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The 2008 U.S. Presidential election "debate" thread

Old 09-26-08, 10:02 AM
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The 2008 U.S. Presidential election "debate" thread

In case there is a debate, let's discuss it here, OK?

The time: 26 September 2008 - 2100 EDT
The place: Gertrude C. Ford Center in Oxford, Mississippi, on the campus of the University of Mississippi
The moderator: Jim Lehrer (PBS)

http://www.olemiss.edu/debate/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._debates,_2008

And I thought I'd throw this in:

Originally Posted by Bob Dylan
Oxford Town, Oxford Town
Ev'rybody's got their heads bowed down
The sun don't shine above the ground
Ain't a-goin' down to Oxford Town

He went down to Oxford Town
Guns and clubs followed him down
All because his face was brown
Better get away from Oxford Town

Oxford Town around the bend
He come in to the door, he couldn't get in
All because of the color of his skin
What do you think about that, my frien'?

Me and my gal, my gal's son
We got met with a tear gas bomb
I don't even know why we come
Goin' back where we come from

Oxford Town in the afternoon
Ev'rybody singin' a sorrowful tune
Two men died 'neath the Mississippi moon
Somebody better investigate soon

Oxford Town, Oxford Town
Ev'rybody's got their heads bowed down
The sun don't shine above the ground
Ain't a-goin' down to Oxford Town
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Old 09-26-08, 10:10 AM
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Thread title is wrong. A certain word needs to be in " ".

I'm surprised that we haven't heard claims that Obama and McCain are the greatest debaters since Lincoln and Douglas from each of the opposing campaigns yet.
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Old 09-26-08, 10:22 AM
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I'm surprised that we haven't heard claims that Obama and McCain are the greatest debaters since Lincoln and Douglas from each of the opposing campaigns yet.
Well, Brack hasn't seen the thread yet.
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Originally Posted by Rockmjd23 View Post
Well, Brack hasn't seen the thread yet.

Well I expect our Obama fans in the forum to think that about Obama.

I'm referring to the age-old practice of inflating the debating skills of the opponent to create high expectations of your opponent (and lower expectations for your own guy).
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Old 09-26-08, 10:28 AM
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McCain has now issued a statement that he will attend.
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(Just to make c-man happy and "confirm" his suspicions):

Obama is <i>not</i> the greatest debater since Lincoln and Douglas, Clarence Darrow is. Obama is the <i>second</i> greatest.

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wendersfan,

"debate"

Thank you.
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You can't have a thread like this w/o odds:

Analysts at BetUS.com posted the following odds on the upcoming Presidential Debate:

How many times will Barack Obama says "Change"?
None +2000
1 - 5 Times +600
6 - 10 Times -350
11 - 15 Times +200
16 - 20 Times +280
Over 20 Times +250

Who will get the first audible laughter response from the audience?
Barack Obama -120
John McCain -120

Who will speak first?
Barack Obama -120
John McCain -120

Who will request the first topic extension?
Barack Obama -120
John McCain -120

How many times will Barack Obama says "Hope"?
Over 9 -130
Under 9 -110

How many questions will Barack Obama be asked before he calls John McCain out of touch?
Over 3 -120
Under 3 -120

How many times will John McCain say POW?
Over 4 -130
Under 4 -110

Will a "Yes we can" chant break out during the debate?
Yes -200
No +150

How many times will a "Yes we can" chant break out during the debate?
Over 2 -130
Under 2 -110

Will Bill Ayres name be mentioned during the debate?
Yes +200
No -300

Will John McCain be asked how many houses he owns during the debate?
Yes +120
No -160

Will John McCain remember how many houses he owns if asked during the debate?
Yes -400
No +300

How many times will John McCain say "My Friends"?
Over 3 -120
Under 3 -120

Who will be the first candidate to refer to themselves as the candidate of change?
Barack Obama -140
John McCain Even

Who will be the first candidate to mention 9/11?
Barack Obama +110
John McCain -150

Who will be the first candidate to mention Osama Bin Laden?
Barack Obama +150
John McCain -200

How many times will the candidates begin a response with "That's a great question"?
Over 4 -120
Under 4 -120

How many times will McCain mention Bush?
None +200
1 - 5 Times -150
6 - 10 Times +300
11 - 15 Times +900
16 - 20 Times +1800
Over 20 Times +2200
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Originally Posted by wendersfan View Post

The time: 26 September 2008 - 2100 EDT
What are we, in the military?

That's 6 pm, Pacific for us normal folk...
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Originally Posted by wendersfan View Post
(Just to make c-man happy and "confirm" his suspicions):

Obama is <i>not</i> the greatest debater since Lincoln and Douglas, Clarence Darrow is. Obama is the <i>second</i> greatest.

I was going to say William Jennings Bryan.
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I can't stand that am/pm crap.
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Originally Posted by classicman2 View Post
I was going to say William Jennings Bryan.
I knew you would. That's why I said Darrow.
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Just heard on the radio that McCain will be there!
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So if an agreement is not reached on the bailout does his attending make McCain appear weak?

After all he said he wouldn’t and then backed down once Obama said he would be going even if McCain didn’t show up.
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CNBC confirmed that mccain will debate as well. anyone want to bet that bush kicked him out of DC so that negotiations can go on?
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What percentage of the voters do you believe these 'debates' are aimed at?

Do you believe, unless there's a major gaffe made, that it will influence the 'percentage' that it's aimed at?
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The HS football moms won't be watching - that's for sure.
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Originally Posted by classicman2 View Post
What percentage of the voters do you believe these 'debates' are aimed at?

Do you believe, unless there's a major gaffe made, that it will influence the 'percentage' that it's aimed at?
I agree with you. The debates are media events and unless there is a major gaffe there won't be any change in opinion.
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Friday night is the best night to reach young voters!
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Haven't young voters already made up their minds?

I thought they were firmly in the Obama camp.
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Originally Posted by Rockmjd23 View Post
Friday night is the best night to reach young voters!

Well, they'll probably be watching. They'll just be stewed by 9 p.m.
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Whether McCain shows or not - I will not be watching.

I believe the last presidential debate I watched was in 1992.
Those actually had some interest.
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you can't have a thread like this w/o odds:

How many times will john mccain say "my friends"?
over 3 -120

under 3 -120
best bet ever.
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