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nemein 06-18-18 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 13354749)
Was that even necessary?


Nope... sounds like if the man in the wheelchair had kept his hands where the officers could see them, and maybe been a little less argumentative, it wouldn't have been. However that's only a short clip of a longer encounter so hard to tell the full story. It is also hard to tell... it is a gun or a taser?

Regardless of that... the one officer willing to draw down on someone while another officer is standing in the way needs to be addressed too.

grundle 06-25-18 06:44 AM

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In East Pittsburgh (which is not part of Pittsburgh) a police officer shot and killed an unarmed 17-year-old black male who was running away:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...ntwon_Rose_Jr.

alexkevin 06-25-18 07:18 AM

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Do watch this video haha

inri222 07-05-18 09:30 AM

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Blue butthurt snowflakes matter

A high school put books about police violence on a summer reading list. A police union wants them removed.
A South Carolina police union president said suggesting students read The Hate U Give and All American Boys is “almost an indoctrination.”

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/...ource=facebook

creekdipper 07-05-18 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 13366234)
Blue butthurt snowflakes matter

A high school put books about police violence on a summer reading list. A police union wants them removed.
A South Carolina police union president said suggesting students read The Hate U Give and All American Boys is “almost an indoctrination.”

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/...ource=facebook

"Blue butthurt snowflakes, huh?"

Let's look at the facts. Students were given eight choices from a summer reading list. 25% of those choices centered around the them of police brutality. Didn't see any corresponding choices centered around the particular challenges faced by law enforcement.

25%.

That's a staggering percentage given the multitude of themes available for examination and considering that the books were not selected as part of a themed course (such as one examining violence in modern culture).

As a former literature teacher charged with selecting course material and who sees the value of incorporating current literature rather than solely concentrating on "the classics," I believe one selection would have been plenty. Two is overkill and suggests an agenda on the part of the instructor, particularly when there is not a corresponding choice offering a sympathetic portrayal of law enforcement.

Having been charged with selecting reading material not only for individual classrooms but for entire system curricula, I feel comfortable in saying that there appears to be an agenda on the part of the person who picked those choices.

Red Hood 07-08-18 09:32 PM

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This is why players kneel. Look at this macho cop pulling his gun and pointing it at kids.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An El Paso cop pointed his gun at a group of children. A boy is pulled to the ground &amp; handcuffed. The cop extends his nightstick &amp; yells at the group to get back. Then the boy recording the video is handcuffed. Video: <a href="https://t.co/ctfV6DgX28">https://t.co/ctfV6DgX28</a> Article: <a href="https://t.co/gkQruMivj7">https://t.co/gkQruMivj7</a> <a href="https://t.co/cbbgHgfLC8">pic.twitter.com/cbbgHgfLC8</a></p>&mdash; The Appeal (@theappeal) <a href="https://twitter.com/theappeal/status/1015722486300737536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 7, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Red Hood 07-13-18 07:58 AM

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Florida Police Chief Told Cops to Arrest Random Black People to Boost Stats
By
Adam K. Raymond


Raimundo Atesiano, former police chief in Biscayne Park. Photo: Biscayne Park Police Department
Officers working on a small-town Florida police force were directed to arrest any black person with “somewhat of a record” and pin unrelated crimes on them, the Miami Herald reports. The goal of this clearly illegal and highly unethical practice was to achieve perfect crime stats, which the department frequently boasted about, even if they were fake.

It worked, for a time at least. In 2013 and 2014, the police in Biscayne Park, Florida, a quiet suburb of Miami, solved 29 of 30 burglary cases. It was a point of pride for former chief Raimundo Atesiano, and according to one officer who worked under him, he wanted to keep those stats by any means necessary.

In an interview conducted as a part of a 2014 internal problem, officer Anthony De La Torre relayed what he was told by the department’s leaders: “‘If they have burglaries that are open cases that are not solved yet, if you see anybody black walking through our streets and they have somewhat of a record, arrest them so we can pin them for all the burglary.’ They were basically doing this to have a 100% clearance rate for the city.”

Three other officers interviewed as a part of that probe told an investigator that Atesiano and other commanders said to frame people so their stats would look more impressive. One of them, Omar Martinez, said he refused, telling investigators that he told commanders, “I will not arrest an innocent person in order to make the department look good.”

Atesiano, who denies directing officers to target innocent black people, resigned as the 2014 probe was being conducted. The following year, the department failed to solve any of the 19 burglary cases put in front of it.

Last month, Atesiano and two of his former officers were charged by federal prosecutors for one specific abuse of power. According to prosecutors, they framed a 16-year-old for four different burglaries while “knowing that there was no evidence and no lawful basis to support such charges.” The victim of that framing was black.

And that doesn’t appear to be the only time the Biscayne Park police zeroed in on one person and framed him for a host of crimes. In February of 2014, a black man was arrested and charged with five burglaries in one day. Prosecutors eventually dropped all the charges.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...ost-stats.html

And again, this is why players kneel.

inri222 07-13-18 08:40 AM

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Crossing the street while black in Chicago is now a crime.
I bet the cop's a Democrat. :sarcasm:

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Draven 07-13-18 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 13371049)
Crossing the street while black in Chicago is now a crime.
I bet the cop's a Democrat. :sarcasm:

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Ah, another asshole cop who doesn't understand how laws work.

inri222 07-13-18 11:32 AM

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Remember, it's just a few bad apples.

