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Old 07-28-15, 10:56 AM
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Re: The 2016 Presidential Election thread

I was wondering when the political machine was going to go medieval on Trump.

And "scalp reduction surgery to remove a bald spot"?

By the way, Michael Cohen, the asshat quoted in the article - have you seen this jackass on cable news? He's apparently Trump's spokesman. Oh wait a minute, Go Trump! Make America Great Again!

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Does this mean he's Mexican?
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Old 07-28-15, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by stingermck View Post
I'd like to hear a clarification from Trump's ex-wife on this. If she now says that he really did rape her, that's enough for me to not vote for him.

(I was already planning to not vote for him, but if I had been planning to vote for him, it would be enough for me to not vote for him.)
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Originally Posted by grundle View Post
I'd like to hear a clarification from Trump's ex-wife on this. If she now says that he really did rape her, that's enough for me to not vote for him.

(I was already planning to not vote for him, but if I had been planning to vote for him, it would be enough for me to not vote for him.)
http://www.inquisitr.com/2288996/iva...without-merit/

“I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald. The story is totally without merit. Donald and I are the best of friends and together have raised three children that we love and are very proud of. I have nothing but fondness for Donald and wish him the best of luck on his campaign. Incidentally, I think he would make an incredible president.”
Trump adviser Michael Cohen apologizes for rape comment

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/28/po...ape/index.html
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Old 07-28-15, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by stingermck View Post
Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen says:

“You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law.”

Yes, like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marita..._States_law%29

The 17th-century English jurist, Sir Matthew Hale, stated the position of the common law in The History of the Pleas of the Crown (1736) that a husband cannot be guilty of the rape of his wife because the wife "hath given up herself in this kind to her husband, which she cannot retract".
1736!

Only trouble is:

The principle, no record of which is found earlier than Hale's view, would continue to be accepted as a statement of the law in England and Wales until it was overturned by the House of Lords in the case of R. v. R in 1991,[1] where it was described as an anachronistic and offensive legal fiction.
And in the US:

The legal history of marital rape laws in the United States is a long and complex one, that spans over several decades. The criminalization of marital rape in the United States started in the mid-1970s and by 1993 marital rape became a crime in all 50 states, under at least one section of the sexual offense codes.
Although states have not all been the same and some have required a higher bar for marital rape than nonmarital (which is wrong), you can rape your wife in all fifty states.

And this Michael Cohen character is a lawyer?
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Old 07-28-15, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by stingermck View Post
From Cohen:

"As an attorney, husband and father there are many injustices that offend me but nothing more than charges of rape or racism. They hit me at my core."

Translation: I hate a lot of things, but most of all, it's when a white man gets accused of wrongdoing.

What a douchebag.
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Old 07-28-15, 11:43 AM
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You posted while I was writing my post.

So Ivana denies he actually, literally raped her even though she said he did in a deposition. Regardless of whether he did or not, it will have no legal consequences for Trump although there may be political fallout.

Trump adviser Michael Cohen apologizes for rape comment

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/28/po...ape/index.html
So he apologized. That doesn't negate the fact that he said something demonstrably false (and, I would say, evil) and that even your average layperson probably knows is false, and he should have known better, especially as a lawyer.
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Originally Posted by movielib View Post
You posted while I was writing my post.

So Ivana denies he actually, literally raped her even though she said he did in a deposition. Regardless of whether he did or not, it will have no legal consequences for Trump although there may be political fallout.


So he apologized. That doesn't negate the fact that he said something demonstrably false (and, I would say, evil) and that even your average layperson probably knows is false, and he should have known better, especially as a lawyer.

What's wrong with what they said? They just said what the rest of American was too chicken shit to say. #amirite #Trump

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THIS was the thing that caused grundle not to vote for Trump? C'mon grundle, we need your support!
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Re: The 2016 Presidential Election thread

Bill Cosby just tweeted that he will not be voting for Trump now.
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Originally Posted by CRM114 View Post
THIS was the thing that caused grundle not to vote for Trump?
Xenophobia just wasn't good enough.
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Old 07-28-15, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stingermck View Post

Thanks.

I'm still not voting for Trump, but if I had been planning to vote for him, I would still be planning to vote for him.

