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The 2008 Italian election thread

Looks like Uncle Silvio is back in.
<b><a href = "http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL1449363720080414">Italy centre left says has no majority after vote</a></b>

ROME (Reuters) - Italy's centre left came close to conceding defeat in a parliamentary election on Monday after projections from initial results showed conservative leader Silvio Berlusconi was comfortably ahead.

Ermete Realacci, a spokesman for centre-left candidate Walter Veltroni, said he presumed Veltroni had not won a majority of votes.

"We know that (our) political platform presumably does not have a majority in the country," Realacci told private broadcaster Mediaset.
So much for government free from scandal.
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I wonder if this topic will go to 15 threads like the US version?

The amazing thing about Italian politics is how often the same people bounce in and out of the prime ministership. By my count, there have been 9 people since World War II who have served as prime minister more than once. Including Berlusconi -- I think this will be his third time at the post if his party wins.
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Italian governments are like the weather. If you don't like it, just wait 15 minutes.
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Originally Posted by JasonF
I wonder if this topic will go to 15 threads like the US version?
Only if I start a thread for each election they have this year.

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Probably my all-time favorite Onion Stat Shot:

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Looks like teaming up with Mussolini's granddaughter worked for Silvio.
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Good news for any country when leftists lose elections.
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Originally Posted by bhk
Good news for any country when leftists lose elections.


Berlusconi should be in prison, not in office.
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
Looks like Uncle Silvio is back in.

So much for government free from scandal.
What you call scandal, I call European politics.
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Originally Posted by Lemdog
What you call scandal, I call European politics.
I call a prime minister who systematically changes the criminal code so that every crime for which he's currently under indictment has the statute of limitations shortened so he's no longer guilty of them to be the sort of action perpetrated by a Mugabe or Hussein, not a leader of an "advanced" democracy.
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Originally Posted by bhk
Good news for any country when leftists lose elections.

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Originally Posted by JasonF
I wonder if this topic will go to 15 threads like the US version?
Signora Clintonzia just challenged Baracca <B>Hussein</B> Obametti to a bowl-off!
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
Only if I start a thread for each election they have this year.

In all seriousness, I look at some of the open source press coming out of Italy and it's really a wonder anything gets done over there at all. I mean when you have a coalition of 5+ parties across the spectrum - comprising a bare majority - that's an awful lot of folks to pander to if you need to actually pass any legislation.
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Originally Posted by eXcentris
Too stunned by the sadness of another place where socialism was defeated to offer any rational comment besides calling others names?
My condolences to you on your loss.

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Did bhk just say "rational comment"?
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Hopefully this is a trend of old European countries throwing of the shackles of leftist economic policies.
Did bhk just say "rational comment"?
Do you have one or are you going to keep addressing the poster and not the subject?
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Originally Posted by bhk
Hopefully this is a trend of old European countries throwing of the shackles of leftist economic policies.
It's not. It's just more musical chairs.
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Originally Posted by bhk
Do you have one or are you going to keep addressing the poster and not the subject?
The subject is Italian elections/politics. Once you post a "rational comment" on the issue, you can expect to get one in return...
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
It's not. It's just more musical chairs.
Maybe to a degree. But the left lost a crushing defeat this time. And this adds another pro-US govt. country in old Europe to go along with Sarkozy and Merkel.
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Originally Posted by eXcentris
The subject is Italian elections/politics. Once you post a "rational comment" on the issue, you can expect to get one in return...
Mine was a rational comment. I was happy that the leftists had suffered a crushing defeat. It means that things will be better for the Italian people. While I understand your bitterness at people who don't worship socialism, I am glad that they don't.
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Originally Posted by bhk
Mine was a rational comment. I was happy that the leftists had suffered a crushing defeat. It means that things will be better for the Italian people. While I understand your bitterness at people who don't worship socialism, I am glad that they don't.
Translation: I don't know squat about Italian politics but the left lost! Woooo!

This is as rational as it is insightful. Brilliant.
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bhk's going to feel awfully embarassed in July when the Berlusconi government falls.

Then he'll feel vindicated in August when Berlusconi is swept back into power.

Then he'll feel embarassed again later in August when Berlusconi loses power again.

But later that day he'll feel vindicated when Berlusconi regains the government.

Unfortunately, while he's typing a congratulatory post, Berlusconi will lose the Prime Ministership again. The good news is that before eXcentris can make a post pointing this out, Berlusconi will be back in power.
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I am in favor of pizza but opposed to anchovies. This makes it difficult to choose a party that I can fully support.
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Originally Posted by JasonF
bhk's going to feel awfully embarassed in July when the Berlusconi government falls.

Then he'll feel vindicated in August when Berlusconi is swept back into power.

Then he'll feel embarassed again later in August when Berlusconi loses power again.

But later that day he'll feel vindicated when Berlusconi regains the government.

Unfortunately, while he's typing a congratulatory post, Berlusconi will lose the Prime Ministership again. The good news is that before eXcentris can make a post pointing this out, Berlusconi will be back in power.
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Originally Posted by JasonF
bhk's going to feel awfully embarassed in July when the Berlusconi government falls.

Then he'll feel vindicated in August when Berlusconi is swept back into power.
This is almost certainly Silvio's last time as PM. He's 71 and just doesn't have the stamina anymore. His main concern will be getting enough laws changed so that he's shielded from prosecution for the remainder of his life, and to try to insure that his heirs will have the same sort of immunity once he dies.
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