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inri222 12-09-13 05:04 PM

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A certain White Hispanic should apply for a job there.

Rockmjd23 12-11-13 05:14 PM

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15 were flagged by background investigators for trying to manipulate the results of a polygraph exam.
What? :lol:

kvrdave 12-20-13 04:31 PM

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http://www.elpasotimes.com/latestnew...er-crossing-at

New Mexico cops do it again. I hope they fucking get nailed on this.


A New Mexico woman claims in a federal lawsuit that she underwent a brutal and inhumane six-hour full-body cavity search by federal officers that included anal and vaginal probes that made her feel like an "animal."

The woman, a Lovington, N.M. resident, also is suing University Medical Center, where she was forced to have an observed bowel movement, was X-rayed, had a speculum exam, vaginal exam and had a CT scan.

The suit claims the hospital "violated her" and then gave her the $5,000 bill.

The lawsuit names the El Paso County Hospital District's Board of Managers, University Medical Center, Drs. Michael Parsa and Christopher Cabanillas, two unknown supervising U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers and two other CBP officers only identified by their last names of Portillo and Herrera as defendants. The doctors and the agents could not be reached for comment.

The 54-year-old woman, who is not identified in the suit, is asking for an unspecified amount of money and to end the policy that gives federal agents and officers the authority to stick their fingers and objects up people's cavities when they search for drugs.

The lawsuit was filed Wednesday by the American Civil Liberties Union in federal court in El Paso on behalf of the woman who was stopped as she crossed at the Bridge of the Americas a year ago. Despite the six-hour search at the port and then later at UMC, no drugs were found.

The woman is identified as Jane Doe in the lawsuit.

According to the lawsuit, the woman was first frisked and strip-searched at the port of entry, where officers stuck their fingers inside her rectum and vagina. When that search came up negative, she was taken to University Medical Center.

"These extreme and illegal searches deeply traumatized our client," ACLU of New Mexico Legal Director Laura Schauer Ives said in the news release. "The fact that our government treated an innocent 54-year-old woman with such brutality and inhumanity should outrage all Americans. We must ensure that government agents never put another person through a nightmare like this ever again."

A spokesman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection said in a prepared statement that the agency could not talk about a specific lawsuit.

"As a practice CBP does not comment on pending litigation," the statement said. "CBP stresses honor and integrity in every aspect of our mission, and the overwhelming majority of CBP employees and officers perform their duties with honor and distinction, working tirelessly every day to keep our country safe. We do not tolerate corruption or abuse within our ranks, and we fully cooperate with any criminal or administrative investigations of alleged misconduct by any of our personnel, on or off-duty."

University Medical Center also declined to get into specifics of the lawsuit.

"Hospital policy is to obtain consent from all patients who receive medical services at UMC," spokeswoman Margaret Altoff-Olivas said in a statement. "Because this case involves litigation, UMC will not be commenting further."

The search took place at about 2 p.m. Dec. 12, 2012, when the woman was coming back from seeing a family friend, whom she calls "uncle" and tries to visit once a month.

As her passport was swiped, a CBP officer told her she was "randomly" picked for a secondary inspection, where Portillo and Herrera frisked her through her clothing.

"One of the agents ran her finger over Ms. Doe's genital area during the frisk," the lawsuit said.

Then the woman was told to squat as one of the officers "inserted her finger in the crevice of Ms. Doe's buttocks." The frisk did not show any evidence of contraband or drugs, the lawsuit said.

Then the woman was told to stand in a line with other people as a drug-sniffing dog walked by.

The officer with the dog "hit the ground by her feet, but did not hit the ground by any of the others in the line," the lawsuit said. "The dog responded by lunging onto Ms. Doe and landing its front paws on her torso."

Ives said she does not believe this was a proper signal to indicate a drugs were present, but officers used it to continue the search.

The woman was taken to another room and asked to take off her pants and crouch as her anus and vagina were examined with a flashlight, the lawsuit said.

The woman, now crying, was taken to University Medical Center after the strip search did not find anything.

"During the car ride to the Medical Center, Ms. Doe asked if the agents had a warrant," the lawsuit said. "One of them responded that they did not need a warrant."

While handcuffed to an examination table, the woman was searched again by both officers and Cabanillas and Parsa. She was given a laxative and had a bowel movement in a portable toilet in front of both officers, the lawsuit said.

