a man should like women. Anything else, it's a mental handicap. Man-man, man-teen girl, man-horse. All the same. All wrong.
In my opinion, anyone who believes in a religion is mentally handicapped. Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism. All the same. All wrong. Gee, it's fun to make blanket statements.

P.S. I don't think that religion is actually a mental handicap, although I do think that some people use religions as an excuse to hate people who aren't like them, which is simply unfortunate.

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Let's play a game shall we?

http://t.mediaite.com/mediaite/#!/en...7b567088c833/1

Please pardon this "common cheap tactic".
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Congrats to the happy couple!

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^That's a straight marriage. Disgraceful.
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^That's a straight marriage. Disgraceful.
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"Here comes the bridge..."
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Interesting. He showed sinners love. I'll bet He would be very upset to learn that you do not.

BTW - I'm straight. You do realize that, don't you? You're not committing high acts of Jesus-approved messageboardery to convince a straight man not to have sex with other men, you're trying to convince a straight man that I need to stop treating sinners with compassion.
You do realize that you have just offended many posters here by equating homosexuality with sin.

To repeat an analogy, who is showing compassion to the sick patient? The doctor who tells the patient facing a terminal disease barring a lifestyle change that he/she does not need to change anything? Or the doctor who tells the patient that he/she will die unless a change is made? The first certainly sounds friendlier.
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You do realize that you have just offended many posters here by equating homosexuality with sin.
So now you're saying it's NOT a sin?
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So now you're saying it's NOT a sin?
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And get none of the benefits of marriage like hospital visitation and inheritance protection.

Of course, you'll never have to deal with discrimination like that so I'm not surprised you have zero understanding of it.
I'm no legal expert, but I would think these issues could be easily resolved by naming the partner as a beneficiary on a will or life insurance. This should override family's claims.

As for hospital visitation, I would think you could draw up a legal document giving visitation rights to your partner, have it signed and notarized. I can't imagine a hospital admin would be willing to risk a lawsuit and keep the partner from visiting.

But of course that's not good enough. You want to rewrite society and demand that everyone accept their lifestyle as perfectly natural and sinless.
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