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Old 09-19-09, 12:25 PM
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Rick Sanchez delivers new salvo in the war between the "news" networks

Did not see this posted elsewhere so here it is. I believe this is from yesterday.



A fairly high-rez photo of the offending Fox ad in the Post can be found here.
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Old 09-19-09, 12:33 PM
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Re: Rick Sanchez delivers new salvo in the war between the "news" networks

It seems they've recently rebranded this fool as their answer to Hannity, Beck, or most anybody on MSNBC. I've wondered why Sanchez is even on TV in the first place.
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I like him. He really does appear foolish. And now we get to hear liberals say that CNN isn't biased and that we need to know the difference between editorial segments, etc. And those don't apply to Fox News.

If this is the best they could find, great. Olbermann is less of a moran.
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Re: Rick Sanchez delivers new salvo in the war between the "news" networks

Why yes, who could possibly accuse CNN of not covering the tea parties and related protests in an unbiased, accurate manner? Of course, CNN isn't out to take sides, they're only interested in objectively reporting the news:

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Re: Rick Sanchez delivers new salvo in the war between the "news" networks

Originally Posted by jfoobar View Post
A fairly high-rez photo of the offending Fox ad in the Post can be found here.
How did all those stations miss that story? Probably the same way Fox News missed the story of Cheney shooting a man with a hunting rifle.
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Re: Rick Sanchez delivers new salvo in the war between the "news" networks

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Why yes, who could possibly accuse CNN of not covering the tea parties and related protests in an unbiased, accurate manner? Of course, CNN isn't out to take sides, they're only interested in objectively reporting the news:

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The horror, people disagreeing with a reporter. Are they crazy? I mean its CNN, they just excrete love and tolerance.
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Why yes, who could possibly accuse CNN of not covering the tea parties and related protests in an unbiased, accurate manner? Of course, CNN isn't out to take sides, they're only interested in objectively reporting the news:

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dont forget the video that was shot after that bitch reporter finished her report:

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dont forget the video that was shot after that bitch reporter finished her report:

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Very troubling video. Any reporter who focuses on the crazies holding signs comparing the President to Hitler instead of the reasonable people like that lady who was shouting at her in the video is a **** whore who deserves to be raped to death. Why does the video producer settle for calling her a bitch?
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It seems they've recently rebranded this fool as their answer to Hannity, Beck, or most anybody on MSNBC. I've wondered why Sanchez is even on TV in the first place.
Yup, and so another prominent (or at least heavily hyped) "news" personality will shout from the rafters with their multi-million dollar television bullhorn. Another loud, obnoxious voice will add itself to the din that is "television news."

Who wins? No one. Who loses? The news consumer, the person who just wants to turn on the fucking television and find out what is going on in the world without having to listen to the astoundingly slanted and heavily prepared and manicured views of a Lou Dobbs or a Glenn Beck or a Rachel Maddow or whatever.
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Who wins? No one. Who loses? The news consumer, the person who just wants to turn on the fucking television and find out what is going on in the world without having to listen to the astoundingly slanted and heavily prepared and manicured views of a Lou Dobbs or a Glenn Beck or a Rachel Maddow or whatever.
And that's why I like to get my news from this chick





and last one...



I am transfixed by her
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That particular CNN reporter is clearly agenda-based, no question about it, and she should be given a talking-to unless they want to promote her as an editorialist and not a news reporter. Her questions would have been objectively fair had she not been so clearly impassioned and pro-Obama. Is she a counterbalance to the dozens of biased "fair and balanced" Fox reporters? Curious how one never heard the accusation of bias from the right against Fox during the Bush years. The hypocrisy is blinding. The rights to be indignant and to open your belligerent hole only apply when the circumstances are unfavourable to your side. When a government you favour holds power, everyone who opposes it should just be shot or boycotted, or both.

The corn-fed Midwestern hick in the video was literally too much of a cretin to answer the reporter's (admittedly agressive) question about fascism. Probably doesn't know what the word means or who the man (Hitler (crossed with Obama; astoundingly stupid and offensive, even for mindless propaganda)) on his placard is. The woman in the second video (post #7), agree with her or not, was at least capable of a reasonable exchange, and it's a shame she associated herself with the yahoo crowd.
They should demarcate the protest areas. Person with bullhorn: "Okay, all you militant, intellect-deprived überjags with Nazi signs, who don't have a clue and who reflexively froth at the mouth at the sound of "liberal" and "socialism", over here. All of you capable of rational thought and principled, respectful opposition, over here."

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Re: Rick Sanchez delivers new salvo in the war between the "news" networks

I bet Sanchez can play a mean jazz flute.
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Re: Rick Sanchez delivers new salvo in the war between the "news" networks

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Curious how one never heard the accusation of bias from the right against Fox during the Bush years.

