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Old 09-10-09, 08:23 AM
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A strange question about presidents and VP

Here's a strange thought that just crossed my mind..can a man who has been president of the United States for two terms, later become Vice President under a different person who has been elected President?
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Old 09-10-09, 08:24 AM
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Re: A strange question about presidents and VP

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Here's a strange thought that just crossed my mind..can a man who has been president of the United States for two terms, later become Vice President under a different person who has been elected President?
No. The qualifications for the office of vice-president are the same as for the office of president, and one of those is that you can't have served two terms as president.
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Old 09-10-09, 08:30 AM
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Re: A strange question about presidents and VP

I'm not a Constitutional scholar but I don't believe they can. Amendment 12 includes the language

"But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

Since that person would no longer be able to serve as President (aka they already had their full time in office) they shouldn't be allowed.
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Re: A strange question about presidents and VP

Just another one of the bad Constitutional Amendments that have been passed.

We don't get it right all the time.
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Just another one of the bad Constitutional Amendments that have been passed.
Why?
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Re: A strange question about presidents and VP

We had a long discussion about this last year when it was speculated that Hilary Clinton would choose Bill as her running mate, but I can't find the thread. Short answer is "No."
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Re: A strange question about presidents and VP

Not the same thread Groucho mentioned but similar.
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Re: A strange question about presidents and VP

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Why?
Why? Shouldn't the people have the right to vote for who they want to - as many times as they want to?

I forgot. You're probaly in favor of term limits.
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Why? Shouldn't the people have the right to vote for who they want to - as many times as they want to?

I forgot. You're probaly in favor of term limits.
Actually I don't, I think the end result of congressional term limits would be to shift more power to unelected/special interests/lobbiest. For the President I don't think it's such a bad thing though.

You didn't explain your opposition to the amendment (which I'm not really surprised given the general lack of info you give on any of your statements ) so I thought I would ask to see if you would explain. I see you still haven't really though considering your comment above is more about the 22nd Amendment (which sets up term limits for the President)

What's strange, looking through the 12th Amendment, we really should be voting on President and VP as two distinct votes instead of as a "ticket".

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Re: A strange question about presidents and VP

No, but a two-full-term president could, in theory, be appointed to the office of Vice President to finish out a less than two year term of a VP who died, resigned, or was removed from office.

I believe that a President may serve up to ten years... so if Bush had died or been removed from office in 2007, then Cheney could finish out his term, be elected president in 2008, and then re-elected in 2012.
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Re: A strange question about presidents and VP

Half a term or more counts as a full term, IIRC.

I'm for term limits for congresscritters. I don't really see how term limits would make them *more* susceptible to lobbyists and special interests, and at the very least, the damage they could do would be limited in time (if not scope).
If someone's out due to term limits, I don't think I have a problem with him rerunning again after a term has passed, if he can sell himself back to the public.

The ticket system definitely is odd and not really in line with the original intent of the balloting procedure.
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Re: A strange question about presidents and VP

I'm for term limits for congresscritters. I don't really see how term limits would make them *more* susceptible to lobbyists and special interests, and at the very least, the damage they could do would be limited in time (if not scope).
My thought is if someone comes in knowing they have a limited amount of time to get a job done and make a name for themselves they are going to be more reliant upon the people around them that know how the system works. Since w/ term limits the turn over rate is going to be higher this "how to get stuff done" knowledge is going to have to come from the outside (aka special interest groups). Not sure if this would really be the case but it does seem plausible.



If someone's out due to term limits, I don't think I have a problem with him rerunning again after a term has passed, if he can sell himself back to the public.
I suspect all that will do is a create a "tag team" situation, where one person is elected and hires a second as their "chief of staff" (or some such title) and then during the next election they just swap positions. If you think term limits are good for a reason you should just stick w/ that opinion and once the person hits the limit they are out.

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