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Old 11-22-10, 06:35 AM
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http://news.pinkpaper.com/NewsStory/...n-of-gays.aspx

The United Nations has removed a plea for lesbians, gays and bisexuals not to be executed in a narrow vote.

For the last 10 years sexual orientation has been included in a list of discriminatory grounds for executions – gay rights activists say the vote to remove that listing is “dangerous and disturbing.”

The UN resolution urges countries to protect the right to life of all people, calling on them to investigate killings based on discriminatory grounds. Sexual orientation was previously listed as one of these forms of discrimination, alongside ethnicity, religious belief and linguistic minorities.

Others protected by the resolution were human rights defenders (like journalists, lawyers and demonstrators), street children and members of indigenous communities.

But now sexual orientation has been taken out of the list. The amendment was supported by Benin in Africa on behalf of the African Group in the UN General Assembly. It passed on a narrow vote of 79 for, 70 against , 17 abstentions and 26 absent.

Some of those voting to remove sexual orientation were countries where gays are known to be or thought to be executed or summarily killed including Iran, Nigeria, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Iraq.

The UK, US, Australia, New Zealand and many European countries voted in favour of gays.

Cary Alan Johnson, Executive Director of the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission, said: “This vote is a dangerous and disturbing development. It essentially removes the important recognition of the particular vulnerability faced by lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people – a recognition that is crucial at a time when 76 countries around the world criminalise homosexuality, five consider it a capital crime and countries like Uganda are considering adding the death penalty to their laws criminalising homosexuality.”
Looks like this means that countries are now free to murder homosexuals without fear of any UN "investigation."
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Disgusting.
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Sons a bitches!
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Fred Phelps should be pleased.
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For some reason I thought the UN was against capital punishment in general
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Breakdown of the votes:
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gayso...xecutions.html
The votes to amend the resolution were as follows:

In favor of the amendment to remove sexual orientation from the resolution on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions (79):

Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belize, Benin, Botswana, Brunei Dar-Sala, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, China, Comoros, Congo, Cote d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Ghana, Grenada, Guyana, Haiti, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and Grenadines, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Africa, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Syrian Arab Republic, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uzbekistan, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe

Opposed to the amendment to remove sexual orientation from the resolution on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions (70):

Andorra, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bhutan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Guatemala, Hungary, Iceland, India, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, Micronesia (FS), Monaco, Montenegro, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Republic of Moldova, Romania, Samoa, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Timor-Leste, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay, Venezuela

Abstain (17):

Antigua-Barbuda, Barbados, Belarus, Cambodia, Cape Verde, Colombia, Fiji, Mauritius, Mongolia, Papau New Guinea, Philippines, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Trinidad and Tobago, Tuvalu, Vanuatu

Absent (26):

Albania, Bolivia, Central African Republic, Chad, Dominica, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Honduras, Kiribati, Kyrgyzstan, Lao People's Democratic Republic, Marshall Island, Mauritania, Nauru, Nicaragua, Palau, Sao Tome Principe, Seychelles, Solomon Islands, Togo, Tonga, Turkey, Turkmenistan


Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gayso...#ixzz161UfHH1z
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Well, that's awesome.

Concretely it doesn't mean anything, though.
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"In favor of the amendment to remove sexual orientation from the resolution on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions (79):

Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belize, Benin, Botswana, Brunei Dar-Sala, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, China, Comoros, Congo, Cote d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Ghana, Grenada, Guyana, Haiti, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and Grenadines, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Africa, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Syrian Arab Republic, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uzbekistan, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe."


Why, what an amazing coincidence---it's all the OIC countries, with support from Cuba, China, Russia and North Korea. Who could have guessed.
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Sounds like a desperate move by the UN to get Willow Palin to reactivate her Facebook account.
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Nice example of the shortcomings of democracy and of creativity when making thread titles.
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And some countries seem to have contradictory views:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aESdYpJts3Bw
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I'll quote the first words that I spoke after reading about this:

"What the fuck is this shit?"
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Nice example of the shortcomings of democracy and of creativity when making thread titles.
The UN had a policy about investigating executions of homosexuals. They changed that policy. How is that not approval?

If a parent tells their child "you must be home before 11pm or else you're grounded," and then tells the child "you must be home before 11pm and if you're not, we won't punish you," isn't that essentially approving the child's broken curfew?
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If a parent tells their child "you must be home before 11pm or else you're grounded," and then tells the child "you must be home before 11pm and if you're not, we won't punish you," isn't that essentially approving the child's broken curfew?
When your child is out murdering homosexuals after 11pm, you are no longer viewed as an authority figure so it doesn't matter what you say.
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When your child is out murdering homosexuals after 11pm, you are no longer viewed as an authority figure so it doesn't matter what you say.
I lol'ed
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No real surprises on the anti-gay side (except, perhaps, Russia and Cuba). All are countries with poor, largely illiterate, widely religion-indoctrinated populaces.
Some pleasant surprises among those opposed to the amendment. What's curious is South Africa, which shockingly legalized gay marriage a few years ago, yet favoured the amendment.
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Originally Posted by RoyalTea View Post
The UN had a policy about investigating executions of homosexuals. They changed that policy. How is that not approval?