Then the woman's abdomen was X-rayed, but there were no signs of drugs or any other contraband in the woman's body. A speculum was used to probe her vagina and Parsa's fingers were used to inspect both her vagina and rectum while the door to the examining room was left open, the lawsuit said.

At this point the lawsuit claims, "Ms. Doe felt that she was being treated less than human, like an animal."

The last test was a CT scan of the woman's abdomen and pelvis, which resulted in no evidence of illegal activity being found.


The lawsuit said after the CT scan one of the officers told the woman she could sign the medical consent form and CBP would pay for the exams, but if she did not sign, she would be charged. The woman refused to sign and eventually she was charged more than $5,000 for the examinations.

According to the lawsuit, she repeatedly refused to consent to any of the searches.

University Medical Center's search of patients policy states, "Associates, members of Medical Staff, Residents or Allied Health Professionals may search a patient only when necessary to comply with a search warrant." Under the subhead procedure, the policy states, "...unless a patient consents, an invasion of the patient's body to obtain evidence requires a search warrant."

A warrant was not obtained, the lawsuit said.

"However, in practice, the Medical Center staff and CBP agents routinely conduct invasive cavity searches without warrant, consent or sufficient suspicion to justify the searches," the lawsuit said. "When Ms. Doe expressed dismay about the unreasonable searches she suffered, a Medical Center employee responded that these procedures were routinely followed when an individual is brought in by CBP agents."

In a phone interview, Ives said searches like the one the 54-year-old woman went through are illegal and becoming common among law enforcement.

"When the less intrusive search didn't find any evidence of drugs, more intrusive searches should have not been used," Ives said. "Any one of those searches should have eliminated any suspicion of drugs. A second search should make it clear and at most a third search should have been the last."

She said: "The fact that this happened to a 54-year-old woman should outrage anyone. She did ask to talk to an attorney and she did ask for a warrant. I don't know what guarantees there are to our rights other than a lawsuit like this one that hold the government agencies responsible."

Last month, a Deming man sued Deming police officers who gave him three enemas, two anal probes and a colonoscopy after he was suspected of having drugs. The search found nothing, and lawyers for the man said the warrant used to conduct the search failed to show probable cause.
I also hope the hospital gets their ass handed to them as well.

Josh-da-man 12-20-13 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kvrdave (Post 11952297)
http://www.elpasotimes.com/latestnew...er-crossing-at

New Mexico cops do it again. I hope they fucking get nailed on this.



I also hope the hospital gets their ass handed to them as well.

Yes, they should. The cops and the hospital should get the holy fuck sued out of them.

And, I would go further and say that the police and any hospital staff who knowingly participated should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

They are basically raping people and then charging them for it.

I hope that every cop involved finds themselves doing long stints in prison in general population. (Like that will ever happen.)

Dave99 12-20-13 05:46 PM

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I'm sure somehow the cop apologists will come in and tell us how this was all done by the book & perfectly legal, and this is all for the children.

kvrdave 12-20-13 05:47 PM

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Sounds like she did the right thing by not signing the consent form. I could see that screwing her in a lawsuit of this kind.

McHawkson 12-20-13 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 11939551)
L.A. County sheriff's officials made him a jail guard, a decision that surprised even McDonald.

"How can you put me back in the jails when I already had a problem there?" McDonald told the newspaper.

If I recall right - when they hired new sheriff and their first duty as a jail guard?

DeputyDave 12-21-13 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave99 (Post 11952361)
I'm sure somehow the cop apologists will come in and tell us how this was all done by the book & perfectly legal, and this is all for the children.

The only I can say in any defense is that these were not New Mexico police but Border and Customs agents, whom I loath and do not at all consider cops.

PenguinJoe 12-23-13 07:46 AM

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Drunk On-Duty Cop Sent Sexually Explicit Texts to a Twelve-Year-Old

Police say an on-duty rural Alaskan cop got drunk and sent dozens of sexually charged text messages to a 12-year-old girl from a governmental cell phone.

Twenty-two-year-old Leon Outwater, a village police officer in Kobuk, Alaska was arrested Thursday, nearly a month after the 12-year-old's mother discovered the texts.

To arrest Outwater, troopers had to fly 155 miles from Kotzebue the largest city in the Northwest Arctic Borough to Kobuk. The small community (pop. 140) banned the importation and sale of alcohol in the 1980s.

Outwater allegedly sent the girl at least 20 texts, allegedly soliciting sex, in November from a communal cell phone shared by Alaskan officers.

When he was confronted by police, Outwater had an explanation: "I was drunk."