I don't have a problem with anyone saying Fox is biased to the right---I think any reasonable person not blinded by partisan politics can come to that conclusion. My problem is with the notion that Fox is so outrageously biased to the right that it's not a credible source of news, while the rest of the mainstream media is either objective or just a tad to the left. That's just not true. Fox's very success is a result of the lack of objectivity and hence perceived lack of credibility of the left-leaning mainstream media. And clearly, the charge that CNN is not properly covering stories is hitting a nerve and starting to be taken seriously by them, hence the video in the original post in this thread.
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I don't have a problem with anyone saying Fox is biased to the right---I think any reasonable person not blinded by partisan politics can come to that conclusion.
But Fox itself claims the contrary. Why doesn't it just come out and be honest, and rebrand itself, admitting to its sympathies? People on the left would at least respect the honesty. It's the charade that's galling.
My sense of the rest of the mainstream American media (from a Canadian perspective; I admittedly don't pay all that much attention to them, other than what I get via our news) is that they are generally middle-of-the-road and objective in terms of the Democrat/Republican divide, but very clearly disposed toward whatever government is in power at the moment. I remember the lack of criticism in the approach to the Iraq invasion. That wasn't left-of-center. No mainstream outlet inside the States covered the dissent to any great degree. Bush had much less media opposition in his eight years than he deserved, although it increased towards the end when it was finally deemed kosher to view him as a lame duck.
And clearly, the charge that CNN is not properly covering stories is hitting a nerve and starting to be taken seriously by them, hence the video in the original post in this thread.
But CNN was clearly covering the protests, so Fox's accusation "hit a nerve" because it was such a flagrant lie.
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Objectivity does not mean treating the claims of every crackpot that comes along with credulity. Giving the back of the hand to Orly Taitz (for example) doesn't mean you're biased in favor of President Obama -- it simply means you're biased in favor of reality.
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I wish no one had ever thought of creating a 24-hour news network.
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I wish no one had ever thought of creating a 24-hour news network.
Despite their 'problems', I'm glad they are in existence.

You get coverage that was not given when the 3 major networks had their news hour. You also get a different perspective than you did from CBS, NBC, & ABC was the only source(s) for broadcast news.
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Despite their 'problems', I'm glad they are in existence.

You get coverage that was not given when the 3 major networks had their news hour. You also get a different perspective than you did from CBS, NBC, & ABC was the only source(s) for broadcast news.
But these networks have a long list of problems that aren't outweighed by their benefits. In my opinion, the only thing they are good for are breaking news events because of their local channel access, but the big networks could always do that too with their affiliates.

I don't think any of them have really added to the public discourse and society in any positive or meaningful way - just look at the topic of this thread.

Let me just add, that this is coming from someone who used to work for one of these nets.

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It seems they've recently rebranded this fool as their answer to Hannity, Beck, or most anybody on MSNBC. I've wondered why Sanchez is even on TV in the first place.
The next election is going to be a Southpark episode. Only several months long. Personally, I'm fortunate to not have cable anymore.
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Rut row. Look at CNN's new promo:



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Re: Rick Sanchez delivers new salvo in the war between the "news" networks

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Rut row. Look at CNN's new promo:



It's like when Pepsi does ads against Coke because they know they are so far behind. It almost plays like an election ad where CNN is trying to get people to like CNN again. Perhaps Dirty Sanchez will deliver the MSNBC crowd to them.
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But Fox itself claims the contrary. Why doesn't it just come out and be honest, and rebrand itself, admitting to its sympathies? People on the left would at least respect the honesty. It's the charade that's galling.
Fine, but my point is that the same could be said of the other networks too, and that's the charade that galls people on the right. Again, to me an objective viewer would conclude that all the networks have a bias, and I would say there is ample specific evedence of that---some in this thread. But I realize it's just about an impossible task to convince the partisans on either side of that, after they've made such a boogeyman out of the network they don't like.
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But Fox itself claims the contrary. Why doesn't it just come out and be honest, and rebrand itself, admitting to its sympathies? People on the left would at least respect the honesty.


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I remember the lack of criticism in the approach to the Iraq invasion. That wasn't left-of-center. No mainstream outlet inside the States covered the dissent to any great degree.
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/30/us...-movement.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/15/politics/15PROT.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/19/national/19PROT.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/06/ar...lysts-for.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/16/in...al/16RALL.html

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It's like when Pepsi does ads against Coke because they know they are so far behind. It almost plays like an election ad where CNN is trying to get people to like CNN again. Perhaps Dirty Sanchez will deliver the MSNBC crowd to them.
Or they could try and court the moderates, play Fox against MSNBC and claim to be the place where people who want unbiased news come. There is or will be a market(ing opportunity) for that.
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Or they could try and court the moderates, play Fox against MSNBC and claim to be the place where people who want unbiased news come. There is or will be a market(ing opportunity) for that.
I think they've tried that and it wasn't very successful. The thing about people who don't have strong partisan/ideological loyalties - most of them are that way because they don't know or care much about politics and current events. Not exactly a lucrative demographic for a 24-hour news network.
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