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Old 05-31-08, 03:20 PM
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66-year old serial killer sentenced to life in prison

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=233646

A French court on Wednesday sentenced serial killer Michel Fourniret and his wife to life in prison for the murder of seven girls and young women between 1987 and 2001.

In one of France's most gruesome cases in recent years, the nine-member jury handed down the heaviest sentence under the country's criminal law, life imprisonment without possibility of parole, to 66-year-old Fourniret.

His wife Monique Olivier, 59, described by prosecutors as Fourniret's "bloody muse," was sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum of 28 years without parole for helping lure his victims.

Dubbed the "Ogre of the Ardennes," Fourniret showed no emotion as he stood before the presiding judge who read out the verdict at the end of the two-month trial in the northeast town of Charleville-Mezieres.

Dressed in a pink sweater with white blouse, Olivier listened quietly to the judgement as she stood alongside Fourniret in the courtroom's glass enclosure for defendants.

During the trial, the grey-haired Fourniret admitted to the kidnap, rape and murder of seven girls and young women between 1987 and 2001, at times providing horrific details of the carnage.

Prosecutors argued that Olivier, a former nurse, helped him trap his victims, who were aged between 12 and 22. They were shot, strangled or stabbed to death.

As the verdict was read out, the families of the victims, clutching white roses and pictures of their loved ones, sobbed and hugged, seated in the first row of the public gallery.

"I can breathe again," said Marie-Jeanne Laville, the mother of 17-year-old Isabelle who was kidnapped on her way home from school in 1987, raped and killed.

Laville said she was "very satisfied" with the verdict.

"We will now try to return to a nearly normal life," said Jean-Pierre Leroy, whose 20-year-old daughter Fabienne was nabbed from a supermarket car park in 1988 and killed by a shotgun wound to the chest.

Fourniret's lawyer has said his client would not appeal the decision.

Olivier, charged in the murder of one of the young women and complicity in several others, was finally convicted of complicity in four murders and in one rape. Her lawyer said she may appeal.

During the trial, the jury heard Fourniret, a former machine operator, admit that he had a sexual obsession with virgins and describe being in an "altered state" when killing his victims.

"I remain an extremely dangerous individual," he acknowledged.

Lawyers for Olivier sought to portray their client as the terrorised wife of a domineering and violent husband.

But state prosecutor Xavier Lenoir described her as a willing accomplice, saying she displayed a "deafening silence" to the screams of girls being raped by her husband.

Olivier testified that she and Fourniret would reproduce scenes from their crimes during sexual intercourse.

Among the most disturbing accounts, the court heard a coroner provide evidence suggesting Fourniret sexually assaulted a 13-year-old girl after stabbing her to death in 1990.

Describing Fourniret as a "necrophiliac monster," state prosecutor Francis Nachbar had called for a maximum sentence of life in prison for him, with no possibility of parole.

Lawyers for Olivier urged the jury to draw a distinction between her and Fourniret, arguing that she had no criminal record prior to meeting him.

The prosecution had asked for life imprisonment for Olivier, with no possibility of parole for 30 years.

Fourniret met Olivier in the 1980s while he was serving time in jail on sexual assault charges. She responded to an ad he had placed for a pen pal.

Letters seized by investigators showed that Fourniret had made a pact with Olivier that in exchange for the murder of her first husband -- who was never killed -- she would find him virgins to satisfy his obsession.

Olivier denied in court that such a pact ever existed.

The trial also laid bare some of the mistakes by police that allowed Fourniret to elude arrest for years, both in France and across the border in Belgium where he operated.

The couple was finally arrested in 2003 when a Belgian teenage girl managed to escape from Fourniret's vehicle and went to the police.

Fourniret faces charges in three other cases including the 1990 murder of Joanna Parrish, a 20-year-old British woman who worked as a teaching assistant in the central French city of Auxerre.

Her parents Roger Parrish and Pauline Sewell said in a statement: "This is not the final chapter in our quest for justice for Joanna. We must wait to see if Fourniret is to be charged in connection with her death."

And from another article:

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/ne...4-49df65201629

Fourniret faces charges in three other cases including the 1990 murder of Joanna Parrish, a 20-year-old British woman who worked as a teaching assistant in the central French city of Auxerre.
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So, he'll basically do maybe 10 years of prison time before dies and will more than likely be masturbating for those 10 years, reminiscing about the good times he had. Not bad for killing 7 girls and "allegedly" two adult women.

Sometimes executing somebody just on principle would be nice.
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i suspect lead contamination...

he and the wife are innocent victims of lead...
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This thread sucks.

