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Old 05-29-08, 07:24 PM
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Do you listen/read/watch the opinions of the "other side"?

Hey folks

Just wondering if folks listen to the "other side".

As a left-leaning libertarian I detest the Republicans in general these days, but I like to hear the opinions of the reasonable ones.

I find that when NPR isn't on the radio in the car, I turn on the channel that in the last few years became a Fox News Radio station. You know, fair and balanced...with Michael Savage, O'Reilly, Laura Ingram, etc.

Anyway I find that I like to listen to O'Reilly's show. I don't agree with the guy's viewpoints, mainly, but he seems like a fairly reasonable conservative talking head and I like to listen to what he has to say.

In the same respect I'll occasionally read a conservative opinion piece someone posts here and the like.


On the other hand, I was listening to Michael Savage's show one night and he was seriously screaming that all the liberals you see with anti-Iraq war T-shirts are secret child molestors. Seriously, it was sickening.

I also can't stand the rightwinger Fox news station and I avoid them like the plague.


EDIT: I forgot to add conservative/no and liberal/no. D'oh! Maybe someone could edit for me? please?

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Yes. I'm liberal, but will regularly seek out conservative opinion pieces (sometimes, I will admit, just so I can make fun of them). I have also been known to listen to Sean Hannity and Dennis Miller on occasion (though I listen to Rachel Maddow and Stephanie Miller more often).
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I mostly watch either sports or DVDs at home, so I don't watch much of the news channels. I listen to a Boston FM talk station at work. From 9-12 its conservative Michael Graham, from 12-3 it's liberal Braude and centrist/lliberal Eagan, and at 3 it's libertarian Jay Severin. So I generally get a pretty good mix every day. They tend to mix in local issues and controversies along with the big news of the day, and I like that.
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Michael Savage is a cartoon, but he tends to be equally insulting to liberals and conservatives. I think some of his calls are fake also. I swear it sounds like one guy is calling up doing different voices.
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I'm conservative, and old enough to remember when liberals actually said things worth listening to and considering. Unfortunately, those days are long gone.

To be fair, most conservative pundits in this day and age aren't much better.
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I lean pretty far left but enjoy watching/listening to right wing radio and TV from time to time. While I agree with little I hear on those stations, I must admit, they are very entertaining. The only left leaning show that I really enjoy is Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO. Liberal radio is boring to listen to in my opinion.
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Yep. As I said in the other thread, its my favorite way of reaffirming my own political beliefs.
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I consider myself a right-leaning libertarian and I try not to confine myself to hearing just one viewpoint.

I used to regularly watch Bill Maher's show, despite the fact that the panel is stacked so heavily on the left that no real discourse can be made. I got tired of that and Maher's anti-religion crusade (yet I love Penn Jillette...go figure). Now it takes a guest that I'm really interested in to get me to watch it, though the "New Rules" segment is usually pretty funny.

I also catch "The Daily Show" every now and then, but a lot less than I used to. That's mainly because the quality of the correspondents has really gone downhill. "The Colbert Report" is still great, though.

Every week I listen to Slate's Political Gabfest podcast, which leans left. They provide a good analysis on the news. Plus, I like the participants as personalities. I also listen to Slate's daily podcast, which is not always political.

Also, I try to watch the McLaughlin Group every week, but I always get the urge to punch Eleanor Clift in the face. She just seems so smug.

As for cable news channels, I can't really stand to watch the talking head shows. Too many people yelling over each other.
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I'm a left-leaning middle-of-the-road type. I read papers daily (and the weeklies, too), and I watch both national (CNN & Headline News) and local news. I scan other news online (via Mac & cellphone). I get enough opinions from the right just living where I do (Texas), and I get more than enough Fox News for a LIFETIME every time my oil-baron father-in-law visits. But, hey, we very seldom talk politics (thank goodness his daughter, my wife, sees most issues as I do); I let him watch it round-the-clock when he's here, because, well, hey, he's an oil-baron....I'm sure her inheritance will be worth the right-wing-fest on my TV once in a while.
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I'm pretty far to the left, but I do listen to "The John Gibson Show" in the ride home each evening. I agree with nothing, but his buffoonishness is highly entertaining. Then I get home and cleanse myself by watching Countdown with Olbermann. Go figure.
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No need. I know libs better than they know themselves.
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I have no side*, and I consume massive amounts of political information from all points of view, but generally from academics and decision makers who write for <i>Foreign Affairs</i> and publications like it.



