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Old 07-29-15, 09:57 AM
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We need a candidate with some balls.
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Old 07-29-15, 10:15 AM
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One could as easily say, if it comes down to Hulk Hogan and Caitlyn Jenner, one of them has to win.

I fully realize the difference is that Trump and Sanders are actually running, but they have about as little chance of the nomination as Hogan or Jenner.
Try to put yourself in the mindset of this time, 2007, when Clinton was "inevitable" and Obama was a pipedream. Crazy shit does happen.
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Old 07-29-15, 10:21 AM
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If it comes down to Trump and Sanders, one of them has to win.
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Old 07-29-15, 10:23 AM
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Trump/Palin 2016

"you're fired! I quit"

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Old 07-29-15, 10:23 AM
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In related breaking news, H. Clinton revealed that she'd once been approached for sex by her husband.
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Old 07-29-15, 10:26 AM
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Try to put yourself in the mindset of this time, 2007, when Clinton was "inevitable" and Obama was a pipedream. Crazy shit does happen.
Obama was polling over 20% in July 2007, and Clinton had not racked up the endorsements then like she has now.
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Old 07-29-15, 10:45 AM
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Obama was polling over 20% in July 2007, and Clinton had not racked up the endorsements then like she has now.
That proves nothing, as Clinton had more than double Obama's numbers then, and Bernie Sanders has the same 22% now as Obama did then. Clinton's at around 55% right now, but she's slowly dropping numbers while Sanders is slowly gaining. I'm not saying he's going to win or anything, but calling it a fantasy and "not the real world" is ignoring history.
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That proves nothing, as Clinton had more than double Obama's numbers then, and Bernie Sanders has the same 22% now as Obama did then. Clinton's at around 55% right now, but she's slowly dropping numbers while Sanders is slowly gaining. I'm not saying he's going to win or anything, but calling it a fantasy and "not the real world" is ignoring history.
It's not ignoring history, it's a greater understanding of it.

In the book “The Party Decides” (2008), the most comprehensive study of the invisible primary, the political scientists Marty Cohen, David Karol, Hans Noel and John Zaller evaluated data on endorsements made in presidential nomination contests between 1980 and 2004 and found that “early endorsements in the invisible primary are the most important cause of candidate success in the state primaries and caucuses.”

Endorsements aren’t a foolproof predictor. In 2008 , more Democrats initially endorsed Hillary Clinton than Barack Obama (although Obama had some support). Still, a steady flow of endorsements for Obama after his early successes in states like Iowa and South Carolina helped to signal that he was an acceptable choice among party elites and presaged his success in other states.

In the 2016 election cycle, the Democratic and Republican races look very different. Hillary Clinton had a commanding lead in endorsements even before launching her campaign — to an extent that’s unprecedented for a non-incumbent Democrat. But Republican insiders have been slow to rally behind a candidate.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...ement-primary/
The difference between 2008 and 2016 (and between Clinton/Obama then and Clinton/Sanders now) is that in 2008, while Clinton had an early lead in both polling (which is meaningless at this point) and endorsements (which are not), this time she has such an overwhelming lead in endorsements that no one else would be able to make up the difference.
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Old 07-29-15, 11:24 AM
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Hey, you better not be discounting rapper Killer Mike's endorsement of Sanders, you better not!!!
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All this drama when everyone knows it will be Clinton vs Bush (with a possible upset by Kasich).

And no doubt other Repubs feel the same.
Sadly, I think you are probably correct.
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Old 07-29-15, 01:22 PM
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I can only assume a Bush VS Clinton ticket is an open invitation from the ultra-elite to start a revolution. Which will drive down markets short-term. And that's great positioning to profit from all of this.
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All this drama when everyone knows it will be Clinton vs Bush (with a possible upset by Kasich).
Which means I'll be voting third party.
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Which means I'll be voting third party.
Exactly. Who is the Libertarian candidate next year?
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Exactly. Who is the Libertarian candidate next year?
Whoever isn't present when the nominating committee meets, most likely.
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Penn Gillette for President!
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Old 07-29-15, 06:11 PM
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Penn Gillette for President!
Teller would be preferable...especially for inaugural & SOTU addresses.
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Old 07-29-15, 07:08 PM
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Teller would be preferable...especially for inaugural & SOTU addresses.
Teller would be the most eloquent president in a long time.
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Old 07-29-15, 07:16 PM
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Teller talks, but only from behind curtains or in shadows like a whistleblower on 60 Minutes.
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Teller would be preferable...especially for inaugural & SOTU addresses.
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Old 07-29-15, 09:09 PM
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Teller talks, but only from behind curtains or in shadows like a whistleblower on 60 Minutes.
Yes, as a matter of fact, I had a conversation with Penn and Teller once (name drop!) and Teller talked. Quite a bit actually though, of course, not as much as Penn. No one can out-talk Penn.
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Old 07-30-15, 07:49 AM
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A menage a trois?

I am waiting for Katy Perry to take a selfie with a 2016 presidential candidate before I cast my ballot.

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AND he cuts in line at Genos and orders a cheesesteak with American cheese and no onions. Then he ordered a 2nd cheesesteak at Pats and left it half eaten on the table for some unknown person to clean up after him. What a moran.

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AND he cuts in line at Genos and orders a cheesesteak with American cheese and no onions. Then he ordered a 2nd cheesesteak at Pats and left it half eaten on the table for some unknown person to clean up after him. What a moran.
To me the worst offense is cutting in front of the line...I don't care who you are, you wait in line like everyone else. It also doesn't help you promote an image that you are one with the voters.
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That proves nothing, as Clinton had more than double Obama's numbers then, and Bernie Sanders has the same 22% now as Obama did then. Clinton's at around 55% right now, but she's slowly dropping numbers while Sanders is slowly gaining. I'm not saying he's going to win or anything, but calling it a fantasy and "not the real world" is ignoring history.
Barring an actual scandal involving HRC, she is a stone cold mortal lock for the nomination.
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Any thoughts from DVDTalk economists on Clinton's idea to tax capital gains at regular rates (as in for individual income) for first two years and then decreasing them on a sliding scale to encourage investors to keep their money in a company for a longer term rather than making a quick buck & getting out?
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