Hey, wait a minute.
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"I remain an extremely dangerous individual," he acknowledged.
How about that for honesty?

A monster indeed.
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei

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So, he'll basically do maybe 10 years of prison time before dies and will more than likely be masturbating for those 10 years, reminiscing about the good times he had. Not bad for killing 7 girls and "allegedly" two adult women.

Sometimes executing somebody just on principle would be nice.
As long as "life in prison" means exactly that, I have no problem with it. Let him die there.
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Maybe some of Fourniret's fellow prisoners won't take too kindly to him. Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty but Jeffrey Dahmer didn't die of natural causes.
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Let him be the bitch for a change.
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Originally Posted by Bandoman
As long as "life in prison" means exactly that, I have no problem with it. Let him die there.
Unfortunately, as is often the case, "life without parole" does not mean life without parole:

It possible to give a reduction of this term for serious signs of social readaptation, past 20 years if the terms is to 30 years and past 30 years if the inmate is under decision that he cannot be paroled.

It equally possible to be freed before this terms for serious health reasons.
Frome the Wikipedia article Life Imprisonment.

It is unlikely that this prisoner will make it the required 30 years.
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Sometimes executing somebody just on principle would be nice.
And a French citizen would reply "Why let him off so easy by killing him? Let him rot in prison for the rest of his life, then let him die."
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The article mentions "Mistakes by police". I've read elsewhere that there is a strong smell of complicity.
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Found it.

At the time, Roger and Pauline didn't know that their daughter's murder was not an isolated case. In fact, there were many unsolved murders and disappearances in the Burgundy region, most of which were grossly mismanaged, completely ignored and even discarded. Many suspected that high-level officials were trying to cover up the fact that Burgundy had an unusually high murder rate for such a tiny province. It was something that could not be hidden for long.

This is a 12 page story.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/s...t/1_index.html
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
And a French citizen would reply "Why let him off so easy by killing him? Let him rot in prison for the rest of his life, then let him die."
Except that in France, "life in prison without the possibility of parole" actually means "for a while, with the likelihood of parole." Words are confusing, and don't mean what they say, or else politicans lie like rugs, one or the other.

I'm sure when capital punishment was abolished, no one explained that life imprisonment didn't REALLY mean "life in prison until you die."
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Except that in France, "life in prison without the possibility of parole" actually means "for a while, with the likelihood of parole." Words are confusing, and don't mean what they say, or else politicans lie like rugs, one or the other.

I'm sure when capital punishment was abolished, no one explained that life imprisonment didn't REALLY mean "life in prison until you die."
And this opinion is based on?

Under this sentence ("perpétuité réelle", i.e. "real" life sentence), there's no way he can get out before having served 30 years, unless it's for serious health reasons or he's dying. Even then, this can (and will) be challenged under the "risk assessment" provision. The likelyhood that he won't get out feet first is close to nil.
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And this opinion is based on?
The Wikipedia article above.

"30 and out" != "life in prison without parole"

(mostly based on a very literal meaning of the word "without")
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At the time, Roger and Pauline didn't know that their daughter's murder was not an isolated case. In fact, there were many unsolved murders and disappearances in the Burgundy region, most of which were grossly mismanaged, completely ignored and even discarded. Many suspected that high-level officials were trying to cover up the fact that Burgundy had an unusually high murder rate for such a tiny province. It was something that could not be hidden for long.
Sounds like the plot to Hot Fuzz.
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Originally Posted by orangecrush18
Sounds like the plot to Hot Fuzz.
Read the article. Police "lost" the case files of over 100 murders. A magistrate admits that the judges in that province would dismiss cases to help out friends. The death of a crucial witness was ruled suicide, when later investigation showed he had shot himself in the head twice.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
And a French citizen would reply "Why let him off so easy by killing him? Let him rot in prison for the rest of his life, then let him die."
God forbid the French take a stand on anything that requires some bloodshed and conviction.
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God forbid the French take a stand on anything that requires some bloodshed and conviction.
China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, the US and Iraq are filled with "bloodshed and conviction".
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Originally Posted by pedagogue
God forbid the French take a stand on anything that requires some bloodshed and conviction.
Ever hear of the guillotine?
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Originally Posted by Nick Danger
Read the article. Police "lost" the case files of over 100 murders. A magistrate admits that the judges in that province would dismiss cases to help out friends. The death of a crucial witness was ruled suicide, when later investigation showed he had shot himself in the head twice.
So we are in agreement that Hot Fuzz is actually based on these events.
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