Outwater's been charged with first- and second-degree sexual abuse of a minor, plus a tampering charge for deleting the texts off the phone.
http://gawker.com/drunk-on-duty-cop-...iellebluestone

JimRochester 12-23-13 12:43 PM

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C'mon, is that even illegal? In the nude selfies she sent him ,she sure looked 17.

PenguinJoe 01-08-14 05:53 PM

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Cop kills schizophrenic kid.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/78...-teen-to-death


"We don't have time for this."


That's what a North Carolina police officer allegedly said before shooting 18-year-old schizophrenic Keith Vidal in his own Boiling Springs Lakes, N.C., home.



On Sunday, Vidal's parents had sought police assistance after he entered a schizophrenic episode. Vidal had picked up a screwdriver — small enough that it couldn't cause serious injury, but worrisome enough that his family decided they needed to call the police. Three separate departments sent officers; the first two managed to control the situation. It was after the third, from Southport, entered that the situation went sour. According to Vidal's parents, that officer then said "I don't have time for this. Tase him. Let's get him out of here." Another officer stunned Vidal with a taser. While Vidal was between first two responding officers, the Southport policeman then stepped forward and shot him dead.

Cusm 01-08-14 07:49 PM

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Wow! I am not one of the forum police defenders, but this story is the absolute worst, talk about leaving out facts and being extremely biased.

Deftones 01-08-14 07:59 PM

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a screwdriver not big enough to hurt anyone? i'd say even a screwdriver the size of the one you might use to fix your glasses could cause significant harm if you got stabbed in the right place.

Rockmjd23 01-08-14 08:10 PM

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Need more info but it doesn't look good that 3 officers couldn't control a 90 pound kid before resorting to shooting him.

NotThatGuy 01-08-14 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 11971164)
a screwdriver not big enough to hurt anyone? i'd say even a screwdriver the size of the one you might use to fix your glasses could cause significant harm if you got stabbed in the right place.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...crewdriver.jpg

DVD Polizei 01-08-14 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockmjd23 (Post 11971175)
Need more info but it doesn't look good that 3 officers couldn't control a 90 pound kid before resorting to shooting him.

Obviously, you're not a parent! :mad:

Giantrobo 01-13-14 06:24 PM

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Woooow. I am shocked.....Not really.

Police officers not guilty in killing of Kelly Thomas



I had heard the prosecution was dropping the ball on this case but wow...just wow.



An Orange County jury Monday found two former Fullerton police officers accused of killing a schizophrenic homeless man, Kelly Thomas, not guilty.

Manuel Ramos and Jay Cicinelli were charged with striking Kelly Thomas with a baton and a stun gun in a beating that left him comatose. He died five days later.

[Updated at 4:12 p.m.: Ramos, Cicinelli and their families were swiftly escorted out of the courtroom.

Ron Thomas, Kelly Thomas' father, said he was stunned by the verdict, saying he'd never seen such a miscarriage of justice.]

The jury took less than a full day of deliberation to reach the not-guilty verdicts.



Bronkster 01-13-14 06:48 PM

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^ Been following this since it first broke and I am wildly disappointed in the verdict here. Fucking crazy. :sad:

JumpCutz 01-13-14 06:53 PM

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Yeah, I've been following this case too. Disgusting.

Rockmjd23 01-13-14 07:16 PM

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And this would be the biggest news story in the country if one thing was changed about the victim...;)

Lt Ripley 01-13-14 07:24 PM

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Didn't follow the story, did the police have info that he was schizo prior to the confrontation and him resisting?

Gots to love folks in the jury.

inri222 01-13-14 07:40 PM

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Full un-edited video of Kelly Thomas incident

Lt Ripley 01-13-14 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 11976499)

Saw some pics too. Wow, can't see how they didn't come out of there with at least a guilty involuntary manslaughter verdict.

Giantrobo 01-14-14 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockmjd23 (Post 11976476)
And this would be the biggest news story in the country if one thing was changed about the victim...;)

Cute.


It's been big here in So Cal and I think it will get bigger as the Feds jump in for a Civil Case and people start talking about Homeless Mentally ill people and Police.

Giantrobo 01-14-14 02:35 PM

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Orange County Ca is known for its undying support for Cops no matter what wrong they do.

So the verdict is no real shock. Also, as I mentioned, the DA royally fucked up handling this case. Orange County Dist. Atty. Tony Rackauckas pulled a political move in what he thought was "Slam dunk" case and handled this case even though he is not a trial lawyer.


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