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How come JFK didn't send U.S. troops to support the Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961?

Old 08-19-10, 01:13 PM
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How come JFK didn't send U.S. troops to support the Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961?

I'm wondering what Kennedy's major resistance to supporting the Cubans during the Bay of Pigs invasion of 1961 was. I know that he was deceived and misled, but why would Kennedy refuse to offer support? What was he afraid of?

We know that Richard Nixon, if he were president, would have sent the Marines. The end result? The overthrow of Castro.
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Re: How come JFK didn't send U.S. troops to support the Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961?

Maybe something to do with the USSR.
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Because he was commie lover.

No - not really.

btw: I don't know if Nixon would have sent Marines.

Our problem, as I see/saw it, was that we gave tacit support to Castro during the revolution. But, when he came to power we screamed that he was a communist.

We've had a rather 'silly' - the only way to describe it - foreign policy toward Cuba, IMHO.
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OT: Cuban cigars, which are rumored to be the best in the world, were banned in the U.S. Still are, I'm sure. They were banned because of our policies against Cuba, specifically due to Castro being "in power." But Castro isn't the ruler any longer, so why are the cigars still banned?
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They're over-rated.
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...and I think much of the reason why Kennedy didn't involve U.S. troops was because, primarily, he was a "man of peace." But, he sure damaged a lot of lives by not backing them up. As a Kennedy fan, I'm not sure how I should feel about the Bay of Pigs.
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Um, because he didn't want to start a nuclear war.
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Um, because he didn't want to start a nuclear war.
That wasn't a concern in 1961; The Russians didn't installed nukes in Cuba until October, 1962.
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That wasn't a concern in 1961; The Russians didn't installed nukes in Cuba until October, 1962.
Um, the USSR still had them.
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Um, the USSR still had them.
But the USSR wasn't concerned with Cuban affairs during this time.
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Re: How come JFK didn't send U.S. troops to support the Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961?

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But the USSR wasn't concerned with Cuban affairs during this time.
Weird. Some of us need to get our facts straight.
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I don't know for sure, I'll admit, but I never heard that the reason JFK refused to send in troops was because he feared retaliation by Kruschev and the USSR.
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As a Kennedy fan


He's a sports team now?
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Re: How come JFK didn't send U.S. troops to support the Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961?

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I don't know for sure, I'll admit, but I never heard that the reason JFK refused to send in troops was because he feared retaliation by Kruschev and the USSR.
You're probably correct in that. I was probably wrong.

I think there was never any intention of full troop involvement... it was supposed to remain clandestine. So when things got out of control, Kennedy was not prepared to escalate it into a real war.

But I'm just guessing based on Wikipedia stuff that grundle has probably contaminated any way. And I'm a poor reader.
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...and I think much of the reason why Kennedy didn't involve U.S. troops was because, primarily, he was a "man of peace." But, he sure damaged a lot of lives by not backing them up. As a Kennedy fan, I'm not sure how I should feel about the Bay of Pigs.
The 'man of peace' sent troops to Vietnam.

JFK was more of a 'man of a piece' than he was a 'man of peace.'
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I think Pharoh has a different view as to whether the Russians actually had nuclear missiles in Cuba.

I could be mistaken.
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Re: How come JFK didn't send U.S. troops to support the Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961?

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The 'man of peace' sent troops to Vietnam.
Not true. During his Administration, he only had Advisors over there. No ground troops. The first ground troops arrived in Vietnam in 1965.
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Not true. During his Administration, he only had Advisors over there. No ground troops. The first ground troops arrived in Vietnam in 1965.
Ground troops - advisors weren't ground troops?

The adivsors (I was one) were combat infantry troops.

They went out in the field to 'train' the South Vietnamese. They got shot at - trust me.
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Re: How come JFK didn't send U.S. troops to support the Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961?

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Not true. During his Administration, he only had Advisors over there. No ground troops. The first ground troops arrived in Vietnam in 1965.
"Advisors" indicates a small cadre of officers who give advice on training and strategy while staying out of combat zones, except maybe for brief observation tours. By the time Kennedy died, that wasn't remotely true anymore. To say JFK didn't send combat forces to Vietnam is revisionism on a par with those who claim it wasn't actually a war because Congress didn't issue an official declaration.
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Also the number of American troops (advisors) in Vietnam was 'undereported.'
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Re: How come JFK didn't send U.S. troops to support the Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961?

Buttmunker, have you read Halberstam's The Best and the Brightest?
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Permit me to add - Col. Jack Jacobs, recipient of The Congressional Medal of Honor, 2 Silver Stars, 3 Bronze Stars, and 2 Purple Hearts - plus other medals - was an advisor in Vietnam.
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According to my dad his ship was en route to Bermuda for shore leave when the Bay of Pigs Invasion occurred. His ship promptly turned around and returned to home port.
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Re: How come JFK didn't send U.S. troops to support the Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961?

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Buttmunker, have you read Halberstam's The Best and the Brightest?
No, but I'll check it out.

I had recently finished reading A Rumor of War by Philip Caputo, a Lieutenant who says he was amongst the first to fight in Vietnam - that was, he said, in 1965, so that's where I got that from.
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No, but I'll check it out.

I had recently finished reading A Rumor of War by Philip Caputo, a Lieutenant who says he was amongst the first to fight in Vietnam - that was, he said, in 1965, so that's where I got that from.


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