If a parent tells their child "you must be home before 11pm or else you're grounded," and then tells the child "you must be home before 11pm and if you're not, we won't punish you," isn't that essentially approving the child's broken curfew?
Perhaps the majority decided that the laws on homosexuality should be left to individual countries. That sucks, but it hardly means that the UN approves of killing gays.

Now read the Bloomberg article I posted. 2008 was the 1st time that a UN declaration was signed asking for homosexuality to be decriminalized. The usual suspects (Arabs/Africa) didn't sign it, but the US didn't either, using the argument above. Should I then conclude that the US was all for killing homosexuals?

What's odd to me is that the US didn't sign the 2008 declaration, but voted against the proposition (to remove sexual orientation as a protected class) this time, and that Cuba, one of the countries that put forth the 2008 declaration, voted for the proposition this time. Go figure...
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And the list of countries that I have no intention of visiting has, surprisingly, not changed.
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This is disgusting and yet another of many reasons we should withdraw from the UN.

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No real surprises on the anti-gay side (except, perhaps, Russia and Cuba). All are countries with poor, largely illiterate, widely religion-indoctrinated populaces.
Some pleasant surprises among those opposed to the amendment. What's curious is South Africa, which shockingly legalized gay marriage a few years ago, yet favoured the amendment.
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Originally Posted by Norm de Plume View Post
No real surprises on the anti-gay side (except, perhaps, Russia and Cuba). All are countries with poor, largely illiterate, widely religion-indoctrinated populaces.
China, North Korea, Cuba, Viet Nam---the governments are ideologically atheist, not "religion-indoctrinated".

Russia, Cuba, North Korea, Kazhakstan, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan have among the world's highest literacy rates.

Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Brunei, Kuwait are near the top of the world's richest countries, in regards to per captia income.

I think the standard Marxist analysis----that material privation and religious traditions are the roots of oppression---doesn't hold up to much scrutiny.
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Originally Posted by Ky-Fi View Post
I think the standard Marxist analysis----that material privation and religious traditions are the roots of oppression---doesn't hold up to much scrutiny.
This is shocking information. Thank you for sharing it with all of us. You should publish.
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Maybe I'm just uninformed, but I'm pretty sure that being a homosexual in places like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, The Congo, North Korea, etc is not a good thing regardless of what the U.N. says, so I don't see how this changes anything.
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Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet View Post
This is shocking information. Thank you for sharing it with all of us. You should publish.

Well, I do what I can to enlighten the great unwashed masses on this forum.
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I shower my communist/socialist/leftist/liberal ass daily, thank you.

Hey, that was one of my favorite political quips of the last couple years, and Lemmy zings me with it.



"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy…I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

—Three-time U.S. Presidential hopeful and election speech plagiarist Senator Joe Biden, describing fellow Senator and Presidential hopeful Barack Obama


“I take a bath every day.”

—Articulate, bright, mainstream African-American former Presidential candidate Al Sharpton
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Originally Posted by Ky-Fi View Post
I think the standard Marxist analysis----that material privation and religious traditions are the roots of oppression---doesn't hold up to much scrutiny.
Actually, my comments had little to do with a Marxist perspective. I should have written "Most are countries..." rather than "All are countries..." You corrected that.
I think it's safe to say that virtually all of the countries on the pro-amendment side are either poor, have undereducated and/or indigent, and/or heavily religious citizenries, or all of the above. Russia is a more surprising inclusion than Cuba because it is/was an administratively technocratic society where one would think disapproval of homosexuals is viewed as antediluvian. However, it is well-known that a pronounced strain of homophobia congruent with an anti-ethnic fervour runs through Russian society. Cuba is officially atheist, but I'm sure much of its populace is, secretly or openly, religious, and it belongs to the Caribbean bloc, which, you will notice, voted exclusively in favour of the amendment.
The pleasant surprises on the anti-amendment side of the ledger abound: all of Central and South America (with a couple of abstentions and absentees...and, notably, Colombia in favour), which shows the positive influence of the New Leftism down there; all of Eastern Europe, the former SSRs (Chechnya is unaccountably missing, but would almost without doubt be part of the "pro" camp with that lunatic Kadyrov at the helm) and Yugoslav republics; India; East Timor (Timor-Leste). I was hoping to see Turkey there as well, but it absented itself as a sop to Europe.
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