Probe found Fla. police chief told officers to pin unsolved crimes on random black people: report

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbyi...n-random-black

movieguru 07-14-18 11:56 PM

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Cops use coin flip app to decide wheather to arrest speeder while being recorded on their own video cams.

http://abc11.com/video-shows-cops-us...rrest/3763711/

Not only that but they berate the girl who they claim was going 85 MPH in wet conditions, telling her that she putting other people's lives in jeapordy by driving that fast. While in their patrol car they stated they were driving 90 MPH in wet conditions to catch up to her. If I had to guess it would be more dangerous to drive in wet conditions at 90 MPH than 85 and would put others in more jeapordy.

grundle 07-17-18 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by grundle (Post 13359343)
In East Pittsburgh (which is not part of Pittsburgh) a police officer shot and killed an unarmed 17-year-old black male who was running away:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...ntwon_Rose_Jr.


The unarmed 17-year-old black male who was shot and killed by the police while running away from the police was a passenger in a car, and a different passenger in that car, who was also a 17-year-old black male, had committed a drive by shooting from that same car earlier that evening. The guy that got shot and killed by the police had not fired any shots. However, he did have an empty 9-millimeter clip in his pocket.

I'm no legal expert, but I think there's a good case to be made that the 17-year-old who committed the drive-by shooting should be charged with felony murder for the death of the 17-year-old who was shot and killed by the police.


http://www.post-gazette.com/news/cri...s/201807140057

He [Antwon Rose] was a passenger during a drive-by shooting that night, officials have said, but he did not fire any shots. Zaijuan Hester, 17, fired through a back window, according to a criminal complaint. He has since been charged as an adult with attempted murder and related charges. During a traffic stop a few minutes later, Antwon was fatally shot as he ran from the car.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.3491ca839fab

Rose was found with an empty 9-millimeter clip in his pocket.

WCChiCubsFan 07-27-18 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by movieguru (Post 13372102)
Cops use coin flip app to decide wheather to arrest speeder while being recorded on their own video cams.

http://abc11.com/video-shows-cops-us...rrest/3763711/

Not only that but they berate the girl who they claim was going 85 MPH in wet conditions, telling her that she putting other people's lives in jeapordy by driving that fast. While in their patrol car they stated they were driving 90 MPH in wet conditions to catch up to her. If I had to guess it would be more dangerous to drive in wet conditions at 90 MPH than 85 and would put others in more jeapordy.

Fired.


Georgia officers fired after probe reveals coin-toss determined arrest

Red Hood 07-27-18 06:31 PM

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Look at this racist asshole cop who got fired, but no criminal charges on him
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This police officer was fired for tasing a man who was handcuffed and following directions <a href="https://t.co/2dLeIc4YsQ">pic.twitter.com/2dLeIc4YsQ</a></p>&mdash; NowThis (@nowthisnews) <a href="https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1022973153297887233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Red Hood 07-27-18 09:32 PM

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Ving Rhames Says Police Held Him at Gunpoint in His Own Home

https://www.thewrap.com/ving-rhames-...-his-own-home/

inri222 07-30-18 12:29 PM

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A Hispanic family looking for justice in Mississippi, good luck with that.

Mississippi cops went to the wrong house and killed an innocent man. A grand jury just refused to indict them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.898feea873c4

grundle 08-01-18 07:38 AM

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This New York Times article is about Minneapolis police shooting and killing a man, after someone called the police and said he was shooting a gun in the air. The police claim the man pointed his gun at them. The article includes some very shaky video footage from a police body cam. The New York Times seems to be unsure if the police shooting was justified or not.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/u...n-blevins.html

Protestors responded by blocking trains:

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/0...evins-shooting

I don't know if the police shooting was justified or not. But I find it interesting that the protestors have already made up their mind even though the New York Times itself is unsure.

inri222 08-01-18 10:51 AM

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"Good guy" with a gun is shot dead by police. So much for owning a gun for self-defense.

Police fatally shoot Bronze Star recipient after he shot home intruder

https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-fat...ry?id=56945256

inri222 08-08-18 08:56 AM

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It's not the Onion.

Ohio police chief died after overdosing on drugs he allegedly stole from his department's evidence room

https://www.businessinsider.com/poli...ce-room-2018-8

inri222 08-08-18 10:22 AM

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That is one scary black dude, so scary that he had to be tased while sitting with his back turned. :sarcasm:


slop101 08-08-18 10:27 AM

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I know people who are so stiff (even young, in shape people) that would not be able to comply with the command of putting their legs out straight while sitting on a curb. Hell, I'd like to see that fatass cop try it.

story 08-08-18 11:43 AM

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Yeah, I just did a group workout with a trainer who led us through the extreme pieces of exercise practices and talked to us about how to modify it. She was intense, and yet understanding. Some law enforcement strike me as intense but not all that understanding about the ability to comply.

"I can't breathe," and all that...

slop101 08-08-18 12:12 PM

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Also, another cop (off-screen, no sub-titled) was yelling at him to cross his legs - so he's getting conflicting commands.

Giantrobo 08-08-18 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13386184)
Also, another cop (off-screen, no sub-titled) was yelling at him to cross his legs - so he's getting conflicting commands.

Yep. I'm pretty sure many citizens have been beaten and/or killed over that very thing.

Mabuse 08-09-18 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 13386062)
It's not the Onion.

Ohio police chief died after overdosing on drugs he allegedly stole from his department's evidence room

https://www.businessinsider.com/poli...ce-room-2018-8

See? This thread isn’t all bad news.


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