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Old 09-10-08, 05:28 PM
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The Joe Biden VP nominee thread ("international crisis" merged)

Joe Biden has his Tuzla moment:

Biden isn't afraid of Palin
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September 10, 2008

BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Political Reporter [email protected]

Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden assured a crowd of donors in Lincoln Park Tuesday night that he would handle himself just fine in his debate with Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

Democratic Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm has even agreed to spend several days with him as Palin's stand-in for him to practice, he said. But he said "we'll see" whether he takes her up on her offer.

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Democratic vice presidential nominee Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) speaks to supporters at Mehlville High School in St. Louis, Mo., Tuesday.
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He's not aiming to take any cheap shots, he said.

"Folks, look, I know what she's going to try to do: she's going to try to make it as personal as she can. She's going to take a lot of straight lefts and jabs at me. She's going to try to get me to respond. She's going to try to get me to respond in a personal way," Biden said. "That's not my style. I'm not going to do it."

Biden told the heavy-hitter donors in backyards of Barbara Goodman Manilow and Steve Koch that he doesn't care about the passing controversies like whether Palin sold her predecessor's plane or not or whether or when she supported or opposed the "Bridge to Nowhere" in Alaska.

"What I care about is: What in God's name is she going to do -- along with John McCain -- about the thousands of people who don't have health care?" Biden asked. He'll ask her about "The superhighway of terror between Pakistan and Afghanistan where my helicopter was forced down...John McCain wants to know where Bin Ladin and the gates of Hell are? I can tell him where. That's where Al Quaida is. That's where Bin Ladin is. It's not in the country of Iraq."

Four of the six questions Biden fielded Tuesday night were from donors worried about Palin's popularity which has boosted the Republican ticket's poll numbers over the Democrats. Biden urged the donors to "have patience" and Palin's balloon would return to Earth once he or the press forced her to talk about who she would appoint to the Supreme Court or her views on global warming. He told them not to worry about a poll that showed white women defecting from Barack Obama to John McCain because of Palin.

"The press is exaggerating how white women are all of a sudden for Sarah Palin," Biden said. "We still have more women voting for Barack Obama than for John McCain...Part of the problem is in white suburbia, as well as...among ethnic groups, among, particularly Jews and Catholics, there is a lack of ease about Barack. They don't know him. One of my major jobs is to go out and talk about what I know -- they know me -- talk about who I am, why I support Barack."

Part of Biden's job Tuesday night was to make nice to the campaign's most generous donors, who they now have to convince to give just as much for the general election as they did for the primary.

"We're like poor relatives," Biden conceded. "We keep showing up."

Introducing Biden, John Levi thanked Biden for confirming his father, Edward Levi as former President Gerald Ford's Attorney General early in Biden's long senate career. Then, Levi added, speaking to the donors: "For the past 20 months, many of you have been digging in your wallets far deeper than you expected ... and now you're going to do it again, we need your help now more than ever."

Manilow said she saw the candidates‚ choice of vice-presidents as metaphors for their style.

"One took his time, picked someone he knew, whose ideology he respected...someone who is a great statesman," Manilow said. "The other chose someone he had met once for political gain."

Biden defended Palin against commentators who made an issue of her daughter's pregnancy and who argued that she should stay home with her children instead of running for vice-president.

"All it did was generate overwhelming sympathy (for Palin) and quite frankly it offended me," that anyone even raised the issues, he said. "Tell that to my wife. Tell that to a modern woman."
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A helicopter with three U.S. senators aboard -- including former Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry of Massachusetts -- has made an emergency landing in Afghanistan, the Associated Press is reporting.

Also on board: two-time Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden of Delaware and Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. We'll provide more details as they become available.

Update at 3:33 p.m. ET: CNN says a Kerry spokesman has told the network that the helicopter landed because of impending bad weather, that none of the three are hurt -- and that all three now are out of Afghanistan.

Update at 3:43 p.m. ET: A Biden spokesperson also is characterizing the landing to CNN as more of an "unscheduled," instead of "emergency," event because of unexpected bad weather.
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No mention of whether or not he had to dodge sniper fire on the "Superhighway of TERROR!" (dun dun DUN!)
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To play devil's advocate, his plane was forced to land in "The Superhighway of Terror" ( ) and he doesn't say that terrorists forced it down. His choice of words seems to imply that though. Whether it was intentional or not, who knows.
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So Biden claims his helicopter was "forced down" by "terrorists". Biden's plane was actually forced to land by bad weather. God makes the weather.

So by the transitive property, Biden thinks God is a terrorist. It's about time he admitted it.
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Cool, a fresh canvas on which to paint upon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superhighway_of_terror
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Cool, a fresh canvas on which to paint upon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superhighway_of_terror

The article has been erased.
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Joe Biden: Seriously, would you vote for a guy who picks me as a running mate?

