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Old 10-26-09, 11:58 AM
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Obama ties Bush on Golf!

http://www.politico.com/click/storie...h_on_golf.html

President Barack Obama has only been in office for just over nine months, but he's already hit the links as much as President Bush did in over two years.

CBS' Mark Knoller — an unofficial documentarian and statistician of all things White House-related — wrote on his Twitter feed that, "Today - Obama ties Pres. Bush in the number of rounds of golf played in office: 24.

Took Bush 2 yrs & 10 months."

This news comes on the heels of today's news that Obama played golf with a woman — chief domestic policy adviser Melody Barnes — for the first time since taking office.
Remember all the news about how much vacation time Bush took? Wonder if we will ever get a story about how much time off the Obama takes.

Yes, slow news day. But it is weird to see the picture of him on the course. I was under the impression that the king's new clothes were invisible.
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Misleading thread title. I thought this was going to be about what each of them shot.

I have no problem with the President taking four hours out of his schedule to shoot a round of golf. Nor do I have a problem with the President taking a month in Martha's Vinyard, as long as he stays in contact with the appropriate people and is working while on the Vinyard.

I do have a problem with the President taking a month in Crawford because that allows me to hate Bush without being hypocritical.

Just kidding. Camp David, Martha's Vinyard, Crawford -- it's all the same. Is the President working? Is he in contact with the people who he needs to be in contact with? If so, then it doesn't seem to be a problem to me.
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Agreed.
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For someone fighting of equality for all why does he play golf? Doesn't he know what it stands for?!!
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He should try to play here. Maybe the only whites-only golf course still around?
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from Bill Maher's show a couple weeks ago:

New Rule: President Obama must give up that awful habit that sets such a bad example for young people. I'm talking, of course ... about golf.

Golf, if you're not familiar, is a pastime where you basically walk outdoors with a bag, muttering and cursing. It's like being homeless in loud pants. Anyway, Time magazine is reporting that since he became president, Barack Obama has taken up golf with a passion, playing almost every weekend for the past few months -- and I feel betrayed. He campaigned as a basketball player. It said to us, "I'm urban and athletic and hip and a team player." Golf says, "I like Lipitor and white collar crime." And it's not just golf -- he's been purposefully eating a lot of hamburgers in public lately, to prove he loves meat. And he said that, unlike before he became president, he prays all the time now and that his Faith and Neighbor Initiatives Director sends him scripture on his Blackberry to start every day. Jesus, is there something about that house that turns people into assholes?

I kid the Commander in Chief, he's very far from an asshole, he's a cool dude, and I want to keep him that way! I don't want a regular guy running the country. We tried that for eight years and New Orleans still smells like mildew. Obama was different. He wasn't Joe Six-Pack. He had a six-pack. And when he gave a speech it didn't make English teachers cry. He wasn't some regular schmuck who spent five hours a weekend on the golf course. Why? Because he actually likes his family!

But Democrats have this bad habit of letting the Republicans scare them into acting more "regular guy" than they really are, and then they look inauthentic. Like Hillary drinking shooters. Like Dukakis in the tank. So I'm putting you on notice, Barack Obama: you're from Chicago, the day I see you in a duck blind, I'm taking my hope elsewhere.

So that's why I'm so worried when I see my president playing golf, because golf is a slippery slope. First comes the golf attire, then the golf stories and pretty soon you're telling black jokes. What's worse is that you know Obama doesn't really wanna be golfing, he's just doing it because he thinks it will relax the white people. "How could I be a socialist, I'm putting!" Well, I've got news for you, Mr. President, the people who think you want to kill their Great Aunt Millie aren't going to be swayed by a photo-op on the golf course. They see those photos, they're not thinking you're just like Tiger Woods, they're thinking, "Here comes the Angel of Death, and he's got a nine iron."

