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R.I.P. William F. Buckley

Old 02-27-08, 10:30 AM
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R.I.P. William F. Buckley

William F. Buckley Jr. (1925-2008) [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

I’m devastated to report that our dear friend, mentor, leader, and founder William F. Buckley Jr., died overnight in his study in Stamford, Connecticut.

After year of illness, he died while at work; if he had been given a choice on how to depart this world, I suspect that would have been exactly it. At home, still devoted to the war of ideas.

As you might expect, we’ll have much more to say here and in NR in the coming days and weeks and months. For now: Thank you, Bill. God bless you, now with your dear Pat. Our deepest condolences to Christopher and the rest of the Buckley family. And our fervent prayer that we continue to do WFB’s life’s work justice.

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I had one of his word-a-day calendars years ago. Man, it was hard trying to work them into everyday conversation.

I've been meaning to read some of his books (specifically God and Man at Yale) for quite some time now.
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Old 02-27-08, 10:33 AM
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Wow.

I used to read his columns all the time when I was growing up. A giant of 20th century American political thought.

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Old 02-27-08, 11:45 AM
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A huge loss, I really hate to hear this.

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Old 02-27-08, 11:47 AM
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Sad to hear this.

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Old 02-27-08, 11:49 AM
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It's always a tragedy when a life is cut short, irregardless of ideology.

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I recall seeing a clip of when he was on Rowan and Martin's "Laugh In." He said he was grateful for being flown out for the show -- especially since his airplane had two right wings.

Mr. Buckley
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Old 02-27-08, 12:16 PM
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It's always a tragedy when a life is cut short, irregardless of ideology.

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He was 82. How old would he have to be before it is not considered a tragedy?
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Old 02-27-08, 12:18 PM
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I seldom if ever agreed with him, but I always respected him. Godspeed, Mr. Buckley.
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Didn't know of this until reading your post. Time presses on and people I grew up liking hit the exit. Makes me sad.
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Originally Posted by DeltaSigChi4
It's always a tragedy when a life is cut short, irregardless of ideology.

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Yeah who expects to only live to 82?
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Old 02-27-08, 04:38 PM
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Great quote.
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
Great quote.
Sure, it highlights a different side of WFB... but I'm not sure, if I were looking for an epitath, that that would be the one I would choose...

In the time of Obama, maybe this gem:

“Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive.”
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Sure, it highlights a different side of WFB... but I'm not sure, if I were looking for an epitath, that that would be the one I would choose...
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It seems like along time since I have seen him on a politcal talk show or maybe because I dont watch them anymore. I did think he was kind of interesting in his view point when I saw him but kind of a pompas ass at other times.

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Originally Posted by ernestrp
It seems like along time since I have seen him on a politcal talk show or maybe because I dont watch them anymore. I did think he was kind of interesting in his view point when I saw him but kind of a pompas ass at other times.

It's probably a good thing you don't watch them anymore. If you thought Buckley was a pompous ass, you should see the loudmouths who represent the conservative side on most talk shows nowadays.
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Yeah, William F. Buckley was a pompous ass, but at least he dealt with facts. He honestly believed in what he was peddling, as opposed to this new breed of quote-unquote "conservative commentators" (Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, ad nauseum) who are more interested in breeding hate then discussion.
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He was too much a fan of Barry for my tastes.

However - I did enjoy the debates he used to have.

He was smart.
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Originally Posted by NCMojo
Yeah, William F. Buckley was a pompous ass, but at least he dealt with facts. He honestly believed in what he was peddling,
I got that impression too...that he honestly believed in what he was saying.

Originally Posted by NCMojo
...as opposed to this new breed of quote-unquote "conservative commentators" (Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, ad nauseum) who are more interested in breeding hate then discussion.
For some reason they seem like teens who have run of the house for the weekend while mom and dad are away.
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I liked the fact that he forced me to break out a dictionary if I ever came across something he wrote.
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Originally Posted by NCMojo
Yeah, William F. Buckley was a pompous ass, but at least he dealt with facts. He honestly believed in what he was peddling, as opposed to this new breed of quote-unquote "conservative commentators" (Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, ad nauseum) who are more interested in breeding hate then discussion.
Really admired Buckley's ability to state his position eloquently & shared his conservative views on most things. However, he could often come across as a pompous ass...which, by the way, he often used to great effect in debates. His assumed air of superiority drove his opponents crazy & often made them grow shrill, defensive, and off their game.

I understand your (and others') allusions to Limbaugh & Coulter as self-promoting (even "breeding hate", although many times Coulter hits the mark logically...she just does it in a very confrontational way). I don't understand all the hate for Sean Hannity, who (IMHO) keeps a cheerful demeanor which normally shows respect for the opponents' right to speak without shouting over him/her...also a reliance on facts, even if his interpretation doesn't agree with yours. Certainly, his "hate-breeding" can't begin to rise to the level of Al Franken, George Carlin, Bill Mahrer, etc. I would compare him more to Michael Kinsey...more of a provocateur than "hate-monger". I suspect that he gets lumped in with O'Reilly, Limbaugh, and the others because he's highly successful...I mean, does anyone really care what his talk-show 'partner' Alan Colmes really think?
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I understand your (and others') allusions to Limbaugh & Coulter as self-promoting (even "breeding hate", although many times Coulter hits the mark logically...she just does it in a very confrontational way). I don't understand all the hate for Sean Hannity, who (IMHO) keeps a cheerful demeanor which normally shows respect for the opponents' right to speak without shouting over him/her...also a reliance on facts, even if his interpretation doesn't agree with yours. Certainly, his "hate-breeding" can't begin to rise to the level of Al Franken, George Carlin, Bill Mahrer, etc. I would compare him more to Michael Kinsey...more of a provocateur than "hate-monger". I suspect that he gets lumped in with O'Reilly, Limbaugh, and the others because he's highly successful...I mean, does anyone really care what his talk-show 'partner' Alan Colmes really think?
Sorry... you lost me at "Coulter hits the mark logically".
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"I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University."

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So was I alone in thinking that was the oatmeal guy?
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He was 82. How old would he have to be before it is not considered a tragedy?
It's a subjective matter.

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