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Old 03-26-10, 02:12 PM
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But I assume the same kind of things were happening 20 years ago when I was in college (renovations, new buildings built, etc), yet I seriously doubt that costs over that preceeding 20 year period rose nearly as sharply as they have these last 20 years.

Like I said - I fully expect costs to rise for the things you mention, but not so sharply.
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Old 03-26-10, 02:27 PM
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when i graduated HS almost 20 years ago i heard the same things about how tuition was going up so fast and how you would end up in major debt after graduation. and the numbers of young people are growing again so the college age population will continue to increase
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Old 03-26-10, 02:36 PM
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at my old college, if you started in Summer 2007, tutition was $1,946, if you started fall 2009, tutition was $3,035 per semester. So in two years and a couple of months, tuition went up 56%
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Old 03-26-10, 02:39 PM
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Looks like there is talk of a 35% increase on top of that for next year because of state budget cuts
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Looks like there is talk of a 35% increase on top of that for next year because of state budget cuts
And some people say that pre-paid tutition is a bad investment.
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Old 03-26-10, 02:47 PM
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Georgia got rid of their guaranteed tuition for four years
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Old 03-26-10, 02:49 PM
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And some people say that pre-paid tutition is a bad investment.
Now that may be an explanation (at least partly) of why tuition is rising sharply. The schools, particularly state schools, need to make up for that.
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Old 03-26-10, 03:05 PM
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Now that may be an explanation (at least partly) of why tuition is rising sharply. The schools, particularly state schools, need to make up for that.
It could be a contributing factor. I think there are probably a lot of reasons for the double digit inflation. The basic fact that many schools get far more applicants than they have spots (no need to lower cost if you have excess demand), often times grants have a lot of strings attached so they can only be spent on certain projects or buildings but not on more faculty to fill the buildings, budgets are often done with no incentive to save money (use all your budget, or it gets cut next year) and faculty/administration salaries keeping up with other "high end" jobs that have also had higher rates of inflation.
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Old 03-26-10, 06:35 PM
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But I assume the same kind of things were happening 20 years ago when I was in college (renovations, new buildings built, etc), yet I seriously doubt that costs over that preceeding 20 year period rose nearly as sharply as they have these last 20 years.

Like I said - I fully expect costs to rise for the things you mention, but not so sharply.
I think a lot of it has to do with the shift in demand from a traditional Liberal Arts focus to more specialized Business, IT, Science, and Engineering tracks.

One of my professors told me that the cost for the program to hire a new professor with a Phd from a top Business School was $120K to $200K depending on their specialty. This is someone straight out of school, not an established professor. To hire the equivalent History or English Phd would be around $60K to $70K.

Since the Business School was the fastest growing program in the University, they not only had to add more staff, they had to add more expensive staff, and the cost is obviously spread among all of the students through higher tuition.

I'd imagine it's the same scenario among the other disciplines where a Phd can make a lot more money in the private sector than they can as a professor, and these seem to be the specialties that are growing most rapidly.
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Old 03-26-10, 06:42 PM
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I think a lot of it has to do with the shift in demand from a traditional Liberal Arts focus to more specialized Business, IT, Science, and Engineering tracks.

One of my professors told me that the cost for the program to hire a new professor with a Phd from a top Business School was $120K to $200K depending on their specialty. This is someone straight out of school, not an established professor. To hire the equivalent History or English Phd would be around $60K to $70K.

Assuming the numbers support that, then I agree that could be part of the reason as well.
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We're not exactly graduating more engineers though, are we?

Furthermore, the engineering graduates aren't having a difficult time repaying their loans.
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someone i know has a child in a phd program at NYU. he gets paid money, gets a free place to live and an education to work on his phd. i bet the undergraduate and graduate tuition programs pay for that
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We're not exactly graduating more engineers though, are we?

Furthermore, the engineering graduates aren't having a difficult time repaying their loans.
US still leads the world in engineering and manufacturing
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Old 03-26-10, 11:51 PM
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someone i know has a child in a phd program at NYU. he gets paid money, gets a free place to live and an education to work on his phd. i bet the undergraduate and graduate tuition programs pay for that
Undergraduate tuition covers the important stuff...in grad school.
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