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Old 10-20-15, 11:22 AM
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Old 10-21-15, 12:47 AM
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This may not be up long. Kellogg apparently had it removed once already.
Just curious, what compelled you to share it in the first place?
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Old 10-21-15, 10:39 AM
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Just curious, what compelled you to share it in the first place?
I'd imagine because police brutality creates suicide bombers. (note the girl being beaten in this video is the suicide bomber in the last ad).

I have to say, I love the part with the milk going all over the place in the videos. It's funny because it's true.
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Just curious, what compelled you to share it in the first place?
I found it to be amusing satire from the standpoint that societally we have so many instances where cops use excessive force that this shows them using a children's cereal with a well known character and phrase to get ready for a full day of kicking the shit out of those who don't follow every order, legal or not. The satirical situation is that these same people kicking the shit out of people are the ones we have charged with serving and protecting us.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...-chair-n443251

Graphic video obtained by NBC News shows sheriff's deputies tasing a mentally ill Georgia man in the groin while he was restrained in a chair.
Pretty sure I saw that ad on Craigslist in the Casual Encounters section ...

Mentally ill man seeks friends for sexual encounters. Must be taser certified. Looking for folks to electrocute my junk while I am strapped to a chair. Video will be shot so you will not be accused of wrongdoing. Made in Georgia (for the tax breaks).
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Details murky in fatal police shooting of Florida musician Corey Jones

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...020-story.html
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Old 10-21-15, 12:28 PM
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Details murky in fatal police shooting of Florida musician Corey Jones

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...020-story.html
There is a very good chance his gun called the dude killed.
Guy buys gun 3 days earlier.
Car breaks down in the middle of the night.
Guy waits outside with gun ready.
Plainclothes police officer stops by to help/see what is the problem.
Guy gets scared as the unknown to him cop approaches.
Shows gun and tries to be aggressive.
Dies.

Even though both people behaved rationally, a death occurred. I don't know how this could have been avoided. As a civilian in the middle of the night, of course you are scared if a dude approaches you. Conversely, as a cop, your life is also in danger if the other dude has a gun and you know nothing about the dude.
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Old 10-21-15, 01:05 PM
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Plain clothes officers in unmarked cars shouldn't be making traffic stops, it's as simple as that.
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Old 10-21-15, 01:17 PM
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If what happened did occur, it's also not wise to point weapons at other people. Regardless of whether the person is wearing an LE uniform. Rather simple as well.

Benjamin Crump.

Unfortunately, whenever the name of this guy comes up, I think it's generally assumed the person shot was more than likely responsible for his own demise...and the family is looking for damage control, as well a few extra bucks to "ease the pain of their departed."

But I'm sure this is not the case, as this cop planted the gun outside the vehicle and was looking for a black man to shoot that night.
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Originally Posted by wearetheborg View Post
There is a very good chance his gun called the dude killed.
Guy buys gun 3 days earlier.
Car breaks down in the middle of the night.
Guy waits outside with gun ready.
Plainclothes police officer stops by to help/see what is the problem.
Guy gets scared as the unknown to him cop approaches.
Shows gun and tries to be aggressive.
Dies.
Are these song lyrics?
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Originally Posted by Dave99 View Post
Plain clothes officers in unmarked cars shouldn't be making traffic stops, it's as simple as that.
Why assume it was a traffic stop? Maybe the officer was checking on what looked like an disabled car, or even an abandoned car.
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Old 10-21-15, 02:39 PM
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Why assume it was a traffic stop? Maybe the officer was checking on what looked like an disabled car, or even an abandoned car.
If it's abandoned, then there isn't much urgency. Call a marked unit.

edit: plains clothes officers in unmarked cars shouldn't make routine traffic/patrol type stops unless it's a clear emergency situation. Maybe that makes my idea more clear?

There are pictures all the time of plain clothes cops that many/most people would never identify as an officer under any circumstances. Tats all over, massive beards, wearing nfl jerseys etc. At 3am, nobody is going to see a 3 inch badge on a neck chain or belt.

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Old 10-21-15, 02:43 PM
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Why assume it was a traffic stop? Maybe the officer was checking on what looked like an disabled car, or even an abandoned car.
It sounds like he was trying to offer assistance. You know, like we would want police to do.

It's a sad situation all around. Good thing both good guys had guns.
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It sounds like he was trying to offer assistance. You know, like we would want police to do.

It's a sad situation all around. Good thing both good guys had guns.
This.

Part of the problem is that the public has a misperception of what guns mean. There was a thread here in which someone (who claimed to be from law enforcement) said wielding a gun at someone counts as assault with a deadly weapon even if the gun is not fired. Even if the person was at home, and pointed the gun at hoodlums outside his house.

Popular culture gives the impression that pointing a gun at someone is an instrument to tell people to not mess with us, whereas legally apparently it's already assault.

Anyone remember the thread about the incident where some cops banged on some mistaken apartment in the middle of the night without identifying themselves as LEOs, guy opened the door gun in hand, and got shot by the police?
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Guns Behaving Badly forum?
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Old 10-21-15, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wearetheborg View Post
Anyone remember the thread about the incident where some cops banged on some mistaken apartment in the middle of the night without identifying themselves as LEOs, guy opened the door gun in hand, and got shot by the police?
http://www.wesh.com/news/judge-rules...-2012/28211750
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As mentioned before, the easy solution is simply don't answer the door for anyone you don't know/aren't expecting.

Including the police.
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In both cases it proves without a doubt Citizens are not allowed to defend themselves.
Both men would probably still have been killed by these LEOs even without their guns...
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As mentioned before, the easy solution is simply don't answer the door for anyone you don't know/aren't expecting.

Including the police.
Yeah and according to many here and LEOs across the nation...you would be just asking to be justifiably killed or assaulted by the Officers
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Yeah and according to many here and LEOs across the nation...you would be just asking to be justifiably killed or assaulted by the Officers
"Many here and LEOs across the nation" = nobody ever.
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As mentioned before, the easy solution is simply don't answer the door for anyone you don't know/aren't expecting.

Including the police.
Can you legally ignore the police knocking on your door?
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Can you legally ignore the police knocking on your door?
absolutely. If they have a right to be inside, they'll come with a warrant and deal with the closed/locked door in their own way. Or exigent circumstances (like a 911 call).
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Originally Posted by fujishig View Post
Can you legally ignore the police knocking on your door?
Absent a warrant (or warrant exception*) or something like a mandatory evacuation, yes.

(*E.g. an exigency that negates the warrant requirement, like they can hear somebody being hurt)
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Old 10-22-15, 12:40 AM
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In both cases it proves without a doubt Citizens are not allowed to defend themselves.
Both men would probably still have been killed by these LEOs even without their guns...
Wait, are you saying that these LEOs
(i) knock on doors and kill whoever answers the door, and
(ii) kill if they come across a person whose car has broken down?
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Originally Posted by fujishig View Post
Can you legally ignore the police knocking on your door?
You should never answer the door for the police. You may just accidentally get shot in the face. But that cop will get whats coming to them. It may even be investigated internally. Fuckers are serious about making sure they serve and protect us, no?

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.s...incart_m-rpt-1
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