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Old 06-01-10, 01:54 PM
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Illegal immigrant facing deportation after reporting crooked cop

I think it's good he reported a crooked cop. It's also interesting how the media is completely ignoring this story.

Crime-stopper faces deportation
Local police enforce immigration laws, leave many in limbo

By Alex Johnson and Glenn Counts
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updated 6:40 a.m. PT, Wed., May 26, 2010

CHARLOTTE, N.C. - Just like the police tell you to do, Abel Moreno called 911 when a man began assaulting his girlfriend. Before the end of the year, he could be deported to Mexico for his trouble.

Moreno, 29, of Charlotte made the call Dec. 29 because, he alleged, a Charlotte police officer was trying to fondle his girlfriend after a traffic stop. The officer ordered Moreno to drop the call and arrested him and his girlfriend for resisting arrest.

Several things then happened. Five other women came forward to allege that the officer, identified as Marcus Jackson, now 26, had tried to molest them, too. Moreno was released after investigators debunked the resisting arrest charge. So was his girlfriend.
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Jackson was fired and faces 11 counts of sexual battery, extortion and interfering with emergency communication. Police Chief Rodney Monroe admitted that Jackson should never have been hired in the first place because of previous charges related to a restraining order filed by an ex-girlfriend. The local 911 system is under review because Moreno’s call wasn’t acted upon.

And Abel Moreno now has a six-month deadline to show why he shouldn’t be deported, even though police acknowledge that his 911 call was crucial to their uncovering a dirty cop, and even though they agree that he shouldn’t have been arrested.

That’s because the Mecklenburg County Sheriff’s Office, which runs the county jail where Moreno was held, is one of 67 local law enforcement agencies in 24 states that have signed up under Section 287(g) of the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, which allows some local law enforcement agencies to enforce federal immigration laws during the course of their normal duties. While he was still in jail, Moreno was found to have been in the United States illegally for the past six years, working at a restaurant so he could send money back home to his mother and his five brothers and sisters in Acapulco.

A judge granted Moreno a six-month deferment on his deportation because he is a witness in the criminal investigation. But that reprieve runs out in November.

Moreno’s attorney, Rob Heroy, said he was confident Moreno would eventually be granted a so-called U visa, which allows illegal immigrants who are victims or witnesses in criminal investigations to stay in the country for up to four years. But only 10,000 such visas are available in any year, and while that process works its way through the system, Moreno remains in limbo.

“Now I’m unemployed,” Moreno said, speaking in Spanish through an interpreter. “I don’t have any money, not even for rent, not even for my phone — anything. ... The truth is I’m scared.”

Section meant to target threats to security

In many respects, Section 287(g), which has been around for 15 years, is similar to the law Arizona enacted last month obligating police to question people about their immigration status if there is “reasonable suspicion” that they are in the country illegally.

The federal law, however, has a crucial difference, according to U.S. Immigrations and Custom Enforcement. While the Arizona law targets anyone without acceptable registration documents, Section 287(g) is meant to identify “foreign-born criminals and immigration violators who pose a threat to national security or public safety,” the agency says.

Alex Johnson is a reporter for msnbc.com. Glenn Counts is a reporter for NBC station WCNC of Charlotte, N.C. NBC station WXIA of Atlanta contributed to this report.

Nationwide, about 120,000 people have been deported under the provision in the last three years, said John Morton, the deputy secretary of homeland security for immigration.

“The fact is, the 287(g) program works,” said Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, author of the original 287(g) legislation 14 years ago. “Thousands of illegal immigrants apprehended for other crimes are being identified and deported.”

But because it could lead to the deportation of someone like Abel Moreno, who came to the attention of police only because he did the right thing, the provision is intensely controversial among not only immigrants’ activists but also police agencies themselves.

The American Civil Liberties Union and immigrants’ rights groups have denounced Section 287(g) as an open invitation for local police to try to cleanse their communities of illegal immigrants under the pretext of enforcing minor infractions, like traffic violations. They claim that is what is happening to Abel Moreno, and they say it is also what is happening to Jessica Colotl.

Colotl, 21, a senior political science major at Kennesaw State University in Marietta, Ga., has lived in the United States since her family moved to Georgia from Mexico when she was 11. After she was stopped on campus in March for driving without a license, she was turned over to federal immigration authorities and held in a detention center in Alabama for 35 days because the Cobb County Sheriff’s Office, which participates in the 287(g) program, determined that she was in the country illegally.

After ICE released Colotl and deferred her case for a year so she could finish her studies, the Cobb County sheriff charged her with providing a false statement to law enforcement when she was arrested, which is a felony.