There is also a more serious side to this, because golf, hamburgers, and religion are all things that are incredibly bad for the environment. According to the U.N., in 15 years almost two billion people will be living in conditions of absolute water scarcity. And yet, a golf course in Palm Springs consumes as much water per day as an American family uses in four years. Golf courses in America consume over 114 million gallons of water a year on grass that doesn't even get you high. Golf courses also need large quantities of fertilizers and pesticides whose run-off pollutes the ground water for miles around.

This isn't just a third world problem -- there's a water shortage right now in the western United States. If I surpass my monthly water allotment here in Los Angeles, I'll get fined by the city. If I do it twice, they'll send 40,000 prisoners to live in my backyard.

But when it comes to bad for the environment, nothing -- literally -- compares with eating meat. The business of raising animals for food causes about 40 percent more global warming than all cars, trucks, and planes combined. If you care about the planet, it's actually better to eat a salad in a Hummer than a cheeseburger in a Prius.

There was a news story last week about the U.S. military warning America that the ripple effects from global warming inspired disasters could kill millions of people, but none of them can moonwalk, so nobody gave a shit. But if this "planet" problem is so dire the military is saying they're going to have to start dealing with it, maybe the president should set a better example about how we just can't live exactly as we always have and survive. I'm certainly not suggesting that we "take away" your golf or your hamburgers, but when it comes to being a role model on the environment, this president is out to lunch. With Joe Biden, eating greaseburgers.

Which is a shame, because he and his wife have demonstrated enormous power to lead by example. What they do, Americans want to do, because they're stars, and we're star-fuckers! And, like I said last week, we're not very bright, so we need direction -- if Obama grabbed Biden for lunch next week and ordered a veggie burger -- yes, Sean Hannity will call him a mincing fairy, like he did when Obama used mustard instead of ketchup -- like I ever knew one was more manly than the other. Stop caring what Sean Hannity and Sarah Palin will say about you. Be who you really are - a basketball playing, Jay-Z listening, city-dwelling hipster. The only sand trap I want to see you get out of is Afghanistan. And next time you have to get two guys over for a beer, smoke a little weed.


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I have no problem with the President taking four hours out of his schedule to shoot a round of golf. Nor do I have a problem with the President taking a month in Martha's Vinyard, as long as he stays in contact with the appropriate people and is working while on the Vinyard.
Clever.

You know Obama didn't take a month-long vacation, like GW Bush did, so you don't claim that, but you make it sound like he did.

Clever like a FOX.
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Clever.

You know Obama didn't take a month-long vacation, like GW Bush did, so you don't claim that, but you make it sound like he did.

Clever like a FOX.
Am I being accused of shading the truth to make President Obama look bad? That's a first for me.

I don't remember how long President Obama's vacation on Martha's Vinyard was. I thought he was there for about four weeks in August and early September, but I would not be at all surprised if I'm wrong about that.
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Journalists sure do seem to be shitty writers these days. The article implies Bush played 24 rounds in his first 2 years 10 months and then didn't play at all for the last 5 years 2 months. If that's true, you'd think it'd mention why. If not, it needs to be reworded.
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I might be misremembering but I believe he did give up golf after much criticism about him playing while people were dying in Iraq/Afghanistan...

Yep here's an article about it http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051302783.html
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Am I being accused of shading the truth to make President Obama look bad? That's a first for me.
Enough with the games and your right-wing agenda, JasonF. Or should we say GlennB?
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Originally Posted by nemein View Post
I might be misremembering but I believe he did give up golf after much criticism about him playing while people were dying in Iraq/Afghanistan...

Yep here's an article about it http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051302783.html
Obama doesn't care about soldier people
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Originally Posted by nemein View Post
I might be misremembering but I believe he did give up golf after much criticism about him playing while people were dying in Iraq/Afghanistan...

Yep here's an article about it http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051302783.html

here's the article

Bush Says He's Not A Golfer In Wartime

By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 14, 2008

President Bush said yesterday that he gave up golfing in 2003 "in solidarity" with the families of soldiers who were dying in Iraq, concluding that it was "just not worth it anymore" to play the sport in a time of war.

