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Dave99 11-10-15 06:33 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12641502)
A couple of snitches turn in their fellow officer. The dirty bastards should get one in the face like Serpico. :sarcasm:

St. Pete officer resigns after takedown

http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local...down/75505906/

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Takes a real man to throw down a guy in cuffs who is half his size.

I always like the part where they resign before the investigation is complete. Apparently hoping it all goes away then, and he can go join another local force.

Deftones 11-10-15 07:07 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by Dave99 (Post 12641654)
Takes a real man to throw down a guy in cuffs who is half his size.

I always like the part where they resign before the investigation is complete. Apparently hoping it all goes away then, and he can go join another local force.

I don't know how it is in other states, but AZPOST does law enforcement certification here. If someone is to be charged, they can pull their certification, which prevents them from working in any law enforcement capacity in the state.

slop101 11-10-15 07:24 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by wearetheborg (Post 12641509)
Of course we should not care at all about what happened before the camera started rolling. Women cops, white cops, black cops, as in this video group, are all out to get aggressive against random jaywalkers.

Seriously? Unless the jaywalker was swinging at the cops and/or brandishing a weapon, the cops were WAY the fuck out of line.

wearetheborg 11-10-15 10:02 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12641686)
Seriously? Unless the jaywalker was swinging at the cops

And we know the jaywalker was NOT swinging at the cops because?

Barth 11-10-15 10:05 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12641686)
Seriously? Unless the jaywalker was swinging at the cops and/or brandishing a weapon, the cops were WAY the fuck out of line.

Still we don't even know what happened for them to get arrested right? Obviously we don't know because we don't see it. So let's pass judgment without knowing the whole story. Show me the 10 minutes before that and it would be a legit discussion.
The group saying "I'm not resisting" is a farce. They are totally resisting. I'd hate to be an officer of the peace today.

wearetheborg 11-10-15 10:06 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12641502)
A couple of snitches turn in their fellow officer. The dirty bastards should get one in the face like Serpico. :sarcasm:

St. Pete officer resigns after takedown

http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local...down/75505906/

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Legit case of "Cop Behaving Badly".

slop101 11-11-15 12:52 AM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by Barth (Post 12641797)
Still we don't even know what happened for them to get arrested right? Obviously we don't know because we don't see it. So let's pass judgment without knowing the whole story. Show me the 10 minutes before that and it would be a legit discussion.
The group saying "I'm not resisting" is a farce. They are totally resisting. I'd hate to be an officer of the peace today.

"10 minutes" :lol: - with shit like that, I should know better than to take you seriously, but yes, we do know what happened.


We exchanged Facebook messages with Rolando Ramiro, the young man who recorded the incident. He said he and his friends began crossing a barricaded street when the light changed as they were crossing, which made the cops demand their identifications, accusing them of jaywalking.

“Fuck no,” one of his friend’s said, pointing out that it was a barricaded street with no traffic, essentially a legal pedestrian walkway.

Apparently, the cop wanted them to stop for a yellow crossing light as they were stepping into the street, even though the street was barricaded forbidding any cars from entering.

And it doesn’t matter anyway. What matters is that the Austin Police Department acted like complete thugs. The punching. The kicking. The arrogance.
The cops were butthurt that their authority wasn't respected. If this is how they act, then fuck their authority.

The students were dicks, still not a reason to beat them up.

Lt Ripley 11-11-15 01:23 AM

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Odd to see cars drive by in the background of the video. I would like to see what led up to it. What part was barricaded, if the barricades said do not cross, etc.

wearetheborg 11-11-15 02:48 AM

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the cops demand their identifications, accusing them of jaywalking.

“Fuck no,” one of his friend’s said, pointing out that it was a barricaded street with no traffic, essentially a legal pedestrian walkway.

Apparently, the cop wanted them to stop for a yellow crossing light as they were stepping into the street

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12641857)
The cops were butthurt that their authority wasn't respected. If this is how they act, then fuck their authority.

The students were dicks, still not a reason to beat them up.

So lets see, the cops wanted these people to do something, these people instead disobeyed twice, and cussed at the police.

I am shocked, SHOCKED that cops then used force rather than just giving them the eye. So completely unexpected.

About being beaten up: were bones broken? Lacerations? Organ damage? Brain trauma?

All this for what? Because these numbskulls wanted to get into a pissing match with the police over a goddamn traffic light crossing? Was it worth it?

inri222 11-11-15 08:26 AM

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Aggravated discharge of a firearm!, I wonder what would have happened if it was a civilian who did this?

Chicago Police officer charged with shooting at off-duty cop

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/7...oting-duty-cop

Draven 11-11-15 08:57 AM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by wearetheborg (Post 12641871)
So lets see, the cops wanted these people to do something, these people instead disobeyed twice, and cussed at the police.

About being beaten up: were bones broken? Lacerations? Organ damage? Brain trauma?

Isn't a punch to the head potentially lethal? Doesn't seem like they did anything that warranted being punched in the head. But in this day and age, apparently cops can beat you down for damn near anything.

As for "cussing" at the police :lol: If the cops can't take a few curse words, they are in the wrong business.

Dave99 11-11-15 10:29 AM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12642000)
Aggravated discharge of a firearm!, I wonder what would have happened if it was a civilian who did this?

