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Old 08-21-08, 11:47 AM
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So, do you know how many houses you own?

The question isn't whether or not you own a house or how many you own, simply whether or not you know how many houses (if any) that you own. The reason I ask is because i read a recent article where someone didn't know how many houses he owned.
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So where's the article?
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I don't, but if I had to guess it would be 0.
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Originally Posted by FinkPish View Post
So where's the article?
I don't want this to turn into a political discussion(hence not mentioning any specifics in my OP), but here's the link to the article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...politico/12685
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I remember the Democrats were "outraged!!!" that the Republicans would "sink so low" as to focus on this sort of stuff and try to bring down John Kerry (a war hero).

I guess the hand is on the other foot now and it's okie dokie.
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What does this have to do with politics?

btw: You might ask the slum lord, kvrdave, how many houses he owns?
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Originally Posted by General Zod View Post
I remember the Democrats were "outraged!!!" that the Republicans would "sink so low" as to focus on this sort of stuff and try to bring down John Kerry (a war hero).

I guess the hand is on the other foot now and it's okie dokie.
The Republicans keep lowering the bar and the Democrats try to keep up.
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Originally Posted by General Zod View Post
I remember the Democrats were "outraged!!!" that the Republicans would "sink so low" as to focus on this sort of stuff and try to bring down John Kerry (a war hero).

I guess the hand is on the other foot now and it's okie dokie.
I think you're misremebering. Democrats thought Senator Kerry's war record would protect them from charges of being soft on defense, and they were outraged by the specific attacks (personally, I think there's a special place in hell for anyone who wore a purple band-aid to the GOP convention, and I would be equally outraged if anyone tried to argue that Senator McCain didn't serve honorably and courageously). But I don't think I ever heard anyone say that Senator Kerry should be above any criticism.

On the other hand, if you criticize Senator McCain, Bob Scheiffer is right there to sputter and stammer that how dare you question the integrity of a POW.
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The 'He's not like you!' attack just strikes me as absurd from either camp. Of course these people aren't in the average American's shoes. If you're running for president, you're for damn sure not an average American in terms of wealth, education, intelligence, etc.
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How many houses does Obama own?
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How many houses does Obama own?

"Let he who owns the fewest houses cast the first stone."

I don't think Obama is going to want to play the "I'm just a regular guy" game, because he isn't either.
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How many houses does Obama own?

"Let he who owns the fewest houses cast the first stone."

I don't think Obama is going to want to play the "I'm just a regular guy" game, because he isn't either.
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When's the last time the president was a 'regular' guy? They tend to be fabulously wealthy white guys.
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Originally Posted by JasonF View Post
I think you're misremebering. Democrats thought Senator Kerry's war record would protect them from charges of being soft on defense, and they were outraged by the specific attacks (personally, I think there's a special place in hell for anyone who wore a purple band-aid to the GOP convention, and I would be equally outraged if anyone tried to argue that Senator McCain didn't serve honorably and courageously). But I don't think I ever heard anyone say that Senator Kerry should be above any criticism.

On the other hand, if you criticize Senator McCain, Bob Scheiffer is right there to sputter and stammer that how dare you question the integrity of a POW.
for years anyone with military experience was beyond attack on their military experience. it was assumed that no matter what you did in the military it was relevant to being president.

in reality unless you are a 4 star general you don't really have much relevant experience to be president
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When's the last time the president was a 'regular' guy? They tend to be fabulously wealthy white guys.
I think in their own ways, Truman, Johnson, Ford, and Clinton were "regular guys". Of the four, Johnson was the only one who was wealthy when he became president. Truman was the last president to have not graduated from a college or university. Every other president of the past 70+ years was irregular in some major way - Reagan was a former actor, Nixon was socially inept, especially for a politician who achieved massive success, Ike was a career officer who (posthumously) became the second highest ranking soldier in our nation's history (after Pershing), and the rest were born into privilege.
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Rezko ain't going to play. The press is bored with it -- they disected it to death 3 months ago. Plus, Senator McCain talking about Rezko opens the door to talk about Charles Keating. There's no evidence of any wrongdoing involving Senator Obama and Rezko. Can we say the same about Senator McCain and Keating?
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Clinton was mos def a regular dude. Didn't you ever say, "If I was ever the President of the USA, I would get a blowjob in the oval office because I'm the fucking President of the USA.
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I guess the hand is on the other foot now and it's okie dokie.
Um, yeah, that's sorta how politics works.
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Johnson was wealthy because Lady Bird was wealthy.

I don't consider Clinton a regular guy at all. Of course I guess depends on ones definition of 'reguar guy.'

How many of our presidents have actually been in combat - including pilots?
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Originally Posted by OldDude View Post
"Let he who owns the fewest houses cast the first stone."

I don't think Obama is going to want to play the "I'm just a regular guy" game, because he isn't either.
How isn't Obama a "regular" guy? He's only recently wealthy and no where near the mega-rich status of the McCains. He was raised a middle-class kid. What's not regular?
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How many of our presidents have actually been in combat - including pilots?
Roughly half. See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._military_rank
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When was Eisenhower in combat?

Douglas MacArthur speaking of Eisenower: 'He was the best clerk I ever had.'
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I would be equally outraged if anyone tried to argue that Senator McCain didn't serve honorably and courageously
For example, by accusing him of lying about a cross in the dirt.
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