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The article has been erased.
Because it was poorly written. You can do a better job!
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This article by the OP is extremely biased against Palin. When will the sexist left wing media attack end?!

1) Headline says "Biden isn't afraid of Palin." An impartial news source would say "Biden claims he isn't afraid of Palin." It's pretty obvious that he's terrified.

2) "Palin's popularity which has boosted the Republican ticket's poll numbers over the Democrats." Palin... boosted Republican polls? No innuendo there!

3) "Biden defended Palin against commentators who made an issue of her daughter's pregnancy" As if a woman needs a man to defend her?

I'm outraged. OUTRAGED.
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So by the transitive property, Biden thinks God is a terrorist.
Cross dressing is a personal choice, and I fail to see what it has to do with either God or terrorists.
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One of the reasons I like Biden as VP is because he really didn't want to be VP.
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One of the reasons I like Biden as VP is because he really didn't want to be VP.
Maybe Biden's people have studied the last 3 otter elections.

Next week's campaign poster:

Obama - Biden
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Maybe Biden's people have studied the last 3 otter elections.

Next week's campaign poster:

Obama - Biden
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Biden: Hillary might have been a better pick for VP

Biden says what everyone on the left is thinking:

Biden: Hillary a Better Pick Than Me


September 10, 2008 5:17 PM

ABC News' Matthew Jaffe reports: Sen. Barack Obama's, D-Ill., vice presidential nominee, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., Wednesday said that Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., might have been a better pick for the position than him.

At a rally in Nashua, N.H., a man in the audience told Biden how glad he was that Obama picked him over Hillary, "not because she's a woman, but because, look at the things she did in the past."

"Make no mistake about this," Biden responded. "Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Let’s get that straight. She’s a truly close personal friend, she is qualified to be president of the United States of America, she’s easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America, and quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me. But she’s first rate, I mean that sincerely, she’s first rate, so let’s get that straight."

Spokesman Ben Porritt offered this response from the McCain camp: "Barack Obama’s most important decision of this election, and Biden -- the candidate he selects -- suggests, himself, that he wasn’t the right man for the job, and that Hillary Clinton would have been a better choice. Biden certainly has a credible viewpoint on this."



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I am loving Joe Biden even more than I thought I was going to. It seems like every other day he's either goofing up or doing something to flat out hurt his ticket.

His saying that, especially the last part where he says she might have been a better pick, can then reflect on Obama. Many people say the first presidential decision is the VP pick, and Biden's words, even if he's just goofing around, can be twisted around for people to now say that Obama failed at his very first presidential decision by picking Biden, and Biden even says so himself. On the other hand you have tons of people excited about Palin being McCain's pick, and what a great job he did on his first presidential decision.

Maybe he'll eventually say that being VP is above his pay grade.

When was the last time a VP was changed like many are thinking could happen here?

For the record, I don't think there's a chance they'll replace him, since that would mean Obama is admitting he did, in fact, make a bad decision.
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I am loving Joe Biden even more than I thought I was going to. It seems like every other day he's either goofing up or doing something to flat out hurt his ticket.

His saying that, especially the last part where he says she might have been a better pick, can then reflect on Obama. Many people say the first presidential decision is the VP pick, and Biden's words, even if he's just goofing around, can be twisted around for people to now say that Obama failed at his very first presidential decision by picking Biden, and Biden even says so himself. On the other hand you have tons of people excited about Palin being McCain's pick, and what a great job he did on his first presidential decision.

Maybe he'll eventually say that being VP is above his pay grade.

When was the last time a VP was changed like many are thinking could happen here?

For the record, I don't think there's a chance they'll replace him, since that would mean Obama is admitting he did, in fact, make a bad decision.
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Biden better watch out if Obama says he's behind him 1000%.
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Biden better watch out if Obama says he's behind him 1000%.
"This is not the Joe Biden I knew when I picked him for Vice President."
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"This is not the Joe Biden I knew when I picked him for Vice President."
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Biden wets his pants everytime he hears the name "Palin". The Messiah iprobably sn't much better.

Rush Limbaugh was praying that Biden would be picked. Bob(0 for 9) Shrum thought it was just another rant by Limbaugh. Glad that Biden is living up to Rush's faith in him.

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Biden wets his pants everytime he hears the name "Palin". The Messiah iprobably sn't much better.

Rush Limbaugh was praying that Biden would be picked. Bob(0 for 9) Shrum thought it was just another rant by Limbaugh. Glad that Biden is living up to Rush's faith in him.
You know, I almost want Obama to win the next two elections just so you have to continue your little charade of calling him the Messiah. It must really steam you up.
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If a VP candidate has to pull an Eagleton this election, it's going to be one that has five letters in his or her last name, but it's not going to start with a B.
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