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Your ideal Presidential candidate on paper

We hear varying degrees of what qualifies a candidate for the job, what kind of experience they need, etc. So I'm curious, if you could build a Presidential candidate of your own, ignoring qualities such as personality, race, gender, and even party... what would that person's résumé look like?

Put a star in front of the items that you feel any reasonable candidate should posses (in other words, a candidate without that quality you would hesitate to vote for because of it)

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*Undergraduate Degree
*3 years in office as a Governor or in Congress
*Previously established career in the private sector
Masters Degree
Military service
Has a Twitter account
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The Twitter thing.
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35 years old or more.
U.S citizen born here

That's it. There are no magic qualifications IMO. Harvard and Yale degrees sure don't guarantee non-suckiness. Neither does previous executive experience nor representative experience.
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Re: Your ideal Presidential candidate on paper

Originally Posted by Thor Simpson View Post
We hear varying degrees of what qualifies a candidate for the job, what kind of experience they need, etc. So I'm curious, if you could build a Presidential candidate of your own, ignoring qualities such as personality, race, gender, and even party... what would that person's résumé look like?
It's not so important to me because our president isn't all powerful. He still has to bow down before Congress and the Courts.
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35 years old or more.
U.S citizen born here

That's it. There are no magic qualifications IMO. Harvard and Yale degrees sure don't guarantee non-suckiness. Neither does previous executive experience nor representative experience.
I agree.
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Re: Your ideal Presidential candidate on paper

Ignoring magical qualifications that would make a candidate good no matter what, what would be your ideal qualifications assuming all else was well?
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Ignoring magical qualifications that would make a candidate good no matter what, what would be your ideal qualifications assuming all else was well?
Male - handsome - well spoken - very appealing to women
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Male - handsome - well spoken - very appealing to women
No matter how many times you ask I'm still not interested in the job. Sorry.
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So nobody here complained about Obama's (or Sarah Palin's) experience as a point of concern?

Perhaps it's easier to think about what did concern you about previous candidates, and then determine what the inverse is.
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Re: Your ideal Presidential candidate on paper

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So nobody here complained about Obama's (or Sarah Palin's) experience as a point of concern?

Perhaps it's easier to think about what did concern you about previous candidates, and then determine what the inverse is.
I sure as hell didn't. I voted for someone who had zero executive experience and zero Senate experience.

Now I did point out their experience or lack thereof to expose hypocrisy.
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Originally Posted by Thor Simpson View Post
what would be your ideal qualifications assuming all else was well?
Personally, I would rather have a General or Governor instead of someone from Congress.
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35 years old or more.
U.S citizen born here

That's it. There are no magic qualifications IMO. Harvard and Yale degrees sure don't guarantee non-suckiness. Neither does previous executive experience nor representative experience.
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Re: Your ideal Presidential candidate on paper

What I have disliked about presidential candidates since I've been voting:

1980

Jimmy Carter - incompetent, Southern
Ronald Reagan - too conservative (especially on social issues), perhaps not particularly bright

1984

Ronald Reagan - see above, plus, advancing age
Walter Mondale - too liberal

1988

George Bush - too willing to bend principles in order to become VP
Mike Dukakis - disengaged, technocratic

1992

George Bush - too focused on foreign policy (where he was excellent, BTW), out of touch
Bill Clinton - southern
Ross Perot - nutjob, Texan

1996

Bill Clinton - unprincipled sleazeball
Bob Dole - difficult to take seriously as a candidate
Ross Perot - nutjob, Texan

2000

George W Bush - unknown, Texan, religious
Al Gore - southern, married to "Tipper" Gore

2004

George W Bush - we don't have that much time
John Kerry - emotionally disengaged, unable to define himself

2008

Barack Obama - naivete concerning how work gets done in DC, choice of running mate
John McCain - seems to change views based on whims and grudges, age, choice of running mate
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Yes, I believe that presidential candidates should be housebroken.
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* Must produce a birth certificate (if black)
* Must not shed tears (women and democrats only)
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Originally Posted by wendersfan View Post
What I have disliked about presidential candidates since I've been voting:

