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nemein 09-11-09 06:40 AM

Wilson calls Obama a liar
 
Continued from here http://forum.dvdtalk.com/politics-wo...-part-3-a.html

This thread is for more about the ramifications/fall out from the incident, to distinguish it from the general health care discussion.

Brian Shannon 09-11-09 07:39 AM

Re: Wilson calls Obama a liar
 
He is just another politician, can't believe what he says either.

classicman2 09-11-09 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Shannon (Post 9701339)
He is just another politician, can't believe what he says either.

Wilson or the president?

DeputyDave 09-11-09 09:22 AM

Re: Wilson calls Obama a liar
 
I have less respect for Wilson now that he’s apologized.

nemein 09-11-09 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman2 (Post 9701420)
Wilson or the president?

Yes

classicman2 09-11-09 09:48 AM

Re: Wilson calls Obama a liar
 

Originally Posted by DeputyDave (Post 9701441)
I have less respect for Wilson now that heís apologized.

Why?

Brack 09-11-09 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DeputyDave (Post 9701441)
I have less respect for Wilson now that heís apologized.

He never really apologized, so don't worry.

classicman2 09-11-09 09:57 AM

Re: Wilson calls Obama a liar
 
What would you call the conservation he had with the WH Chief of Staff?

The WH seemed to view it as an apology.

CharlieK 09-11-09 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman2 (Post 9701500)
Why?

For the same reason Rove & Co. laughed on Fox when Wilson had his outburst. Same mindset.

classicman2 09-11-09 10:04 AM

Re: Wilson calls Obama a liar
 
I certainly didn't approve of what he did, but it's not the first time (nor will it be the last) that someone pulled this kind of stunt in the House Chamber.

Let's not not get all excited about what really amounts to very very little. Instead, concentrate on what the president said (and what he didn't say) and see where the debate goes from here.

Brack 09-11-09 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman2 (Post 9701517)
What would you call the conservation he had with the WH Chief of Staff?

The WH seemed to view it as an apology.

He said he was sorry he got emotional. Does that mean he's sorry for what he said? Not really.

classicman2 09-11-09 10:18 AM

Re: Wilson calls Obama a liar
 
He'd be a liar & a hypocrite if he said he was sorry for what he said.

The president did tell a couple of whoppers during the speech. ;)

Ky-Fi 09-11-09 10:34 AM

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I heard an interesting comparison of this incident to what goes on in Parliament in the UK. You can't be too much of a wuss when you're giving a speech to that body, because a good deal of heckling is allowed. Although, they said it's not permitted there to heckle with the word "lie" or "liar". :shrug:

DeputyDave 09-11-09 10:38 AM

Re: Wilson calls Obama a liar
 

Originally Posted by classicman2 (Post 9701500)
Why?

I just think he should have had the balls to stick by what he said. I'm not saying I agree with heckling the president but if you do it, be a man about it. I donít think any of the Democratic congressmen or senators apologized to Bush for heckling him.

JasonF 09-11-09 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ky-Fi (Post 9701616)
I heard an interesting comparison of this incident to what goes on in Parliament in the UK. You can't be too much of a wuss when you're giving a speech to that body, because a good deal of heckling is allowed. Although, they said it's not permitted there to heckle with the word "lie" or "liar". :shrug:

Do you know what else is allowed in the UK? Government-run healthcare.

DeputyDave 09-11-09 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonF (Post 9701643)
Do you know what else is allowed in the UK? Government-run healthcare.

Look how well that's going. They also eat blood pudding and watch cricket, letís not start lauding the British.

Ky-Fi 09-11-09 10:49 AM

Re: Wilson calls Obama a liar
 

Originally Posted by JasonF (Post 9701643)
Do you know what else is allowed in the UK? Government-run healthcare.

I'm not quite following how that's relevent to this thread or my comment.

But anyways, yeah--it must be disappointing to find that Obama is such an opponent of government-run healthcare, and doesn't support a single-payer system. ;)

JasonF 09-11-09 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DeputyDave (Post 9701656)
Look how well that's going. They also eat blood pudding and watch cricket, letís not start lauding the British.

Tell it to Ky-Fi. ;)

Th0r S1mpson 09-11-09 11:08 AM

Re: Wilson calls Obama a liar
 
He has apologized for the outburst, not the content of his outburst.

Psi 09-11-09 11:09 AM

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His Congress web site is still down. I wonder if he'll keep it permanently down. The fundraising one is still up though.

VinVega 09-11-09 11:25 AM

Re: Wilson calls Obama a liar
 

Originally Posted by Brack
He said he was sorry he got emotional. Does that mean he's sorry for what he said? Not really.


Originally Posted by Thor Simpson (Post 9701717)
He has apologized for the outburst, not the content of his outburst.

That's the point. He's entitled to his opinion, he just shouldn't be disrespectful about it on the House floor.

Brack 09-11-09 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by VinVega (Post 9701775)
That's the point. He's entitled to his opinion, he just shouldn't be disrespectful about it on the House floor.

And I'm entitled to believe it's a half apology.

DeputyDave 09-11-09 11:50 AM

Re: Wilson calls Obama a liar
 

Originally Posted by VinVega (Post 9701775)
That's the point. He's entitled to his opinion, he just shouldn't be disrespectful about it on the House floor.

Maybe Obama shouldn't have called conservatives and Republicans liars in his speech then.

kvrdave 09-11-09 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeputyDave (Post 9701876)
Maybe Obama shouldn't have called conservatives and Republicans liars in his speech then.

How dare you!

General Zod 09-11-09 12:09 PM

Re: Wilson calls Obama a liar
 

Originally Posted by DeputyDave (Post 9701876)
Maybe Obama shouldn't have called conservatives and Republicans liars in his speech then.

I'm sure he'll apologize for his teleprompter.

I'm still waiting for an upset staffer to screw Obama over.. Ron Burgundy style.

I should also add that I don't think Wilson should have apologized. He called out the president on a blatant lie. If the president wants respect he shouldn't lie.


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