* I don't really consider myself a libertarian anymore. I didn't leave the movement, but IMO the movement left me.
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Originally Posted by DJLinus
I consider myself a right-leaning libertarian and I try not to confine myself to hearing just one viewpoint.

I used to regularly watch Bill Maher's show, despite the fact that the panel is stacked so heavily on the left that no real discourse can be made. I got tired of that and Maher's anti-religion crusade (yet I love Penn Jillette...go figure). Now it takes a guest that I'm really interested in to get me to watch it, though the "New Rules" segment is usually pretty funny.
My wife had HBO for a few months so I watched Maher while she had it.

I sympathize with him on religion (agnostic myself with a strong religious upbringing) but I was amused how he ranted against prescription drugs as being poison. He seemed to have such blind beliefs against them for no good reason - IMO it seemed like his own personal religion.
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I see where 'centrist' is left out of the poll. I understand. Centrists are a rare breed on this forum. That's not true with the general population.

I'm interested in what's going on in the legislative branch. I watch CSPAN & CSPAN-2. I read The Hill, & The Congressional Quarterly.

Congressional coverage by the television networks is not very good, and that's being generous to them.
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Like wendersfan, I once 'consumed' lots of written material from numerous sources.

I now find that my time is taken up by the reading of The Bible, Shakespeare, Ernest Hemingway, & The Daily Racing Form.
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I listen to NPR and to Conservative Talk Radio, and I'll watch CNN and FOXNews so I guess I do listen to both sides of the issues. Sometimes both sides get to be a little too much, so I turn them off all together.
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Yes, I am a libertarian and listen to both right wing and left wing talk radio, based on how "entertaining" they are. I find Stephanie Miller and Rush entertaining. I think lefty Ed Schultz and most right wing talk show hosts other than Rush (and local Milwaukee host Mark Belling) are boring.
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I am conservative, but I love listening to all opinions, because I think too many people get wrapped up in watching/listening to people on 'their' side and kinda lose the pulse of what is going on. Perfect example was during the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal many of my conservative friends couldn't understand why Clinton was still in office, and didn't realize that 67% of the people supported him. They were only hearing those 33% who call in Rush Limbaugh all day, and thought EVERYONE was against Clinton.

I love to watch O'Reilly, Chris Matthews, Abrams, and Larry King if he has a good guest, cause it always a soft-ball interview. I also love Bill Maher, even though he is stacking the deck in the last season cause he wants Obama to win so bad, although every show does turn into an anti-religion, Bush is a moron, the war is bad rant. As for talk radio, I am not in my car alot, but I like Bill Bennett, Laura Ingraham, and Michael Smerconish. Rush Limbaugh really annoys me anymore, and I did not like his position of telling Republicans to vote in the Dems primary, as that goes against everything a republican stands for.
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You don't think Chris Matthews wants Obama to win - and I mean, really wants him to win?
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Like wendersfan, I once 'consumed' lots of written material from numerous sources.

I now find that my time is taken up by the reading of The Bible, Shakespeare, Ernest Hemingway, & The Daily Racing Form.
Isn't that a finite, fairly limited amount of material (except for the Racing Form)? Do you just keep reading the others over and over and over?
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It takes a while to turn all those large print pages.
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Isn't that a finite, fairly limited amount of material (except for the Racing Form)? Do you just keep reading the others over and over and over?
It can take a while to pour though the big-print editions of those works
edit: Beat to the punch.

I would probably be more in line with libertarians than conservatives, but the only thing I really listen to is meet the press and this week w/ George. The only columnist I like to read is George Will. I would probably read more liberal columnists if I could find one that writes as well as George Will. Although, I have had an atheist friend point me to a number of interesting pieces on the Huffington Post recently.
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You don't think Chris Matthews wants Obama to win - and I mean, really wants him to win?
Definitely, Matthews has never been a huge fan of the Clintons, even during the Bill Clinton days. He is an old fashioned liberal, and never gravitated to the 'new democrat' triangulation style Clinton did after the '94 elections.
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I have no side*, and I consume massive amounts of political information from all points of view, but generally from academics and decision makers who write for <i>Foreign Affairs</i> and publications like it.
That's a good thing. One might have a politics leaning but thinking of issues in terms of "sides" is exactly what's wrong with the political discourse in America, i.e. it mostly sucks. Of course having "sides" is, by definition, confrontational so as far as the media are concerned, it sells.

Personally, I've come to loathe op-ed pieces. 99% of them are useless. They are fast food for the intellectually lazy and they kill critical thinking.

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I find the opinions of "my side" bad enough as it is, so I don't listen to anyone anymore.
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