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Is the first stupid Republican debate today?

South Carolina I think?

Important things to look for will be:

-How many people tune in

-Exactly how badly Obama sucks, although we are very proud of what was accomplished in bringing a terrorist to justice recently

-The deficit: How many years will it take for our country to collapse if Democrats stay in charge?

-Health care: If we repeal it, how will we ensure that enough sick people stay uninsured to make it feasible privately?

-Some incredibly lame one-liners... will there at least be one memorable moment?
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Re: Is the first stupid Republican debate today?

who is debating?
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Re: Is the first stupid Republican debate today?

Pawlenty (not sure who that is but the name is familiar)

Santorum (no clue... I've also heard this name though)

Herman Cain (???)

Ron Paul (This guy I have heard of. )

Gary Johnson (Nope, don't know him)

No Romney. No Huckleberry.

I guess this is an opportunity for introductions since we'll be hearing a lot from most of these people for the next year. Not sure if any of these guys are black (Gary Johnson sounds like he could be) but I'm guessing there will be pictures up tomorrow.
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Herman Cain is black. And a lunatic.

Nice to see the Repubs step it up a notch this year.

And my boy, Rick Santorum. Go get 'em Rick!

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Re: Is the first stupid Republican debate today?

Originally Posted by Thor Simpson View Post
Pawlenty (not sure who that is but the name is familiar)

Santorum (no clue... I've also heard this name though)

Herman Cain (???)

Ron Paul (This guy I have heard of. )

Gary Johnson (Nope, don't know him)

No Romney. No Huckleberry.

I guess this is an opportunity for introductions since we'll be hearing a lot from most of these people for the next year. Not sure if any of these guys are black (Gary Johnson sounds like he could be) but I'm guessing there will be pictures up tomorrow.
Why am I not surprised that you only know of Ron Paul?

You are pulling our legs, aren't you?
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Originally Posted by Thor Simpson View Post
Pawlenty (not sure who that is but the name is familiar)
Former Governor of Minnesota
Santorum (no clue... I've also heard this name though)
Former Senator from Pennsylvania
Herman Cain (???)
Talk radio host and former CEO of Godfather's pizza. Also, he's black
Ron Paul (This guy I have heard of. )
Representative from Texas and anti-Fed loon
Gary Johnson (Nope, don't know him)
Former Governor of New Mexico. Wants to legalize drugs (yay!) and privatize everything (boo!).
No Romney. No Huckleberry.

I guess this is an opportunity for introductions since we'll be hearing a lot from most of these people for the next year. Not sure if any of these guys are black (Gary Johnson sounds like he could be) but I'm guessing there will be pictures up tomorrow.
Doubtful. Pawlenty will be around for a while unless he implodes. Paul will keep making noise, even though he's no more likely to get elected President than I am. The rest of them are about as relevant as Mike Gravel, and as soon as there are real candidates to pay attention to, the world will go back to ignoring them.
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Originally Posted by Thor Simpson View Post
Santorum (no clue... I've also heard this name though)
Just go to google and type in santorum.

You're welcome
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Re: Is the first stupid Republican debate today?

Stupid republicans need the the most attention!
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Re: Is the first stupid Republican debate today?

Originally Posted by classicman2 View Post
You are pulling our legs, aren't you?
No, just one of them.

Honestly, I of course know vague details about some of these guys, such as what state they are from. I don't know much of substance.

I have mostly heard about Romney, Palin, Trump, Christie and others who will not be in attendance. I wonder why that is.
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I have mostly heard about Romney, Palin, Trump, Christie and others who will not be in attendance. I wonder why that is.
Romney hasn't officially declared yet. In light of the res of the field, it's in his interest to hold off for another few months -- there's no upside for him to getting down in the muck with the also-rans until he has to.

Palin and Trump aren't really going to run because they are hucksters who can make tons of money off of flirting with running and not having to do the actual work of running. Neither one wants to give up their cushy TV gigs and subject themselves to the rigors of a campaign.

Christie has shown no sign that he's interested in running in 2012 and has repeatedly said he is absolutely not running. People have flip-flopped on that before, but I don't get that vibe from Christie (remember back in 2006-07 when so many people insisted Condi would be running despite her repeated statements to the contrary? Christie feels like that to me).
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I didn't realize there was a debate tonight until I saw it on the TV listings. Caught me off guard since I didn't realize the debates were starting this early.
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If that crazy guy had invented Godfather's Pizza, he'd get my vote. Instead, I hate him because the Godfather's here closed years ago.
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I hope T-Paw breaks out his southern accent tonight!
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I'm trying to think of what would actually convince me to watch this entire debate. $500 is probably as low as I would go.
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Romney hasn't officially declared yet. In light of the res of the field, it's in his interest to hold off for another few months -- there's no upside for him to getting down in the muck with the also-rans until he has to.

Palin and Trump aren't really going to run because they are hucksters who can make tons of money off of flirting with running and not having to do the actual work of running. Neither one wants to give up their cushy TV gigs and subject themselves to the rigors of a campaign.

Christie has shown no sign that he's interested in running in 2012 and has repeatedly said he is absolutely not running. People have flip-flopped on that before, but I don't get that vibe from Christie (remember back in 2006-07 when so many people insisted Condi would be running despite her repeated statements to the contrary? Christie feels like that to me).
The big question is why is Romney wasting his time? He can't win. He can't be that delusional to think he can win the GOP nomination.
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Originally Posted by classicman2 View Post
The big question is why is Romney wasting his time? He can't win. He can't be that delusional to think he can win the GOP nomination.
At this point, I think Romney wins the nomination by default. I just don't see any of the other candidates people have been talking about (except maybe Mitch Daniels) beating him.
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Re: Is the first stupid Republican debate today?

I'm surprised that so far most of these candidates are FOR getting out of the middle east.
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Re: Is the first stupid Republican debate today?

In other news Sean Hannity is getting ready to talk about how great they ALL were.
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I liked that the first time it was asked for a show of hands on a question Santorum's hand went up before the question.
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I liked that the first time it was asked for a show of hands on a question Santorum's hand went up before the question.
Well he started the question "can I see how many would raise their hand...?" (or something like that) He could raise his hand!
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At this point, I think Romney wins the nomination by default. I just don't see any of the other candidates people have been talking about (except maybe Mitch Daniels) beating him.
He can't win the religious conservatives nor the economic conservatives. He can't win the Tea Party block.

He probably can win what is left of the 'Rockefeller Republicans.' That won't get it.
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Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
He could raise his hand!
He's got my vote

Glad Johnson mentioned his lack of questions. As a supporter I long for the type of patronizing coverage the GOP gives Paul.
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Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
Well he started the question "can I see how many would raise their hand...?" (or something like that) He could raise his hand!
I guess they really don't want McCain to be the nominee again.

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Too soon?
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He can't win the religious conservatives nor the economic conservatives. He can't win the Tea Party block.

He probably can win what is left of the 'Rockefeller Republicans.' That won't get it.
He has strong support among the business elites. Will that be enough? I don't know. If the social conservatives don't have someone to rally around, it's possible. And I think Romney is, at this point, the default choice for rank and file Republicans who don't have strong views. I think at this point, and in the absence of anyone who can engender strong support amongst a segment of the populace, I think that's enough.

The good news is that we'll find out in the next 12 months.
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Originally Posted by Nesbit View Post
He's got my vote

Glad Johnson mentioned his lack of questions. As a supporter I long for the type of patronizing coverage the GOP gives Paul.
Same thing I thought! "welcome to Ron Paul's world buddy!"

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