The “false statement” was giving an old address that matched the one on her car registration. Colotl’s attorneys said she provided it in addition to her current address. But Sheriff Neil Warren maintained that Colotl had behaved with “blatant disregard for Georgia law.”

“Often individuals have different perceptions or personal definitions of criminal activity,” Warren said. “I follow the Georgia Code and enforce those statutes.”

Charles Kuck, one of Colotl’s attorneys, said Warren’s pursuit of charges “has nothing to do with public safety or upholding the law,” a view echoed by the Georgia Latino Alliance for Human Rights, which accused him in a statement of having “embarked on a witch-hunt, wasting money and county resources for political gain.”

In an interview with msnbc television, Kuck asked, “Are we going to deport all ... 300,000 children like this who have been brought here as young kids, who are engaged in our education system, who are graduating, who are wanting to go to college?”

“We have a national crisis in immigration, and Jessica is a symbol of that,” he said.

John N. Shofi, the acting head of ICE’s state and local outreach programs, called the federal-local partnership “a force multiplier to help combat crime in local communities.” But many police agencies disagree and have declined to join the program.

“The reality is that undocumented immigrants are a significant part of the local populations that major police agencies must protect, serve and police,” Montgomery County, Md., Police Chief J. Thomas Manger said, testifying before Congress last year on behalf of the Major Cities Chiefs Association, which represents the 56 largest police departments in the United States.

Local police agencies “have worked very hard to build trust and a spirit of cooperation” with immigrant groups because their cooperation is vital “when an immigrant — whether documented or undocumented — is the victim of or witness to a crime,” Manger said.

But if an illegal immigrant can be turned over to immigration authorities for doing what most Americans would see as his or her civic duty — aiding the police in solving a crime — then “the hard-won trust, communication and cooperation from the immigrant community would disappear,” he said.

‘Class of silent victims’
That kind of divide between police and immigrant groups would lead to more crime, not less, Manger said, creating “a class of silent victims” not only in immigrant communities but in the broader community, as well.

The Department of Homeland Security, which oversees ICE, acknowledged those concerns in March, when its inspector general’s office released a report concluding that the program had not been “focused on aliens who pose the greatest risk to the public.”

Of particular concern, the report said, is the opportunity for “racial profiling and intimidation by law enforcement officials.” It disclosed that ICE had entered into 287(g) agreements with an unspecified number of local agencies “that have checkered civil rights records,” at least two of which were defendants in past racial profiling lawsuits. Two others, which were not identified, are defending against lawsuits brought against them for actions while working under 287(g) jurisdiction.


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Most striking is the inspector general’s disclosure that ICE had approved 16 local agencies for participation in the 287(g) program “despite objections from the [ICE] field units responsible for providing direct program supervision.”

The report called on ICE to enact 33 reforms to “ensure that its 287(g) efforts achieve a balance among immigration enforcement, local public safety priorities, and civil liberties.” To date, ICE has accepted 32 of the recommendations — it balked at collecting “objective data” on 287(g) activities “and their effect on civil liberties.”

Fostering fear of the police
Rob Heroy, the attorney for Abel Moreno, specializes in immigration law. He does not endorse calls by immigration activists to repeal 287(g) entirely, saying it “does go a long way toward identifying dangerous repeat offenders and people who have been deported before.”

But he said the law can be and has been abused “when it’s used to pick up people for minor things.” That was what made Moreno’s 911 call such an act of courage, he said.

Generally, “Hispanics who are present in the United States are afraid to call the police in the event of a crime for fear of ending up in an immigration proceeding,” Heroy said. And if a criminal case proceeds to trial, “witnesses have a fear [that] they would show up in court and someone from immigration would be there with handcuffs for them.”

“It does create a chilling effect,” he said.
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Re: Illegal immigrant facing deportation after reporting crooked cop

Police Chief Rodney Monroe admitted that Jackson should never have been hired in the first place because of previous charges related to a restraining order filed by an ex-girlfriend.
Well, that's nice.
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Re: Illegal immigrant facing deportation after reporting crooked cop

I don't see the big deal. They even say he'll likely get a visa at the end of it.
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This seems like an isolated case... the provision only applied because the "bad cop" booked them on resisting arrest charges, which prompted the immigration check, but I don't see any evidence in this article that the police are going after witnesses for immigration violations.

That being said, if the guy had thousands of dollars of unpaid parking tickets, or was driving without a license, and then did this, would we expect them to forgive or ignore his previous transgressions because he did the right thing here? I agree that it was probably a bad decision to pursue this particular case, which seems to violate the spirit of the provision.
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That’s because the Mecklenburg County Sheriff’s Office, which runs the county jail where Moreno was held, is one of 67 local law enforcement agencies in 24 states that have signed up under Section 287(g) of the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, which allows some local law enforcement agencies to enforce federal immigration laws during the course of their normal duties.
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In many respects, Section 287(g), which has been around for 15 years, is similar to the law Arizona enacted last month obligating police to question people about their immigration status if there is “reasonable suspicion” that they are in the country illegally.

