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Old 03-04-08, 03:27 PM
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USS New York christened (contains steel from WTC)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080302/...Amm8xKDmxG2ocA

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AVONDALE, La. - The USS New York, an amphibious assault ship built with scrap steel from the ruins of the World Trade Center, was christened Saturday as a source of strength and inspiration for the nation.

Thousands of people, including friends and families of those who died in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, gathered near the hulking gray ship, trimmed in red, white and blue banners.

The bow stem, which contains 7.5 tons of steel from the site, bore a shield with two gray bars to symbolize the twin towers and a banner over that declaring "Never Forget," a slogan among New Yorkers.

"May God bless this ship and all who sail on her," Dotty England said before smashing a bottle of champagne against it, producing a loud thump to go with the spurting liquid and flying streamers.

Story after story of lives lost in, and touched by, the attacks peppered the ceremony, held under the blazing sun and broadcast on large screens. It all brought back painful memories for New York Police Lt. Matt Murphy. But the reason for his being here, though, was a source of pride, he said.

"I tell you, it's a fantastic day. Sometimes you think you're over something," he said, his eyes welling up as he looked off toward the ship, "and then you realize you're not completely."

Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England, husband to Dotty, told the crowd that ship names provide a legacy, and that for their crews they serve as a source of strength and inspiration.

When the attacks occurred, the ship was planned but had no name. Then-New York Gov. George Pataki asked the Navy to commemorate the disaster by reviving the name New York. That required an exception to Navy policy of assigning state names only to nuclear submarines.

The steel from the towers is now part of the ship that splices through the water, leading the way.

"It resurrects the ashes, so to speak, to do great things for our nation," said Bill Glenn, a spokesman for Northrop Grumman Shipbuilding, the ship builder.

Along with the steel from one of the worst terrorist attacks in the U.S., it also survived one of the nation's worst natural disasters: Hurricane Katrina.

The ship motivated many of the Avondale shipyard workers to return to the job, even though many lost their homes in the 2005 storm.

The billion-dollar, 25,000-ton vessel is 684 feet long, 105 feet wide. It is the fifth in a new class of warship, designed for missions that include special operations against terrorists. It can carry a crew of about 360 sailors and 700 combat-ready Marines to be delivered ashore by helicopters and assault craft.

USS New York's prospective commanding officer is Cmdr. F. Curtis Jones, a native New Yorker. It is to be commissioned, essentially added to the fleet, next year. It could be used as part of peaceful missions or as part of war, said Adm. Gary Roughead, the Navy's chief of operations.

That it could be used in war did not bother Lee Ielpi, president of the September 11th Families' Association, whose son, Jonathan, a firefighter, died in the attacks. The ship won't be used for war "unless you bother us," he said in an interview.

"We're sending a message that we're standing strong," he said, adding: "This ship, as it cuts through the water, is going to send a ripple. That ripple will say, 'We cherish our freedom.'"

Rep. Vito Fossella, R-N.Y., said Sept. 11 was a turning point in the nation, and will never be forgotten because remnants of the disaster are part of the ship.

"If the USS New York has to follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell, PCO Jones and his crew ... have my full support," he said to a standing ovation.
I can understand the sentiment and on one level I think it's interesting/"cool" but I also find it a little creepy... maybe that's just me.
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If this were a movie, I can't imagine how haunted that ship would be.
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I think it's awesome.
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A great example of beating plowshares into swords.
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So, what happends in 40-50 years when the ship is decommissioned? Are we going to sell it at scrap price to the Moroccan navy so they can blow it up in training exercises, or are we going to remove the 9/11 steel to build the Guilliani Memorial?
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So, what happends in 40-50 years when the ship is decommissioned? Are we going to sell it at scrap price to the Moroccan navy so they can blow it up in training exercises, or are we going to remove the 9/11 steel to build the Guilliani Memorial?
they will probably turn it into a museum

and they should have made a guided missle cruiser or a carrier out of it. something cool
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Very cool, I would have loved to sail on her were I still in.
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I would imagine the truth is much different. Like. Getting a really good deal on some steel. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

That required an exception to Navy policy of assigning state names only to nuclear submarines.

Well, we certainly are a nation of exceptions, now aren't we.
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
I would imagine the truth is much different. Like. Getting a really good deal on some steel. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

That required an exception to Navy policy of assigning state names only to nuclear submarines.

Well, we certainly are a nation of exceptions, now aren't we.
when i heard that steel from the WTC was to be used in the USS New York, i thought it was being used in a submarine (SSN or SSBN). SSNs (fast attack submarines) are now named after states (the Virginia class of submarines). they used to be named after cities (the Los Angeles class). SSBN / SSGN submarines (ballistic / guided missile submarines) are named after states (the Ohio class).
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and they should have made a guided missle cruiser or a carrier out of it. something cool
Yeah something that could dish out some payback, I'm not sure how much action a amphibious assault ship is going to see,
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But...but...but....It might make the terrorists mad and want to attack us more....



Seriously, good to see.
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Yeah something that could dish out some payback, I'm not sure how much action a amphibious assault ship is going to see,
Well, if we have to go ashore and engage them in hand-to-hand combat, it's the right ship. Bombing the shit out of them -- call the Air Force.
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
I would imagine the truth is much different. Like. Getting a really good deal on some steel. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

That required an exception to Navy policy of assigning state names only to nuclear submarines.

Well, we certainly are a nation of exceptions, now aren't we.
not the first time

I think they named a submarine after Jimmy Carter
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Originally Posted by al_bundy
not the first time

I think they named a submarine after Jimmy Carter

Yep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter he was on a sub when he was in the Navy so they honored him that way.
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Originally Posted by al_bundy
not the first time

I think they named a submarine after Jimmy Carter
The article said that state names are usually only assigned to submarines, not that submarines are only named after states.

Historically, submarines were named after fish or other sea creatures like Nautilus, Barb, or Thresher. State names were assigned to battleships, but no new battleships have been built since WWII. The entire first class of SSBNs (George Washington class) was named after famous Americans including Thomas Edison.
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I don't have time to look/dig it up now but this morning when I dug up the above info I found several good wikipedia articles on the naming conventions as well as a list of current vessels.
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