1980

Jimmy Carter - incompetent, Southern
Ronald Reagan - too conservative (especially on social issues), perhaps not particularly bright

1984

Ronald Reagan - see above, plus, advancing age
Walter Mondale - too liberal

1988

George Bush - too willing to bend principles in order to become VP
Mike Dukakis - disengaged, technocratic

1992

George Bush - too focused on foreign policy (where he was excellent, BTW), out of touch
Bill Clinton - southern
Ross Perot - nutjob, Texan

1996

Bill Clinton - unprincipled sleazeball
Bob Dole - difficult to take seriously as a candidate
Ross Perot - nutjob, Texan

2000

George W Bush - unknown, Texan, religious
Al Gore - southern, married to "Tipper" Gore

2004

George W Bush - we don't have that much time
John Kerry - emotionally disengaged, unable to define himself

2008

Barack Obama - naivete concerning how work gets done in DC, choice of running mate
John McCain - seems to change views based on whims and grudges, age, choice of running mate
I like how "southern" is a negative with no explanation
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I like how "southern" is a negative with no explanation
That is exactly what I was thinking. That and Texan are now pejoratives.
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That is exactly what I was thinking. That and Texan are now pejoratives.
"Now"?
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Re: Your ideal Presidential candidate on paper

Originally Posted by wendersfan View Post
What I have disliked about presidential candidates since I've been voting:

1980

Jimmy Carter - incompetent, Southern
Ronald Reagan - too conservative (especially on social issues), perhaps not particularly bright

1984

Ronald Reagan - see above, plus, advancing age
Walter Mondale - too liberal

1988

George Bush - too willing to bend principles in order to become VP
Mike Dukakis - disengaged, technocratic

1992

George Bush - too focused on foreign policy (where he was excellent, BTW), out of touch
Bill Clinton - southern
Ross Perot - nutjob, Texan

1996

Bill Clinton - unprincipled sleazeball
Bob Dole - difficult to take seriously as a candidate
Ross Perot - nutjob, Texan

2000

George W Bush - unknown, Texan, religious
Al Gore - southern, married to "Tipper" Gore

2004

George W Bush - we don't have that much time
John Kerry - emotionally disengaged, unable to define himself

2008

Barack Obama - naivete concerning how work gets done in DC, choice of running mate
John McCain - seems to change views based on whims and grudges, age, choice of running mate
That's about the best rundown of the last 30 years of presidents I've seen in a while. I'm not quite as ready to throw 'incompetent' at Carter (more like overwhelmed) but other than that, not bad.
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Me.
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Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
* Must produce a birth certificate (if black)
* Must not shed tears (women and democrats only)
*must talk at length about fresh water fish
*must be willing to work with Republicans (if Democrat)
*must be willing to work with Republicans (if Republican)
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I like how "southern" is a negative with no explanation
When you live in the armpit of the Corn Belt, you have to convince yourself there is some region, any region somewhere worse off and less relevant than yours.
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My ideal candidate is not just on paper, he's out there:

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Originally Posted by orangecrush View Post
That is exactly what I was thinking. That and Texan are now pejoratives.
They sure are. Sorry, but we have had a very disproportionate amount of presidents from the South and they all stunk. The only non-southerners since Kennedy have been Nixon and Reagan* (both from California). And both great presidents in my opinion so my cabidate would look like this:

Not from the South
Prefereably from California
Less than 60 years old
Ivy league under-graduates need not apply
Postgraduate degrees are of no significance unless MBA
Minimal previous experience as a federally elected official (no congressmen please); prefer governor, mayor of major city, or better yet someone from private industry. Ideal candidate could also be military officer or director of major federal department
Lawyers need not apply
Experience in some kind of genuine for-proffit career. No "community organizers", carreer politicians, activists, philanthropists, etc.

If candidate meets all the above criteria and happens to be a woman then I will vote for her, but no women will, so don't waste your time.

Oh and he's got to have a full head of hair. It's a proven fact that the candidate with the most hair always wins.

*I guess GHWBush wasn't from the south, but he sure had some major ties to texas, I think he even maintained a residence there.

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