The federal law, however, has a crucial difference, according to U.S. Immigrations and Custom Enforcement. While the Arizona law targets anyone without acceptable registration documents, Section 287(g) is meant to identify “foreign-born criminals and immigration violators who pose a threat to national security or public safety,” the agency says.
So 24 states and 67 localities have the right to enforce Federal immigration law similar to Arizona? Does The Obama think that is a good or bad idea? (he seems to think Arizona is a bad idea) Maybe the intent is only known criminals, but does the law say "known criminals" or "normal duties"?


How many of these 24 states and 67 localities are being boycotted like Arizona? How many are boycotting Arizona?
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Re: Illegal immigrant facing deportation after reporting crooked cop

Didn't notice the poll before. Nice. Where's my "amnesty or mass deportation" two choice poll?

On a side note, people are complaining in the immigration thread about possible racial profiling, but in this case it's pretty cut and dry that the people mentioned in the article are here illegally. It'll be interesting to see if the people who use "racial profiling" as an excuse to boycott Arizona are also up in arms about deporting people who are actually here illegally. It does seem like a lot of people just don't want to enforce immigration laws at all, but won't come out and say it.
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Re: Illegal immigrant facing deportation after reporting crooked cop

The poll choices are:

He's a hero

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He shouldn't have been here in the first place so the cop should go free
How about a third choice: He shouldn't have been here in the first place, but the cop should still be fired. (And face criminal prosecution.)

Just like all illegal immigrants are not hardened criminals who murder, rob, and rape not all law enforcement officers are racist sadists who only want to arrest illegal immigrants.

(And to head off the argument, "If the large majority of illegal immigrants who are here aren't hardened criminals and only want to advance themselves through hard work, so what's the harm?"--See the other illegal immigration thread on this forum.)

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^ Yes. Poll is stupid (sorry, Superboy, maybe you were going for humor).

I break into your house to rob it and find a woman chained up in the basement. I call the cops and report it. Just because I wasn't authorized to be in your house doesn't mean I can't be a legal witness to a crime. But I can also be arrested for breaking into your house. The judge, however, would probably show leniency considering I put another's well-being ahead of my own. So unless there were a warrant out for my arrest on something violent or otherwise major, I wouldn't necessarily expect to be going to jail, but I'm sure I'd get at least some kind of probation and maybe community service.

Seems pretty similar to this case.

I vote for:
He shouldn't have been here in the first place, and he should be deported, but without the penalty afforded other illegals who are deported: unable to reenter legally without special permission.(*) In addition, the cop should be fired and go to jail.


(*) Basically, just don't give him the strike against him of having been deported, as once that happens, if he reenters the country illegally again, he could be looking at jail-time and fines.
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I vote for:
He shouldn't have been here in the first place, and he should be deported, but without the penalty afforded other illegals who are deported: unable to reenter legally without special permission.(*) In addition, the cop should be fired and go to jail.


(*) Basically, just don't give him the strike against him of having been deported, as once that happens, if he reenters the country illegally again, he could be looking at jail-time and fines.
That's borderline amnesty though. Why not give that kind of option to other illegal immigrants who are otherwise law abiding citizens who contribute to our society.
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Re: Illegal immigrant facing deportation after reporting crooked cop

The poll choices are:



How about a third choice: He shouldn't have been here in the first place, but the cop should still be fired. (And face criminal prosecution.)



This!

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Re: Illegal immigrant facing deportation after reporting crooked cop

Is this in any way offset by an illegal immigrant that faces non-deportation in prison for murdering people? Our prisons are kind of full. But I still think murdering is bad.
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That's borderline amnesty though. Why not give that kind of option to other illegal immigrants who are otherwise law abiding citizens who contribute to our society.
I missed the part where "he should be deported" became "borderline amnesty." And then that is justification for going to an even further extreme? Sorry, that doesn't fly. The first step was wrong, so your giant leap is giant wrong.

What I said was, just as in the case of any other nonviolent crime where the criminal (and yes, he IS a criminal) has shown himself to have some redeeming qualities, there is potential for some lenience by a judge. In this case, I still say he SHOULD BE DEPORTED. Twist the words however you want, I don't think you can quite say that I am suggesting "borderline amnesty." What I said was that he essentially just gets a do-over. If he comes into the country again illegally, he will be treated just like anyone else who comes into the country illegally. If he wants to come back legally and is able to, my hat's off to him, just like any potential legal immigrant.
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That's borderline amnesty though. Why not give that kind of option to other illegal immigrants who are otherwise law abiding citizens who contribute to our society.
Who determines what constitutes "otherwise law abiding" and how significant their contribution to our society needs to be? I understand that you want to take away the whole "entering the country illegally" part, but what about identity theft, or running a red light, can we deport then? If they are a net financial drain on society, can we deport?
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I'm NOT for amnesty. I'm saying that if you're going to grant someone amnesty, what grounds can you base it on?

