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Old 04-29-13, 03:31 PM
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NBA player comes out

Jason Collins told Sports Illustrated that he is gay. Received supportive tweets from the likes of Kobe Bryant. Some NFL players had to erase some tweets.

My first thought was "who?". My second thought was good for him. My third thought was still waiting on a big time star to come out.
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Old 04-29-13, 03:37 PM
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All my thoughts were "who?" A friend told me his twin brother (not my friend's, stupids) was in the league, and is straight. Just more genetic proof that gay people are born this way.

And now, I open the floor to discussion.

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On April 29, 2063, will the number #98 be universally retired in the NBA?
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All my thoughts were "who?" A friend told me his twin brother (not my friend's, stupids) was in the league, and is straight.
I think it would be interesting to see an interview with the both of them discussing that dynamic.
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Fraternal or identical twins?
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Fraternal or identical twins?


Do they look alike to you?
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Do they look alike to you ?
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I'm not answering that, lest I become fodder for the latest "Is this guy racist?" poll.
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Do they look alike to you?
Jason Collins is listed at 7-0 and 260 pounds in the New Jersey Nets media guide, while the Utah Jazz media guide lists twin brother Jarron at 6-11 and 255. Aren't they identical twins?

Yes, responds Portia Collins, the mother of the first set of identical twins to play in the NBA since Harvey and Horace Grant.
http://www.nba.com/all_access/collinses_021212.html
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I don't know who he is, but I salute him for his courage.
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I thought this wasn't supposed to matter anymore.
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It isn't a big deal anymore....which is why we all applaud him.
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Do they look alike to you?
Sort of, but the one on the right looks older.
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Old 04-29-13, 07:19 PM
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Agreed. By at least 5 minutes.
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Wait a minute. Horace Grant had a twin brother in the NBA?! I legitimately did not know that. But anyway, good for Collins.
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Good on him. Somebody had to have the nerve to do it eventually. Rumor is none of the NFL gays want to be the "one" so several are negotiating to come out at once. And of course, they're all likely to be nobodies to most of us.

Reactions to Collins have been swift & all over the map. Clinton tweets his support, gee thanks. One ESPN newscaster says Collins has turned away from the Lord & not a real Christian. Etc. Etc.

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This gave me a chuckle today:

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Old 04-29-13, 07:59 PM
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One ESPN newscaster says Collins has turned away from the Lord & not a real Christian. Etc. Etc.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...xuality-448377
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I salute his courage, but does he still count as the first active player to come out if he doesn't play next season? I mean the guy's 34, doesn't have a contract, and was a borderline player to begin with.
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Looking at his stats it seems to me he was not likely to be signed next year. Nate Silver looked at the stats and found 11 of 18 players in "similar situations" over the last 20 years played in the NBA the following year, but his analysis is severely limited. He basically looked at forward/centers of similar age, games played and starts, without taking into account contract status or health. Looking at the list I saw that, besides Collins, the only 2 players in the last 5 years that stayed in the game were Stephen Jackson, who only made the list due to injury/lockout limiting play time, and Eduardo Najera, who still had a couple of years left on his contract.

This announcement probably doesn't help his chances either.
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I don't see the issue. There are gay players currently in all sports. So the only difference is the announcement.
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I thought this wasn't supposed to matter anymore.
When he can legally marry his partner in all 50 states, hold hands with him in public without being on the receiving end of insults, and not be turned away from service by businesses based on who he is, then maybe it won't matter anymore.

Until then, sorry for the terrible inconvenience, but it still does.
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This gave me a chuckle today:

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Great news, but I'm still waiting for LeBron, Kobe and the entire Hornets team to come out.
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This announcement probably doesn't help his chances either.
No, it pretty much guarantees his chances of playing again next year. Once could argue that the timing of his announcement was very self-serving. Even if he doesn't play next year or if he only plays one more and is done, he is now far more famous than he would have ever been had he just finished out his career without revealing his sexuality.
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