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Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

Old 10-17-09, 10:27 PM
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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

In my defense, I, and 45% of the country weren't until the election. And actually, we weren't after that until The Obama didn't get his quick easy deal on Health Care. Which apparently was so bad that it couldn't pass....but needed to in days....and if it had, would be something no one wanted or they would have passed it....but we should trust that they have done it right this time.

Before all that, I was wasn't.
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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

Originally Posted by Duran View Post
Let's not make him seem like he used to be some sort of paragon of rational debate. He coined "feminazi" for pro-choice organizations in the early 90s.
You must not have read what I wrote. I never claimed that he was William Buckley. If you can't see the difference between the earlier Limbaugh and the current one then... oh well.
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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

THe only difference I perceive is that he spends most of his time on his show talking about how liberals are out to get him.
Old 10-18-09, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Duran View Post
THe only difference I perceive is that he spends most of his time on his show talking about how liberals are out to get him.
Where on earth would he get such a silly idea!
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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

Originally Posted by Nugent View Post
Where on earth would he get such a silly idea!
It's not like the republicans would ever go after a liberal trying to buy a sports franchise.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...701447_pf.html
Old 10-18-09, 05:56 PM
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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

From the article:

"Why should politics have anything to do with who owns the team," Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.)
Somehow I don't think that's the point you were trying to make.
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Originally Posted by crazyronin View Post
From the article:

"Why should politics have anything to do with who owns the team," Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.)

Somehow I don't think that's the point you were trying to make.
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Originally Posted by crazyronin View Post
Somehow I don't think that's the point you were trying to make.
No, his point still stands. I will say that those Republicans, at least, didn't fabricate quotations and paint Soros as a racist.
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Originally Posted by Hank Ringworm View Post
Most people who are adamant in "not-listening" to Limbaugh have never actually listened to him.
Please provide proof of this fact. Or otherwise, let's just disregard it as non-factual.
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Originally Posted by Jason View Post
It's not like the republicans would ever go after a liberal trying to buy a sports franchise.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...701447_pf.html
They went after Jay-Z and Fergie?
Old 10-19-09, 04:27 PM
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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

Originally Posted by movielib View Post
Yes, a nice thing about (true) capitalism is that private organizations or groups of people are free to form associations in any noncoercive manner they want.
socialism for rich people is still socialism nonetheless.
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socialism for rich people is still socialism nonetheless.
You are just making it obvious that you have little grasp on what socialism is. Stop now, for your own sake.
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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

The decision to boot Rush from the team of buyers was made by Republicans, not left-wing loonies.

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Head Strong: Passing on Limbaugh a business decision
The NFL's rejection of the controversial talk show host was based on what owners thought was best for their enterprise.

By Michael Smerconish - Inquirer

Inquirer Currents Columnist

The NFL's rejecting Rush Limbaugh was a bit like the members of the Merion Cricket Club blackballing Thurston Howell III. The owners' objection to Limbaugh wasn't based on his politics - they overwhelmingly share his views. They refused to allow him to join their club in the name of good business.
Consider that over the last 20 years, 78 percent of the approximately $7 million that NFL owners, coaches, players, and their associates have donated to political candidates and committees has gone to Republicans. That's according to figures recently compiled and studied by the Center for Responsive Politics (CRP) in Washington.

The San Diego Chargers ($2,455,200), Houston Texans ($623,456), Arizona Cardinals ($337,096), Washington Redskins ($323,000), and New York Jets ($261,403) organizations were the NFL's top five political contributors since 1990, the center reported. Four of those teams donated 90 percent or more of their contributions to GOP interests. For the one that didn't, the Redskins, the figure was 75 percent.

Among the owners, the pattern is even more pronounced. Nearly every dime of the $2 million that Chargers owner Alex Spanos - the league's most deep-pocketed contributor - has donated over two decades has gone to the GOP. Texans owner Robert McNair, who has given more than $500,000 since 1990, has contributed almost exclusively to Republicans.

Daniel Snyder (Washington Redskins) and Tom Benson (New Orleans Saints) also are big-time GOP donors. And Robert Johnson, owner of the Jets, raised thousands of dollars for George W. Bush's presidential campaigns.

Interestingly, while the NFL owners have overwhelmingly supported the GOP, there has been a consistent outlier - the same St. Louis Rams that Limbaugh sought to own. No team has donated more to Democratic candidates and causes over the last two decades than the Rams.

Officials associated with the team gave $230,050 to D's - 98 percent of team-associated political giving. (The Los Angeles Rams contributed an additional $47,250 - 90 percent of their total donations - to Democrats before leaving the City of Angels in 1995.)

Current Rams majority owner Chip Rosenbloom has given $13,100 to Democratic candidates over the last decade. His mother, Georgia Frontiere, who owned the team after her husband's death in 1979, donated more than $134,000 to Democratic interests between 1997 and her death in 2008.

There have been a few exceptions. Rosenbloom and his mother each logged a contribution to one Republican presidential candidate during the 2008 cycle - the most moderate in the field. Rosenbloom donated $1,000 to Rudy Giuliani in June 2007. Three months earlier, his mother had given $2,300 to John McCain. Neither candidate was high on Limbaugh's presidential wish list.