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THIS was the thing that caused grundle not to vote for Trump? C'mon grundle, we need your support!
No, this was the thing that caused me not to vote for Trump.

I was saying that if I had been planning to vote for him (which I never was), and if his wife had confirmed that he had raped her, then that would have made me not vote for him.
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Old 07-28-15, 03:41 PM
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Just a week away from the first debate, in Cleveland, and there is some more immigration and crime news for Trump, coming out of the Cleveland area. Yesterday, a suspected illegal immigrant attempted to rape one of his teenage relatives. While evading authorities he murdered a 60 year old woman in her home, and then shot another women on a walking/bike trail behinds the first victim's home. The walking trail is very popular and usually quite busy on nice days. The woman who was shot was with her two young children. Luckily she escaped with only a wounded arm. After a search, and possible gunfire with the police, the suspect was apprehended and arraigned earlier today.

The kicker, the suspect was stopped a few weeks ago after reports of suspicious behaviour, but local authorities never received any orders back from border patro, so he was simply let go.

This is about 30 mile east of Cleveland, and fairly close to my home.

By the way, the reporting on this incident has been terribly confusing.
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A new, fairly thorough, CNN poll has Sanders out-polling all of the GOP's major candidates, though pretty much tied with Jeb Bush.

SANDERS: 48%
BUSH: 47%

SANDERS: 48%
WALKER: 42%

SANDERS: 59%
TRUMP: 38%
And while Trump has high enough favorability numbers to lead among the GOP candidates, his overall UNfavorability numbers are by far the highest. In a general election, he will get destroyed.
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Old 07-28-15, 04:53 PM
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A new, fairly thorough, CNN poll has Sanders out-polling all of the GOP's major candidates, though pretty much tied with Jeb Bush.
In a poll where 41% of the respondents have never heard of him.

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In a general election, he will get destroyed.
And the same is true of Sanders. Neither has a chance.
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And the same is true of Sanders. Neither has a chance.
If it comes down to Trump and Sanders, one of them has to win.
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And while Trump has high enough favorability numbers to lead among the GOP candidates, his overall UNfavorability numbers are by far the highest. In a general election, he will get destroyed.
If voting was TODAY...I'd be inclined to agree.
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If it comes down to Trump and Sanders, one of them has to win.
One could as easily say, if it comes down to Hulk Hogan and Caitlyn Jenner, one of them has to win.

I fully realize the difference is that Trump and Sanders are actually running, but they have about as little chance of the nomination as Hogan or Jenner.
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First, in the "you have no chance, pal" department:

Christie to Colorado: Pot party ends with me

Inside Rand Paul's downward spiral

And over in the real world:

Jeb Bush Drawing Big Bucks From GOP Establishment
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All this drama when everyone knows it will be Clinton vs Bush (with a possible upset by Kasich).

Originally Posted by Chris Christie
"If you’re getting high in Colorado today, enjoy it. As of January 2017, I will enforce the federal laws.”
And no doubt other Repubs feel the same.
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As seen on the campaign trail:



http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/t...ak-orders.html
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He really needs better slogans.
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An actual headline:

Donald Trump says he'd tap Sarah Palin
Spoiler:
for a Cabinet post
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Trump/Palin 2016

"you're fired! I quit"
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Deez Nuts joins 2016 presidential race

By Kellan Howell - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 28, 2015

Just when it seemed the 2016 presidential race couldn’t get any more crowded, or colorful, another oddball candidate has put in a bid for the White House — under the name Deez Nuts.

Mr. Nuts is running as an independent from Iowa and filed his candidacy Sunday with the Federal Election Committee.

The presidential campaign committee “Deez Nuts for President 2016” is registered in Wallingford, Iowa, the smallest hometown of all the presidential hopefuls with a population of 197.

Over 500 people have filed their 2016 candidacy with the FEC so far. Among the candidates, 80 are Democrats, 127 are Republicans, 135 independents and 12 libertarians. Fifteen candidates have not declared a party affiliation, while numerous others chose to write in their own.

At least one furry friend — a cat from Kentucky named Limberbutt McCubbins — has entered the race as well. His candidacy was filed by his owner, 17-year-old Isaac Weiss, CBS News reported.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...idential-race/
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