And for most illegal immigrants, they are a net financial gain for society. They pay into social services from which they'll never receive any benefit. The true cost of their children attending school and receiving medical services is grossly inflated.
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And for most illegal immigrants, they are a net financial gain for society. They pay into social services from which they'll never receive any benefit.
Is that really true?
If they're paying into social services through taxes on their paycheck, then they must be using a fake or stolen SSN.
Would they be able to use those illegal SSN's to collect welfare, or unemployment?

I find it hard to believe that these poor people that just come to work menial jobs to live a better life, pay out of pocket when it's time to deliver a baby. In fact, I know that the tax payers pick up the tab.

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He's a hero who should be deported.
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nevermind.

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Is that really true?
If they're paying into social services through taxes on their paycheck, then they must be using a fake or stolen SSN.
Would they be able to use those illegal SSN's to collect welfare, or unemployment?
No, but there are many who use expired alien registration cards or other documents (many illegals actually do have a valid social security number). And since the patriot act was passed, there's actually quite a bit of invasive procedures done to protect against this kind of fraud.

But it's still fraud. I mean there are American citizens who exploit the unemployment insurance system. It's not a problem that's solely isolated to illegal immigrants.

I find it hard to believe that these poor people that just come to work menial jobs to live a better life, pay out of pocket when it's time to deliver a baby. In fact, I know that the tax payers pick up the tab.
I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, i'm saying the costs are grossly overstated. What it actually costs these organizations to perform these services (schools, hospitals) is menial compared to the costs charged that out-of-pocket uninsured patients and insurance companies have to pay. These studies are rife with obvious errors when they make cost calculations. They assume average total cost and marginal cost are the same thing. But that's the problem with conservatives nowadays. They really don't understand economics.

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And liberals do? Come on now, your blanket statements are showing. I'll do you one better and say that's the problem with politicians in general: They don't understand economics.
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And liberals do? Come on now, your blanket statements are showing. I'll do you one better and say that's the problem with politicians in general: They don't understand economics.
Yes they do, they have an overall better track record.

Understanding something as simple as why people with larger incomes are taxed at greater percentages, and why this is actually fair, and why it is actually economically justified.

Or why economic stimulus is necessary in a recession, and why it works, and how it works.

Or why relentlessly cutting taxes doesn't necessarily grow the economy or our GDP, it merely contributes to the creation of speculative bubbles.

Or why, if the financial catastrophe and the BP oil spill haven't made clear already, regulations are necessary.
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I'm NOT for amnesty. I'm saying that if you're going to grant someone amnesty, what grounds can you base it on?

And for most illegal immigrants, they are a net financial gain for society. They pay into social services from which they'll never receive any benefit. The true cost of their children attending school and receiving medical services is grossly inflated.
And where's the study that supports this blanket statement? I've also heard that they are mainly hard working, nose-to-the-grindstone people that are good people, but again, where are the statistics? They are neither all violent criminals, nor are they all hardworking contributors to society, just like any other ethnic group, so I'm not sure why everyone wants to give them a pass over anyone else.

That aside, I'm not sure how you can tell me that importing a lot of poorer people largely working menial jobs, who have in general larger families to support and also send a lot of money out of the country can be a net gain on our society? And do you also take into account the so-called anchor babies and the cost it takes to support them, or do you take that out because they are citizens? I think it should be included because if we cracked down on illegal immigration, we'd crack down on anchor babies and the federal support they receive.

Look at the cost per student of LAUSD, then look at the boycott article I posted in the other thread about how almost 25% of the students are ESL students. Not all of them are children of illegal aliens, I grant you, but that's a huge percentage.

edited to add: also, if you grant amnesty, won't they get social services (including social security) anyway? And national healthcare?

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And where's the study that supports this blanket statement? I've also heard that they are mainly hard working, nose-to-the-grindstone people that are good people, but again, where are the statistics?
Unsurprisingly, there's not a lot of reliable data available on the behavior of illegal immigrants, especially the (otherwise) law-abiding ones. For this reason, blanket statements in support or opposition of their presence in this country should be viewed with great skepticism.
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my answer to the question - neither
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So if I report someone doing something wrong, can I get a free pass on something else that I've done wrong?
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