One wonders if NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell's negative assessment of Limbaugh's bid ("I would not want to see those comments coming from people who are in a responsible position in the NFL - absolutely not") were predicated on knowledge that his role would ultimately not sit well with Rosenbloom. The NFL itself has had to hedge the bets of its GOP-dominated owners.

"The National Football League - we're talking people who work for the league, who are league leaders, all the way up to the commissioner - the National Football League itself has actually donated more to Democrats than to Republicans," CRP's Dave Levinthal, who wrote the analysis, told me. "It's about a 70/30 split."

Only one owner was prepared to say he would not support the inclusion of Limbaugh. But given that Goodell is their hire, common sense dictates he would not have voiced negativity unless more than one held that view. Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay said he wouldn't vote for Limbaugh because of the host's "inappropriate, incendiary, and insensitive" commentary.

But it was the owner of a basketball franchise who came closest to explaining why the Limbaugh role failed. Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban, whom the NBA has fined almost $2 million for his own verbal and behavioral incidents, blogged that the NFL should be "terrified" not of things Limbaugh has already said, but of "what he might say AFTER he was an approved investor in the St. Louis Rams."

"Given that we will never know what the 'next big issue' in this world that Rush will be discussing on his show is, it's impossible for the NFL to even try to predict or gauge the impact on the NFL's business if something controversial, or even worse yet, something nationally polarizing happens. There is an unquantifiable risk that comes with the size of Rush's audience," Cuban wrote on his blog.

He's right. The substance of the most widely cited Rush-isms - the infamous McNabb quote and his comparison of the NFL to "a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons" - fails to demonstrate any overt racism. And it's doubtful that any of his political leanings would alienate this crowd, given how they themselves have donated.

Instead, the owners determined that it was just bad business to add to their ranks someone who would have kept them in headlines going forward while most choose to fly beneath the radar.

"This is about the future of the United States of America and what kind of country we're going to have," Limbaugh said last week, casting the debate as some kind of a referendum on capitalism. But he was wrong.

To the contrary, Limbaugh was compromised by the very principles he espouses - the free market. A group of like-minded private businessmen, unfettered by government, made a decision as to what was best for their enterprise.
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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

Originally Posted by kvrdave View Post
You are just making it obvious that you have little grasp on what socialism is. Stop now, for your own sake.
if anyone doesn't have a grasp on socialism, it is you.
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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

Originally Posted by Bandoman View Post
The decision to boot Rush from the team of buyers was made by Republicans, not left-wing loonies.

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But they did it because of all the whining from the left. And the whining was pretty sad. A lot of it was just lies. And ESPN and Fox should have did their commentators a favor and told them to shut up and stick to sports because they made themselves look like bafoons by their comments on the subject.
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if anyone doesn't have a grasp on socialism, it is you.
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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

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if anyone doesn't have a grasp on socialism, it is you.
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Nu uh, it's you! Triple stamp!
I figured I'd stick to your tactic for argument. it's good you recognize it.
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But they did it because of all the whining from the left.
Ha, right.
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The decision to boot Rush from the team of buyers was made by Republicans, not left-wing loonies.

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Shut up! It's the liberals, damn it. The LIBERALS! Facts be damned!
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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

I've said from the begining that I don't care if the NFL doesn't want Rush. I can see where it would be a headache for them. But this is, in fact, a typical liberal play. Just like Jesse Jackson extorting money out of Toyota and other companies, this is the liberal MO. Go and cry and whine, and if you have to actually lie and attribute lies to someone for the greater good, then their conscience is clear because they have done what is right in their mind. The damage they do to others is justifiable.

In the meantime, they will be on the lookout for anything they can twist to be racist against their enemies. And if they don't figure out how to do that for a few day, that's fine, because they can be outraged days after they weren't and the liberal frenzy will eat it up.
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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

Originally Posted by kvrdave View Post
this is the liberal MO. Go and cry and whine, and if you have to actually lie and attribute lies to someone for the greater good, then their conscience is clear because they have done what is right in their mind.
Wait, I'm confused. I thought Rush Limbaugh wasn't a liberal.
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Originally Posted by kvrdave View Post
this is the liberal MO. Go and cry and whine
Wait, I thought that was Glen Beck's MO?

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Re: Did Rush Limbaugh just blame Obama for his failure to buy the Rams?

Because the right doesn't cry and whine and lie to get their way?

Gays will rape your children?
The whole fabric of society will crumble?
Teaching abstinence works?

If the republican owners caved due to people whining, than they got what they deserve. They have given the "whiners" their power. Just the same way that kicking Imus and O&A off of terrestrial radio after "complaints" continue to give people like Sharpton and the Catholic league their power. Now terrestrial radio is in shambles with a bunch of stale "zoo" crews and the same cookie cutter format throughout.

As I said, 99.9% of corporations only care about the bottom line when it comes to matters like these, which you may argue is their job, but then you can't really complain when decisions like these get made. You're asking people who don't like the guy not to whine? Why not ask the owners to not be such little bitches, man up, and take the guy's money. Let's not absolve either side here.

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