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Old 02-23-10, 01:45 PM
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The Recession rolls on - part XI

Previous thread (Part 10): HERE

The Recession that keeps on giving. 11 threads anyway. Continue.
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Re: The Recession rolls on - part XI

I've noticed Obama's hair getting grayer, but no sign of receding just yet.
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Re: The Recession rolls on - part XI

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I've noticed Obama's hair getting grayer, but no sign of receding just yet.
He looks noticeably older just one year in. Bush looked a lot older after a couple of years too, but it seems to be hitting Obama harder.
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He looks noticeably older just one year in. Bush looked a lot older after a couple of years too, but it seems to be hitting Obama harder.
The commercial with him and Clinton doing the Haiti thing is wild. They both look 75.
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He looks noticeably older just one year in. Bush looked a lot older after a couple of years too, but it seems to be hitting Obama harder.
Could it be that Obama doesn't have the constitution that Bush has?
Or maybe Bush has led a more pristine life?
Who knows?

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Re: The Recession rolls on - part XI

The healing powers of Crawford Ranch.
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Re: The Recession rolls on - part XI

btw: I don't see that George W. aged that much.

I can understand why Clinton aged - and it wasn't just the office.
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Re: The Recession rolls on - part XI

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Could it be that Obama doesn't have the constitution that Bush has?
That's because Bush tore up the Constitution, and Obama flushed it down the toilet.

(You line 'em up, I knock 'em down.)
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That's because Bush tore up the Constitution, and Obama flushed it down the toilet.

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btw: I don't see that George W. aged that much.




Really?
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http://house.mo.gov/content.aspx?inf...lls/HB2131.htm

HB 2131 Requires a $2 deduction each pay period from the Governor's personal pay to be deposited into the Governor Nixon's Federal Scratch-Off, Match-Off Fund to purchase a Powerball lottery ticket each week
Evidently Missouri's idea to fix their budget problems is to play Powerball.
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Re: The Recession rolls on - part XI

Jeremy517 had to go and ruin a good thing.

Seriously, for such a young President, Obama's transformation in such a short time is fascinating. I think it is highly reflective of the stress that accompanies the job.

And, the economy is pretty good right now. It looks like I'm qualifying for some nice tax credits.

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Re: The Recession rolls on - part XI

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Very few people realize that.

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You'd think everyone would laugh that off and see it for what it was... but no! Americans in all their weak-minded glory gobbled that propaganda up hook, line, and sinker and now Walmart is the largest employer in the country.
Yeah, as if it was the unions that literally turned GM into the sinkhole that it is today.

News networks were so quick to compare the pay of the average UAW worker to the average Toyota worker.

Ignoring that the Japanese worker actually has many more benefits in their name, and much better job security. Their "life employment" built a solid middle class that still kept unemployment around 2% for decades. It didn't dissuade people from working harder, or adapting to change. The exact opposite was true. The Japanese adopted TQM overnight, the concept that was literally laughed out of the US.

What the news networks never showed was the comparison of the average Toyota CEO pay vs. American corporations. That would have gotten a good laugh from many people, seeing literally a 300:1 ratio.
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Really?
Yeah, it's amazing. I remember stories about him riding his mountain bike like a madman with a reporter down at the Crawford Ranch. Now he looks like he'd be using a walker.
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Re: The Recession rolls on - part XI

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News networks were so quick to compare the pay of the average UAW worker to the average Toyota worker.
The figures that they used for those comparisons were a complete lie too.

But they were handed propaganda to feed to the masses, and they did their job, they read the propaganda. With really pretty women doing it no less. Damned appealing.
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Re: The Recession rolls on - part XI

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The figures that they used for those comparisons were a complete lie too.

But they were handed propaganda to feed to the masses, and they did their job, they read the propaganda. With really pretty women doing it no less. Damned appealing.
Yeah, I know. They were basically using the highest union pay bracket (not the average union pay, and certainly not discounted for the loss of their pensions) compared to the average Toyota worker. I saw the same crap during the supermarket strikes of the past few years.
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Re: The Recession rolls on - part XI

You know in management science classes I took in college, I did tons of case studies on the failures of GM, Ford, and Chrysler. I'm sure you know how incredibly incompetent the CEOs were. From the car that exploded if it was rear-ended, to cost-savings measures that drove costs through the roof, to their attempted over saturation of the car market that totally backfired when their sales divisions ended up directly competing with each other until they were literally at each other's throats, to the cars with paint that was literally boiling on the sheetmetal... it's almost an exercise in stupidity.
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Re: The Recession rolls on - part XI

Wall Steeters got $20B in bonuses in 2009

Un-freakin'-believable. Something is seriously wrong with our capitalistic model. Unemployment shoots thru the roof, yet these morons get huge bonuses. Amazing.
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Wall Steeters got $20B in bonuses in 2009

Un-freakin'-believable. Something is seriously wrong with our capitalistic model. Unemployment shoots thru the roof, yet these morons get huge bonuses. Amazing.
Would they have gotten those bonuses if the feds hadn't bailed them out? I wouldn't be so quick to blame it on capitalism.
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Re: The Recession rolls on - part XI

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Wall Steeters got $20B in bonuses in 2009

Un-freakin'-believable. Something is seriously wrong with our capitalistic model. Unemployment shoots thru the roof, yet these morons get huge bonuses. Amazing.
Hey! There should be a guy who makes sure this stuff doesn't happen! Like a pay czar or something.
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I'm not sure bonuses are necessarily tied to employment levels.
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Yeah, I know. They were basically using the highest union pay bracket (not the average union pay, and certainly not discounted for the loss of their pensions) compared to the average Toyota worker. I saw the same crap during the supermarket strikes of the past few years.
The only reason why "hourly" wages for "foreign" auto workers in America are close to those of US auto workers is because of profit sharing.
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What was this, his governor photo? Who knows when that was taken.

"The presidency ages you" is one of those stupid things that people like to say like "deaths come in threes" -- they don't have any basis in reality but you can convince yourself they're true if you really want to. For example, by comparing photos where these guys are wearing makeup, have their hair dyed, etc. to photos of them in bad lighting at some disaster area. OMG, the curse of the presidency has struck again!

Ten years is a long stretch of time. People's appearances change in a decade. Everyone gets old, regardless of their occupation.

Here's what Bush actually looked like in 2000:



The other guy looks a lot older these days too. Hey, maybe it's just getting elected that ages you.
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Would they have gotten those bonuses if the feds hadn't bailed them out? I wouldn't be so quick to blame it on capitalism.
Of course they would, as they should.
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What was this, his governor photo? Who knows when that was taken.

"The presidency ages you" is one of those stupid things that people like to say like "deaths come in threes" -- they don't have any basis in reality but you can convince yourself they're true if you really want to. For example, by comparing photos where these guys are wearing makeup, have their hair dyed, etc. to photos of them in bad lighting at some disaster area. OMG, the curse of the presidency has struck again!

Ten years is a long stretch of time. People's appearances change in a decade. Everyone gets old, regardless of their occupation.

Here's what Bush actually looked like in 2000:



The other guy looks a lot older these days too. Hey, maybe it's just getting elected that ages you.

Maybe, but does getting picked as VP really count as being elected?



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