"I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf," Bush said in a White House interview with the Politico. "I feel I owe it to the families to be as -- to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."

Bush said he decided to stop playing golf on Aug. 19, 2003, when a truck bomb in Baghdad killed U.N. special representative Sergio Vieira de Mello and more than a dozen others.

He said he received word of the attack while playing golf during a stay at the family ranch near Crawford, Tex. Press reports at the time indicate he took the call from Condoleezza Rice, then his national security adviser.

"They pulled me off the golf course, and I said it's just not worth it anymore to do," Bush said in yesterday's interview.

Democrats have criticized Bush for allegedly not requiring Americans to sacrifice enough while waging wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and for urging people to keep shopping as a way to fight terrorism after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Bush was also widely criticized in August 2002 when he decried terrorist bombings in Israel while golfing and then told reporters: "Now watch this drive."

Although Bush says he has given up golf, he is a mountain-biking enthusiast who has been photographed taking part in rides. He took up biking after an injury sidelined him from running.

Nearly every president of the past century, including Bush and his father, has been a regular golfer. Presidential historian Robert Dallek noted that Dwight D. Eisenhower's golf habit was so advanced that Democrats accused him of neglecting his duties.

But Dallek, who is critical of the current president's legacy, said Bush's remarks about Iraq "speak to his shallowness." Dallek added: "That's his idea of sacrifice, to give up golf?"
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I dont understand any of this.

With modern communications Obama (or Bush) could be floating on a raft in the South Pacific and still get the job done.

I just dont like when they spend a fortune jetting around.
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Looking back over some of the old Bush vacation threads, it's actually pretty impressive how nearly all pro-Bush posters and the vast majority of anti-Bush posters recognized (rightfully, IMO) that this sort of complaint is petty and stupid. You had a few of the crackpots on the left (banned members mostly, like Cinten) who railed against the vacation time, but almost everybody seemed to recognize that "vacation time" for a President isn't really vacation in the sense we recognize it.

So he plays golf. Whoopidy doo.
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The Obama has played 24 rounds of golf in a nine month span? Oh the humanity! Clearly the repubs were right, let us impeach that lazy sumbitch!
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I hope he takes up golf full time.
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Clever.

You know Obama didn't take a month-long vacation, like GW Bush did, so you don't claim that, but you make it sound like he did.

Clever like a FOX.
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JasonF is actually Glenn Beck
I'm pretty sure that is a personal attack of the worst kind
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Beck doesn't even post here, so I doubt he'll complain.
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Beck doesn't even post here, so I doubt he'll complain.
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Am I being accused of shading the truth to make President Obama look bad? That's a first for me.

I don't remember how long President Obama's vacation on Martha's Vinyard was. I thought he was there for about four weeks in August and early September, but I would not be at all surprised if I'm wrong about that.
The Obamas had one week vacation on Martha's Vineyard at the end of August.
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...Now watch this drive!
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On a related note

Obama gets grief for male-only basketball games
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Now the kerfuffle is over a game the president hosted at the White House last week. Although he reached out to Members of Congress and his Cabinet to play, all of the invitees had one thing in common — they were guys.

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NBC White House correspondent Savannah Guthrie asked him that earlier this week. She asked him if his preference for all-male hoops sends the wrong signal. Or as she put it, “Some people might look at it and say, ‘Gosh, there’s the old boys club again.’”

That’s something the president dismisses.

“I gotta say, I think this is bunk,” Obama told Guthrie. “Basically, the House of Representatives has a basketball game and they had wanted to play here at the White House court and we invited them.”

“I don’t know if there are women who— were Members of Congress who play basketball on a regular basis,” Obama continued. “I don’t think there are. You know, I don’t think sends any kind of message or signal whatsoever.”
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^That makes me like Obama more, actually.
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