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Old 09-01-10, 11:58 AM
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Libertarian John Stossel blames a 1990 law for something that happened in 1989

These crazy libertarians really need to stop making such ridiculous claims as this.


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By John Stossel

The Americans With Disabilities Act has led to some truly bizarre results. Exxon gave ship captain Joseph Hazelwood a job after he completed alcohol rehab. Hazelwood then drank too much and let the Exxon Valdez run aground in Alaska. Exxon was sued for allowing it to happen. So Exxon prohibited employees who have had a drug or drinking problem from holding safety-sensitive jobs. The result? You guessed it -- employees with a history of alcohol abuse sued under the ADA, demanding their "right" to those jobs. The federal government (Equal Employment Opportunity Commission) supported the employees. Courts are still trying to sort it out.
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Old 09-01-10, 12:16 PM
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Erm... no, he's not blaming the Americans with Disabilities Act for what happened in 1989. How on earth can you read that to claim that's what he's doing?
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You fail at reading comprehension. He says that Exxon was sued under the ADA for things that happened <b>after</b> the Exxon Valdez. Nowhere does it say that Hazelwood was still employed because of the ADA.
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Stossel is more of an anarchist than he is a libertarian.
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John Stossel is a complaint columnist. Please don't take anything he says seriously, because his stories are specifically designed to get the elderly's blood boiling. By designed, I mean he lies.

example: "If you fail to let a customer bring a large snake, which he calls his "service animal," into your restaurant, you could be in trouble."
That's where anyone with common sense should stop reading.

Also, I would like to see him defend his point of view after someone shatters his legs and he can't walk. America is a great country for many reasons, one big one because of our compassionate disability legislation.
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Originally Posted by classicman2 View Post
Stossel is more of an anarchist than he is a libertarian.
Minarchist, maybe. Anarchist, no.
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He was right about the 30 mg of salt thing when he was on ABC.
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Also, I would like to see him defend his point of view after someone shatters his legs and he can't walk. America is a great country for many reasons, one big one because of our compassionate disability legislation.
This has sometimes led to the unintended consequence of disabled people finding it harder to get jobs too. And is there really a good reason to have so many handicap parking spaces at Target?

Do you think that no one would make their stores handicap accessible if they weren’t required to by law?
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Do you think that no one would make their stores handicap accessible if they weren’t required to by law?
I dunno, what was it like before the ADA? Seems like it should be pretty easy to find out.
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I dunno, what was it like before the ADA? Seems like it should be pretty easy to find out.
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I have it on good authority that the ADA was instituted by a puppet government as advance preparation of the inevitable Dalek invasion.
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Originally Posted by classicman2 View Post
Stossel is more of an anarchist than he is a libertarian.
So this isn't a troll post because you used a winkie?

If you read his books or watch his Fox Business Channel program, it's quite clear he is not even close to being an anarchist.
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Don't get so upset over it.

Stossel, whatever he is, makes some silly comments.
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Yeah, movielib, CALM DOWN. WHY SO ANGRY?!!!!!
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Originally Posted by classicman2 View Post
Don't get so upset over it.

Stossel, whatever he is, makes some silly comments.
I wasn't upset. It's just you and your usual shenanigans.

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yeah, movielib, calm down. Why so angry?!!!!!
I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!!
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And is there really a good reason to have so many handicap parking spaces at Target?
Your fat ass can walk the extra 20 feet the same as mine.
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And is there really a good reason to have so many handicap parking spaces at Target?
Better that than pregnant women parking spaces
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You fail at reading comprehension. He says that Exxon was sued under the ADA for things that happened <b>after</b> the Exxon Valdez. Nowhere does it say that Hazelwood was still employed because of the ADA.
Oh.

But I had such fun criticizing my own political label!

Oh well.
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Your fat ass can walk the extra 20 feet the same as mine.
It's a good thing morbid obesity is considered a handicap, so now you can park extra close, and preserve precious calories.
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I'm shocked anyone took this thread seriously.

Because you know, it's been a while since anyone has taken a grundle thread seriously.
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Better that than pregnant women parking spaces
At least I have seen many pregnant woman at Target. I never see people in wheelchairs there. On the other hand, I do see a lot of people in motorized wheelchairs at Wal-Mart.
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Your fat ass can walk the extra 20 feet the same as mine.
So, the good reason is exercise for everyone else?
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I dunno, what was it like before the ADA? Seems like it should be pretty easy to find out.
It was enacted in 1990. There were handicap parking spots and wheelchair ramps at stores before then.
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It was enacted in 1990. There were handicap parking spots and wheelchair ramps at stores before then.
So who cares? The federal government made uniform what states were already moving towards.
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