Chicago Police officer charged with shooting at off-duty cop

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/7...oting-duty-cop

I see it's only taken a year just to get to the first stage of prosecution, in what appears to be an open & shut case (he admitted shooting for christs sake). But he's been on paid desk duty the whole time, so he's got that going for him.

inri222 11-11-15 11:38 AM

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Good-bye!

Video shows Florida police officer take student down
Officer Mario Badia relieved of duty

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/sur...udent/36373888

inri222 11-11-15 11:42 AM

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Unbelievable

Georgia man acquitted after 29 years files civil rights suit

Timothy Johnson said he was frightened into pleading guilty for a murder he didn't commit after police dangled him off a bridge three decades ago,
brought charges against his parents and threatened him with the death penalty.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-ge...s-suit-2015-11

majorjoe23 11-11-15 11:57 AM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by wearetheborg (Post 12641871)
All this for what? Because these numbskulls wanted to get into a pissing match with the police over a goddamn traffic light crossing? Was it worth it?

To put it another way:

All this for what? Because the police wanted to get into a pissing match with these numbskulls over a goddamn traffic light crossing? Was it worth it?

wearetheborg 11-11-15 12:07 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by majorjoe23 (Post 12642184)
To put it another way:

All this for what? Because the police wanted to get into a pissing match with these numbskulls over a goddamn traffic light crossing? Was it worth it?

Who won that pissing match? Who always wins such encounters?

The police has more to gain in a demonstration that their authority must be obeyed.
First comes cussing. Then comes disobeying police orders. Then comes pointing guns at them. Then comes a kid pointing a gun at the police getting shot because society let the situation get so out of hand.

slop101 11-11-15 12:35 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by wearetheborg (Post 12642192)
Who won that pissing match? Who always wins such encounters?

The police has more to gain in a demonstration that their authority must be obeyed.
First comes cussing. Then comes disobeying police orders. Then comes pointing guns at them. Then comes a kid pointing a gun at the police getting shot because society let the situation get so out of hand.

No. FUCK no! It's on the cops to deescalate a situation, not over-react, which is what they did here, beyond a shadow of a doubt. They're supposed to have the training to do so, to protect & serve. The cops here are absolutely the ones who made this situation worse than it needed to be.

Draven 11-11-15 12:39 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12642220)
No. FUCK no! It's on the cops to deescalate a situation, not over-react, which is what they did here, beyond a shadow of a doubt. They're supposed to have the training to do so, to protect & serve. The cops here are absolutely the ones who made this situation worse than it needed to be.

Agreed. The idea that it's somehow inevitable that cops will have to beat someone in order to end any conflict is downright frightening.

CaptainMarvel 11-11-15 12:47 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12642220)
No. FUCK no! It's on the cops to deescalate a situation, not over-react, which is what they did here, beyond a shadow of a doubt. They're supposed to have the training to do so, to protect & serve. The cops here are absolutely the ones who made this situation worse than it needed to be.

Sorry, no. People like to toss out "deescalate" as a buzz word, but it isn't the job of the police to bow down and retreat to avoid a conflict. At times you have to escalate a situation in order to gain control.

Dave99 11-11-15 12:50 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12642171)
Good-bye!

Video shows Florida police officer take student down
Officer Mario Badia relieved of duty

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/sur...udent/36373888

yeah, didn't even cuff him or arrest him, just threw him down to teach him a lesson I guess (respect my authoritah!). He's toast.

Draven 11-11-15 01:07 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel (Post 12642234)
Sorry, no. People like to toss out "deescalate" as a buzz word, but it isn't the job of the police to bow down and retreat to avoid a conflict. At times you have to escalate a situation in order to gain control.

So not punching someone in the head is "bow down and retreat?" You do know there are other options, right?


Originally Posted by Dave99 (Post 12642237)
yeah, didn't even cuff him or arrest him, just threw him down to teach him a lesson I guess (respect my authoritah!). He's toast.

I can't wait to hear the defense on that one.

CaptainMarvel 11-11-15 01:16 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 12642255)
So not punching someone in the head is "bow down and retreat?" You do know there are other options, right?

Yes, that's what I said. Only two options. :rolleyes:

slop101 11-11-15 01:19 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel (Post 12642234)
Sorry, no. People like to toss out "deescalate" as a buzz word, but it isn't the job of the police to bow down and retreat to avoid a conflict. At times you have to escalate a situation in order to gain control.

"bow down and retreat" is not at all what I meant, and you fucking know it! The fact that you would reduce it to something reductive like that means that I can easily ignore everything you have to say since you're not coming at this rationally.

CaptainMarvel 11-11-15 01:27 PM

Re: The "Cops Behaving Badly" Thread
 

Originally Posted by slop101
No. FUCK no! It's on the cops to deescalate a situation, not over-react, which is what they did here, beyond a shadow of a doubt.


Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12642273)
"bow down and retreat" is not at all what I meant, and you fucking know it! The fact that you would reduce it to something reductive like that means that I can easily ignore everything you have to say since you're not coming at this rationally.

:lol: Who's not being rational? Maybe you should get your emotions in check?

It's not "on the cops" to deescalate all the time. Sometimes it's appropriate and sometimes it isn't. It is always on private citizens to comply with lawful orders, however.

inri222 11-11-15 01:58 PM

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Family Files $25m Lawsuit

Driven to hospital, Virginia man tased, shackled and dies in police custody

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/driven-ho...police-custody


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